Xiaomi 12S Ultra in for review
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- 08 Jul 2022
NickValok, 08 Jul 2022As many of you know, China uses other countries' paten... moreAny Chinese companies that carry out business outside China would not get away with patent stealing, and that's why Xiaomi and BBK are still selling phones internationally.
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- 08 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 08 Jul 2022Patents cost the same whether it's in China or somewhe... moreAs many of you know, China uses other countries' patents without permission in its own country, which is why Chinese companies' smartphones are especially cheaper in China than in other countries.
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- 08 Jul 2022
i got both xiaomi and poco they are tough but software and price wise they are not as good as samsung
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- Aierlan
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- 08 Jul 2022
Lancewood, 07 Jul 2022Why would they even bother about other markets if they can&... moreThey will likely have no problem satisfying their own domestic market. Xiaomi high end flagships are not massive sellers in China and make up a relatively small proportion of their sales (at least previous models like the mi11 ultra weren't). The only brands to sell huge quantities of high end models in China to date are Apple and Huawei. With the Huawei restriction, most previous consumers of Huawei flagships have moved to Apple rather than android brands and Apple now completely dominate the high end market in China. Sure, the initial demand will be high from fans but there will be no problem being able to buy it after a few weeks. The mi11 ultra for example did not sell particularly well at its full price (it was maintained at full price for about a whole year after launch). However during the recent 618 sale they dropped the official price to 3,399rmb to clear the inventory (original price was 5,999rmb so that was a massive cut). It was one of the leading selling flagships during the 618 sale at 3,399rmb. I suspect sales of the new model might be higher due to the Leica partnership. Maybe this will help change Xiaomi's brand image in China but it will take time for them to build this image and achieve sales similar to Huawei used to. When launching abroad in different markets, they would have to consider the expected volume of sales and the price needed to achieve their required profit margin to decide if its worth launching or not. The international market is less attractive this year as well due to costs increasing as many curriencies have depreciated against the Chinese rmb and with the war in Ukraine inflation is also high resulting in increased costs.
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- 08 Jul 2022
I think this one of the best phone ever made, its a shame only China gets to use it. Congrats xiaomi, you have really outdone yourself.
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- 08 Jul 2022
NickValok, 08 Jul 2022The problem with Xiaomi is that Chinese prices and global p... morePatents cost the same whether it's in China or somewhere else and the patent cost is usually already baked into the component cost when the OEM buys the component.
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- 08 Jul 2022
The problem with Xiaomi is that Chinese prices and global prices are very different due to patent or certification costs. For example, Xiaomi 12 was launched in China for ¥3699, but its global launch price is $749, which is $200 more. If the Xiaomi 12S Ultra were released globally, it would cost over $1400 and people would never buy a Xiaomi with that money.
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- 07 Jul 2022
Calvin62, 07 Jul 2022Why bother when its exclusive for China.I upvoted because I'm unhappy with their choice too but the revew is more than welcome because it seems ti be a photograph beast, let's see if the rest is on par! 😎
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- 0TK
- 07 Jul 2022
I really want to see that! Bravo,!
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- 07 Jul 2022
Imagine if it had xenon...
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 07 Jul 2022
TheLastOracle, 07 Jul 2022Your statement doesn't make any sense. It does. Because it is also matter of software for that, more processing required. All this slows down operations, burn more battery and generates more heat.
In the end, most will be using jpeg, which is 8bit.
Imx789 from OP9 Pro has 12bit ADC as well. OP does not make use of it.
If the imx478 inside Pro-i created in 2019 has 12-ADC, hard to imagine 989 with only 10bit.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 07 Jul 2022
Penk2856, 07 Jul 2022No news about any country removing al their ZTE equipment. ... moreBecause ban was lifted months ago.
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- 07 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022It supports 10-bit, does not mean it cant do 12. Could ha... moreYour statement doesn't make any sense.
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- Nu7
- 07 Jul 2022
Have you 4 once think 🤔 why NAMED 12sULTRA( not 12ULTRA) "not what you might think exactly"
In the first place I've done my research and I see no significant reason, BUT I'm sure those who will fall for the 1" hype will SUFFER poor battery life and software optimization
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- 07 Jul 2022
Anonymous, 07 Jul 2022Zte got blacklisted for while. Same reason. Zte has netwo... moreNo news about any country removing al their ZTE equipment. Also, ZTE still selling 5G smartphones, even in the US
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- Robert
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- 07 Jul 2022
It won't sell outside of China. OK.
I want to know how many years we have to wait, to be able to buy comparable phone here in EU.
Gsmarena, what do you think?
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- Lancewood
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- 07 Jul 2022
Why would they even bother about other markets if they can't even satisfy their own domestic consumption.
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- 07 Jul 2022
Calvin62, 07 Jul 2022Why bother when its exclusive for China.I'm waiting for the review to decide if I'm going to order. I'm in the US and on AT&T. Xiaomi phones are the only phones I can use that aren't part of AT&T's "whitelist" system. I currently have a Xiaomi Mi 9. I skipped over the 11 Ultra, even though the prices are pretty sweet right now because the 12S Ultra has a lot more of the bands I could use. I'm just trying to weigh if it's worth it or not since Giztop put a pretty big margin up.
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- tommy abc
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- 07 Jul 2022
It's only sold in China, it's meaningless to review
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 07 Jul 2022
[deleted post]Zte got blacklisted for while. Same reason.
Zte has network too.
People need to stop using Apple as excuse. Government does not care if iphone is selling well or not. Otherwise, they would get rid of samsung instead.