Google loses appeal against EU, ordered to pay €4.1 billion fine

14 September 2022
The decision confirms a ruling from 2018 on bundling Android with Chrome and Google Search.

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    Vikass17, 14 Sep 2022It was being developed for cameras before Google baught it ... morethey cannot close it. android simply doesn't belong to google. there are 84 companies contributing to it. just because google puts the largest effort into android so it can sell it as a google product, it doesn't mean that it belongs to google. they have no right to claim it was theirs. if it would be a google product, then no smartphone company would be able to modify it in their own interests. it would be like ios. huawei for example took android and created a new extremely different os that can cope without any google service. did they steal it? no. why doesn't apple get fined for its ios? because it belongs to them. but google gets fined because android is not their product and they misuse it to distribute their own apps and software through it.

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      Baldilocks73, 14 Sep 2022Maybe Google should just stop providing access rights to An... moreAnd lose billions upon billions of income.... smart. EU is one of the larger markets. Anyways, good to hear that someone is finally putting an end to those shady Google practices. If they want to operate in EU they have to change. All that anti-consumer and monopolistic shi*t they do maybe will fly in USA, but not here.

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        • 14 Sep 2022

        everyone is looking for easy money but we are the one end up paying for it as google will raise their price in everything they do

          Anonymous, 14 Sep 2022android isn't google's product. it was and is an ... moreIt was being developed for cameras before Google baught it and iPhone came .
          Google developed it and made it open source.
          And they can make it closed source anytime.
          It's a Google product.

            SShreyas, 14 Sep 2022"They make OS , they have to earn from OS" Absol... moreIt's about using Google services. Android is open source and people use it. Make different versions with Google services. Like Amazon and huawei used Android without Google services.
            Point is Google forces you to use all its services. News is about that. Either you use all services or don't. They don't give middle options.

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              Anonymous, 14 Sep 2022android isn't google's product. it was and is an ... moreWhatever 🙄

                Vikass17, 14 Sep 2022Everything is allowed. i saw my friend's Gionee phone ... more"They make OS , they have to earn from OS"
                Absolutely NO. Android is an open-source OS which means that many developers are adding and maintaining many features for free. Even organisations like Qualcomm, JetBrains, Ittiam, ARM, etc. contribute a lot
                In fact, Google's stock Android is undoubtedly "the most retarded version of Android". Forget custom ROMs (since they are ages ahead), even sking from other manufacturers like OneUI, MIUI, ColorOS, etc. have had many features from ages which isn't even available today with stock Android

                According to your logic, Google should start paying them for the ideas because the profit goes to Google ONLY

                  Maybe Google should just stop providing access rights to Android for European countries who are part of the EU.

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                    • 14 Sep 2022

                    EU has become a regulatory superstate. The EU parliamentarians think regulations make a country or region richer. Each regulation they impose has a cost to society. The Bureaucratic burden has extreme costs which people do not see. Does google publish how much it spends for R&D vs just compliance of various Government and extra Government burdens like ESG reporting and LGBTQ reporting? There was a time when companies used to spend 30% of income on Capex and R&D. These days when you combine both, it is not even 10%. Compliance is the single biggest burden on companies and administrators do not add value to the Economy, in fact they take away value by means of RED TAPE.
                    Can a small EU start up which hopes to be the next google one day, can they afford these compliance burdens? Europe and its woke mob has lost it and America is close to it too. The common man will suffer under the new rule of the Bureaucrats and Technocrats. This is undemocratic, directly elected politicians are not in charge any more , it is the Bureaucrats and Technocrats

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                      Anonymous, 14 Sep 2022Google apps never disturb people as long as they have 256GB... moreMost importantly, back glass change on iPhone should not cost $600 otherwise apple should be fined

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                        Kangal, 14 Sep 2022Apple has a bigger marketshare than Android, when it comes ... moreApple does not have any monopoly, since it is not the only one phone manufacturer in the world. And the fact that Apple was able to develop, maintain and widespread his own operating system is not a monopoly.
                        So, again, a true legal reason for that? Ah, there's none.

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                          That's why now they want to introduce 5 commercials in a row on YouTube.

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                            SShock, 14 Sep 2022Funny, if anything, it should be demanded from Google and a... moreGoogle apps never disturb people as long as they have 256GB of storage and 8GB ram.

                              mugu007, 14 Sep 2022But what about Safari on iOS and Samsung Internet on OneUI ? Every company uses their own browser. We should fine them all.

                                Anonymous, 14 Sep 2022I think if they don't allow other apps on their OS the... moreEverything is allowed. i saw my friend's Gionee phone pre-installed with 3 browsers.
                                This is just bullsh*t. Govt always try to find a way to loot money like robbers. They don't even give warning.Govt is worse than bigger companies.
                                People can use Android with anything ,like many companies, Amazon fire OS , harmony OS and many more.
                                Still govt going after them.
                                They make OS , they have to earn from OS. Nothing is wrong with that. People will say they earn from play Store.
                                But maintaing play Store eats money too. Thats like almost different thing.

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                                  Now Fine Apple.

                                    blue, 14 Sep 2022And for what exactly?Apple has a bigger marketshare than Android, when it comes to first-world nations or in the high-budget segment (above USD $800). Not to mention their alternate revenue streams. They have a lot of control, little-to-no opposition, and don't pay taxes.

                                    They basically have a monopoly. And you have very little freedom.
                                    Android market is less of a monopoly, and you have a lot of freedom.

                                    ...I hope things change but that means less money for Apple, so I doubt it.

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                                      mugu007, 14 Sep 2022But what about Safari on iOS and Samsung Internet on OneUI ? and.. what about uninstall services you don't use on your phone

                                        cyber, 14 Sep 2022android is google,pre installed google apps should be manda... moreFunny, if anything, it should be demanded from Google and all phone vendors that Google's stuff could be disabled or enabled at will without having to flash ROM's on phones. Because you can't buy a phone without Google's crap if you don't want it and if you do remove it, this brings bunch of dumb problems like having to use phone with unlocked bootloader which makes a lot of apps whiny. And I don't think this part has been improved that you can lock bootloader with any phone or ROM after it's flashed.