Weekly poll results: the iPhone 14 Pro duo has its fans, the vanilla pair gets the cold shoulder

18 September 2022
The iPhone 14 and the new iPhone 14 Plus failed to excite potential buyers due to a perceived lack of updates. The Pro and Pro Max fared better (but price is an issue).

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Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022Trying hard, lol, but lemme tell you, Android has like, doz... moreOh yeah, you said it correctly. "Here and there". Some brand has X and some other has Y and third one has Z and hardly any of them has XYZ together. But you all sure love bragging about them by picking all the features from all the different vendors and present is as this "magical Android". Yeah, it doesn't work that way. And when you can't really argument it, point people at XDA, right? The haven of one off ROM's that have all this cool s**t that someone made once and never ever bothered to improve or update afterwards. Boy I've been there and seen that. But again "magical Android yo".

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    SShock, 18 Sep 2022I love it how you intentionally ignore and dismiss all the ... moreyou don't even know about all these extra features present on this phone I'm using right now. And I'm sure iPhone won't get these till 2030, maybe, if u guys are lucky 🙂

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      SShock, 18 Sep 2022So, has your Android from 2018 received OCX of text from an... moreTrying hard, lol, but lemme tell you, Android has like, dozens and dozens of features that way, here and there, not even counting all the customisation options, and even custom android at this point

        Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022Yeah you now have AOD. Before that widgets. Welcome to the ... moreI love it how you intentionally ignore and dismiss all the cool stuff iPhone users got over the years that it's still not a standard across ALL Android phones (I don't care if ONE vendor decided to include it, I'm talking experience that's on ALL Android phones) and then start moaning about the same old themes/fonts/widgets. It's frigging hilarious. I'm pretty sure automagical lifting of objects or OCX of text is billion time more useful than all the dumb themes and icons combined that are all mostly ugly as sin anyway.

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          SShock, 18 Sep 2022So, has your Android from 2018 received OCX of text from an... moreYeah you now have AOD. Before that widgets. Welcome to the "android customization world"
          No more boring iphones i guess. Soon you'll also have edge lighting or notification led around the infamous dynamic island.

            Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022Your iphone will soon get color palletes, font style, theme... moreSo, has your Android from 2018 received OCX of text from any photo or even video? How about lifting of objects or subjects from any photo? My iPhone from 2018 got that. But sure, iPhones totally don't get anything useful or important ever. But you all can't shut up about dumb icon packs and fonts. Because that's so important yo!

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              -Trix-, 18 Sep 2022” but me as an Android user hardly care about those twenty ... moreYour iphone will soon get color palletes, font style, themes and icon packs. iOS 20 maybe. Just wait patiently.

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                -Trix-, 18 Sep 2022” but me as an Android user hardly care about those twenty ... moreNope. It's not like that. For me, it's not a big deal if the company doesn't push as many updates. It's good to get more, but okay to have just a few, for the price I paid. If I bought a flagship then of course I expect at least 4 updates but if not then I'll take 2 or 3. Because Android phones all have many price segments and companies making them, there's always this huge debate of os updates. Old hardware can't handle latest updates and still be smooth, so it's not worth it even if there are many upgrades provided. It's different than what is on iphones, the chipset is flagship, so it can handle that updates. So the simple rule is to expect according to what was paid for. Also, I'd rather let my old dog rest than to make him work to learn new tricks 🙂

                  -Trix-, 18 Sep 2022” but me as an Android user hardly care about those twenty ... moreThey also always complain updates slow down the phones. I can't say I notice any of that. My ancient XR runs iOS 16 really well. It's smooth and new features it brings are super sweet. That lifting of objects and subjects from any image is just so next level and I got it on freaking 4 years old iPhone. Prices of iPhones are absurd in a way, but after I think about it for a bit, they kinda aren't either when you take software support into consideration. Suddenly, they are great value as whole package and observed long term.

                    Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022IDK about others, but me as an Android user hardly care abo... more” but me as an Android user hardly care about those twenty whatever updates you guys get on iPhones. ”

                    Why Android users keep saying this? You don’t care that your phone learns new tricks? I don’t know about you, but for me that’s great support from a company if years later my old dog learns new tricks. I think you just say it because that doesn’t happen much in Android world so you guys are just saying we don’t care, in reality everyone want new features because it makes the old product feel fresh and then you feel like you got even more for your money. This is propably main reason why so few buy Android flagship phones anymore, they had enough with this stuff.

                      Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022IDK about others, but me as an Android user hardly care abo... moreI don't know, I usually compare flagship iPhones with flagship Androids. And even there, software support is still million times better on iPhone. And saying "it doesn't matter" is a bit daft. If I had Android almost of any price from 2018 I could just dream off any cool features like OCX of text in photos and videos. Or just pressing and lifting ANY object or subject from any photo. Yet I got all this on 4 years old iPhone. Or just the fact how most of userbase being on latest API's helps apps being so much better on iOS than they are on Android because there, most users are stuck with some ancient API's that don't support features well. Like all the problems I had with integration of password managers on Android phone where on iPhone, it feels so reliable and consistent like it's part of iOS, but I'm using 3rd party app. Or how Apollo, iOS client for Reddit has text OCX support thanks to latest API's, so I can easily select and copy any text directly from the image in the app. It's all thanks to having latest OS with latest API's that devs can utilize with confidence, knowing large majority of users will be able to use this moment. How many Android phones are still out there that are Android 9 or 10? Tons. You had to basically buy it in last 2 years for it to come preinstalled with Android 11. And most of before mentioned models will never even get Android 12 or 13.That's the main issue. And while I don't care about this part, I've seen horror on Android with Instagram. Relative snapped a photo with camera and it looked great. He snapped it in Instagram and the image looked like vomit. Again, entirely API issue as app can't connect to camera system the way same app can on iPhones. So, yeah, it very much does matter and it matters A LOT.

                        Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022You're forgetting that it's an entirely different... moreSound like you are reaching there. Apple ain’t going to jump into the folding game until they are confident that benefits of the new form factor outweigh the compromises, and that’s not a consideration Samsung made. Even now 4 years later, it would be hard to argue Foldables have more benefits and less compromises than the standard slab design.

                        And like I said before why would Apple look to make massive changes on a yearly basis when clearly the formula they currently have is working. Refinement is the best strategy at the iPhone’s level. The alternative is to release folding bricks with a giant creases down the middle of screens that are far less durable than what was previously offered.

                        I’m not daft enough to either expect or want massive changes year on year, I know incremental improvements are what happens when products reach maturity.

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                          SShock, 18 Sep 2022Android flagship phones cost as much as iPhones. All they d... moreIDK about others, but me as an Android user hardly care about those twenty whatever updates you guys get on iPhones. And it's not me, it's you to be always comparing cheap android phones with iphones and bragging about how apple is so much better. You forget that there's a big price difference between the two

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                            DaFink, 18 Sep 2022Wow, could you have given any more vague a response. All th... moreYou're forgetting that it's an entirely different form, fold vs bar. Apple doesn't even have one yet. The battery increase is on the Flip, and that's not all, even the second display is bigger. These would be quite significant changes in apple world, because their phones change very slowly. iPhone being the same for another year isn't the same as any budget phone doing it

                              Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022Android phone makers don't give a lot of updates, but ... moreAndroid flagship phones cost as much as iPhones. All they do is go all out on specs because that sells and then offer zero support. Or if they do it's just bad and slow. Don't compare 200€ Android phones to 1000€ iPhones. It's about complete package, not just all out specs on paper.

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                                SShock, 18 Sep 2022Expecting users not to stick with phone for longer is like ... moreAndroid phone makers don't give a lot of updates, but they also charge less than what apple does. An average chinese company provides the phone with all the bells and whistles and it still sits a lot lower than any flagship iPhone. At that price, it's not about updates. Buyers don't even care about updates. What they look for is that spec-sheet and figures to boast about. In the end, it's all about what one wants. The long term support and stability of iOS, which costs money, or the quick and cheap fun of Android

                                  Anonymous, 18 Sep 2022There have been be significant improvements from the first ... moreWow, could you have given any more vague a response. All that can also be said about successive iPhones models.

                                  If you look at the fold 1 and then the 4, you see some necessary improvements sure, what choice did they have really considering the original Fold had no business being a consumer device, having all the durability of a plastic spork that it did. Look from the fold 3 to the 4 though and the difference’s are no more or less profound than the 13 pro to the 14 pro as an example.

                                  And bigger battery, are you serious? The original fold had a 4380mAh cell, the fold 4 has 4400mAh….an extra 20mAh, about half a percent difference. Wow, now that is 4 years worth of progress right there 🤦‍♂️

                                  Also I would say not all the ‘improvements’ to the cameras are positive either, I’d take the Standard 10mp selfie camera over the joke that is that 4mp under display thing anyday.

                                    Grey Wolf, 18 Sep 2022Even though the guy you replied to exaggerated a bit, he ha... moreWhy people still keep repeating this lie how Apple's ecosystem is "locked down". Sure, you get more features if you use iPhone, Apple Watch and Macs, but it's absolutely NOT a requirement. As someone who has been using iPhone for 4 years without using 99% of Apple services, I absolutely believe it's not true.

                                    Everything I use and do on my phone is provided by 3rd parties. So, if I use 3rd parties instead of Apple services, you know, how is it "locked down"? It just doesn't compute. And if you're thinking sideloading and custom ROM's, both are highly overrated and overhyped. Tried both and first was usually just excuse for piracy or ridden by fake and questionable apps on 3rd party app stores and ROM's always brought me more problems than benefits. It's why I even went with iPhone after all that mess. I'll rather just have long support instead of deal with all those dumb problems. Hell, it's so good I'm still inclined to go with iPhone when I'll have to upgrade even if Apple just made rubbish iPhone 14 upgrade. Now think how much better it has to be for me to still think that way.

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                                      • 18 Sep 2022

                                      these vanilla models are there simply to entice the majority of the market over to the pro versions and thus spend more money, they are even priced that way now as well, i mean how much different is the iphone 14 compared to the 13? basically a repackaged device...they are simply basic enough but expensive enough that most people will naturally just pay a bit extra for the raft of extra features and upgrades the pros offer, thats why the sales numbers tank for the vanilla models, same with the 12/13 series as well, pros acounted for what 90% of the line up and this year its around 95% so far on early estimates

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                                        • 18 Sep 2022

                                        "Another thing to look out for in the next 12 months is whether Apple adopts USB-C for iPhones as expected"

                                        Or Apple could also go full wireless charging to circumvent any law forcing them to adopt the USB type-C port and come up with some excuse not to include a wireless charger with the phone. Afterall, the unofficial wired charging speed of most of iPhone models aren't that much faster than their wireless charging so their users wouldn't feel any significant difference in that regard

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