Xiaomi 12S Ultra in for review
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 08 Jul 2022Patents are not worldwide.
Remember sony phones with fi... morePlenty of Xiaomi phones are exactly the same between it's domestic and international models with only a re-branded name but significant price difference. If the price difference is due to Xiaomi ignoring patents on its domestic model there would be law suits filed against Xiaomi's re-branded international models particularly in the EU where patent laws are arguably the toughest in the world.
So the question still stands, OP claimed price discrepancy between Xiaomi's domestic and international models are due to unpaid patent royalties, so which patents are these?
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
If it is not going to release it outside China yet, why bother reviewing
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- 08 Jul 2022
tommy abc, 07 Jul 2022It's only sold in China, it's meaningless to reviewCompletely agree with you
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- 08 Jul 2022
The biggest advantage I've seen so far are on nighttime shots. This camera handles lights much better than Samsung and Apple. There was some inconsistency though. Ben took a shot of a Pavilion. The lights below the roof bled into the bottom half of the pic so it had a very slight red/brownish overlay.
Another area where this camera consistently impresses are on pic's at their actual size. The image maintains nice clarity. Samsung's pictures look like water paintings when you look at the actual size.
Otherwise, I don't see that much of a separation on the daytime shots and none of these comparisons included the pixel.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 08 Jul 2022Isn't Sony the first one to use the name "Ultra&q... moreO really......I hope that the name would be different among the brands... I do not have any Xiaomi, anyway.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022Zte got blacklisted for while. Same reason. Zte has netwo... moreExcept that Samsung makes the screens and other components used by Apple and others so putting them on the entity list would be harmful to the likes of Apple.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 08 Jul 2022Last topic before they comment about samples https://www.gs... moreFrom what I could tell by looking into the links, 10-bit colour specifically refers to photos saved in the HEIF format, not the sensor's native bit-depth (similar to Oppo's 10-bit Color Engine)
Also, from the GSMArena review that you posted:
"The RAW files are also 12-bit, so you don't need to bother with the gimmicky 10-bit HEIFs if you want maximum post processing headroom."
I guess OnePlus did decide to enable 12-bit readout for RAW capture, after all.
"I do not know if even 989 has all this"
Yeah, Xiaomi disclosed almost no information about this new sensor, apart from its size, resolution, pixel pitch and AF technology. They didn't even say whether this sensor supports all the features that were present on Mi 11 Ultra's GN2 (Staggered HDR, dual native ISO, real-time HDR using dual gain, etc).
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 08 Jul 2022Could you post a link to the source?Last topic before they comment about samples https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_10_pro_review-review-2401p5.php
Scroll down til you see girl wearing huge earring. It says 10-bit. https://www.oneplus.com/10-pro
Imx789 : 52MP 1/1.35" , 16:11 ratio, dual gain ISO, DOL-HDR, 2x2 - OCL , 12-bit ADC
https://androidcommunity.com/oneplus-9-pros-sony-imx789-sensor-explained-20210418/
789 is not the largest quadbayer, but it is indeed the one with more tech. I do not know if even 989 has all this.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
NickValok, 08 Jul 2022As many of you know, China uses other countries' paten... moreA new account created just to spread fake news about the Chinese? You haters really like to lower the already low bar
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 08 Jul 2022The review of 10 Pro mentions the ability of 10-bit only. ... moreCould you post a link to the source?
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- 08 Jul 2022
It's worth noting that the Leica "Authentic" and "Vivid" modes on Xiaomi phones seem to correspond with Leica "Smooth" and "Standard" on Huawei respectively - this means that, despite what their names suggest, you get the more filtered and artistic look on the former (uncorrected vignette, higher contrast, HDR engaging less often) whereas the latter offers more realistic colours and contrast to better represent the reality.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
Nick Tegrataker, 08 Jul 2022OnePlus advertises 12-bit RAW on the product page of the On... moreThe review of 10 Pro mentions the ability of 10-bit only.
It is pwn choice. Like all phones that can shoot 8K but do not offer 4K@120 when they can do it.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Xiaomi knows that they will not sell many $1000+ phone oversea. Even in China, if you buy a $1000+ phone, you will choose apple(or Huawei before), not Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo.
A lot Gsmarean readers in China are expecting the review.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 08 Jul 2022ROFL. Please detail which patents Xiaomi is stealing?
I... morePatents are not worldwide.
Remember sony phones with finger scanner disabled only in USA/Canada?
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
Saw some samples yesterday. Gladly they look to have low levels of sharpening.
Unlike samsung, apple and google that use too much to make texture much better than it is in reality.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Jul 2022
NickValok, 08 Jul 2022As many of you know, China uses other countries' paten... moreROFL. Please detail which patents Xiaomi is stealing?
If all these Chinese companies supposedly were stealing or using patents without permission they would have been sued to death in countries and jurisdictions with strong intellectual/copyright laws.
But please enlighten us on which patents Xiaomi is stealing that makes their phones cheaper?
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- 08 Jul 2022
Maria, 07 Jul 2022I believe this is a "well-done" phone, so it must... moreIsn't Sony the first one to use the name "Ultra" for a phablet device (Xperia Z Ultra)? Also, Xiaomi doesn't show ads in the UI unless you have a lower-end model.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022It does. Because it is also matter of software for that, m... moreOnePlus advertises 12-bit RAW on the product page of the OnePlus 9 Pro, actually. It's really hard to imagine that they do NOT make use of it.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022Xiaomi is not considered spy from China like Huawei is by m... moreXiaomi was once considered to have a connection with the Chinese military and put into a blacklist, but immediately removed after Trump had gone. Says a lot about the validity of the thought processes behind the bans.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022It does. Because it is also matter of software for that, m... moreIt is always faster to read out a sensor in a lower bit depth setting. Xiaomi might have prioritized better performance when shooting in succession over slightly wider dynamic range.