iPhone 14 Pro Max with A16 chipset appears on Geekbench with minimal performance improvement
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- 08 Sep 2022
DrakeX, 08 Sep 2022Apple probably is hitting a wall right now and they've... moreI hope that‘s an indicator for longer software support. I mean, they won’t be able to drop like the iPhone SE 3 from support when it performs basically the same as the iPhone 14 Pro.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Grey Wolf, 08 Sep 2022Not a surprise. That is why, even in the presentation, they... more„That is why, even in the presentation, they used the A13 as comparison, not the A15, because they wanted the gap on the screen appear larger. Trickery and marketing at its best.“
No they used the A13 because they said it‘s what the competition is currently trying to catch up to
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- 08 Sep 2022
RealLifePhones, 08 Sep 2022density usually brings efficiency and performance gains as ... moreYes, that's why I said "is more about density".
Wikichips have a nice roadmap with performance and energy improvements:
https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/7048/n3e-replaces-n3-comes-in-many-flavors/
And N4 is not better than N5P in those two but in density only IIRC. Unless the node is much better now, or that graph is utterly wrong, I can't see why apple chooses it over N5P.
N4P would solve both problems (density and performance/efficiency regressions) but is out of the question tho, as is expected for next year.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Apple superiority in processing section is near it's end
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- 08 Sep 2022
So this was a small upgrade. As expected. They focused more on the cameras and screen.
Next year will be on refreshed design maybe...
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- 08 Sep 2022
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2022The real word here is heat Iphone 14 will be the best perf... moreSnapdragon 8 Gen 2 will be on the same N4 node and seeing how the 8+ improved over the 8 Gen 1 I would say the race is becoming extremely competitive which is great for consumers on both sides.
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- 08 Sep 2022
dude111, 08 Sep 2022They probably did a bit more and optimized their design as ... moredensity usually brings efficiency and performance gains as these three can't really be separated because the paths are smaller so less energy is needed while the interaction of transistors is faster as the electrons have to "travel" shorter distances (physically not correct but I can't explain how electromagnetism really works here).
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RealLifePhones, 08 Sep 2022A16 seems more and more like a simple node shrink. Frequenc... moreThey probably did a bit more and optimized their design as N4 is not better than the N5P they have been using with the A15 for over a year.
N4 is more about density than performance or efficiency.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Yukvgffh, 08 Sep 2022It's outdated, with the latest genshin update it can&#... moreSuper almighty D8100 that runs this game in quality below 720p?
Should be 60fps@1080p.
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DrakeX, 08 Sep 2022Apple probably is hitting a wall right now and they've... moreThey don't have any incentive to push harder; they have a great core design (both powerful and efficient) that can be squeezed a little bit more while saving money and still being ahead of everyone else in the process.
Like intel in the skylake era.
If the x3 cores are as great as suggested, Apple may jump to ARMv9 and new cores. If not, it will be a 4th year squeezing that design.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Grey Wolf, 08 Sep 2022Lol, SD870 is not an outdated chipset. Is very capable chip... moreThe SD 870 is still good, but it IS definitely outdated. It has A77 big cores. No A78, no X1, no X2, no A710, no A510, no A715, etc. It's TSMC N7P. The only reason the value proposition has changed to good from the usual unnecessary and overpriced SD 800 chips is because the price has come down quite a bit since the original SD 865.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Grey Wolf, 08 Sep 2022Lol, SD870 is not an outdated chipset. Is very capable chip... more870 is old news and not fast enough for a midrange phone anymore.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2022That is why they showcased it against A13 and not against A... morea13 still knocks everything out of the water that Qualcomm has to offer and will still do in 2023.
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RealLifePhones, 08 Sep 2022A16 seems more and more like a simple node shrink. Frequenc... moreThey will still lag , get no decent updates and will need replacing in less than a year.
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Grey Wolf, 08 Sep 2022Lol, SD870 is not an outdated chipset. Is very capable chip... moreIt's outdated, with the latest genshin update it can't play it at smooth 60fps with max settings. It's starting to show it's age, the dimensity 8100 is looking to be it's replacement.
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- 08 Sep 2022
Grey Wolf, 08 Sep 2022Lol, SD870 is not an outdated chipset. Is very capable chip... moreThat's what I mean. 870 has enough power and I don't need anything more powerful. And it's practically the overclocked 865 from 2019. It's almost three years old and still one of the best chipsets you can get. I would not buy phone with 888 or 8 Gen 1, because of the energy (in)efficiency/throttling.
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Mediatek sux, 08 Sep 2022There was a chinese leak about the 8gen2 pro having 5.2k mu... moreSource?
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- 08 Sep 2022
Vonikhsat S Metra, 08 Sep 2022Apple has been competing only with themselves for the past ... moreIt's a minor case, ARM is just sad to let Qualcomm go.
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- 08 Sep 2022
RealLifePhones, 08 Sep 2022A16 seems more and more like a simple node shrink. Frequenc... moreThe real word here is heat
Iphone 14 will be the best performer for a long time because of the n4 and vapor chamber while my samsung and next compact sony Xperia heats like hell, so here apple is not just away in raw performance but also it will gain performance thanks to not heating so much (iphone 14 eligibility )
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- 08 Sep 2022
Apple probably is hitting a wall right now and they've been using the same node for three years now. Good thing is there's not much incentive to upgrade.