Apple responds to why junkyard crash tests don’t always trigger iPhones’ Crash Detection
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- 01 Oct 2022
SShock, 01 Oct 2022You don't know how anything Apple works, but you just ... moreIf you can play with your phone, you can call an emergency service.
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- 01 Oct 2022
and to double comment, this compounds on top of a rising problem that people can no longer have privacy even in a car. big tech wants to be everywhere.
screw these mandated alcohol testing things, screw the in vehicle cameras, and screw anyone who supports this nonsense
with love, a geek that actually cares about technology
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- 01 Oct 2022
Anonymous, 01 Oct 2022No all I'm saying is, there might be many cases where ... moreThat's a stupid example, no different than saying "what if seatbelt doesn't save me". Or "what if airbags don't save me". None of features, including emergency calls are 100%. But if there is ANY chance that it might help or save you, wouldn't you want it to be there? You never take these features as "what if they don't help me", but as "what if they potentially help me".
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- 01 Oct 2022
I love how nobody is mentioning that location and all these other data-gathering sensors are required for a useless feel-good "feature". It's literally just a ploy to gather even more data to sell.
Nobody with an IQ above room temp even has an Apple or Google branded device in their lives. Probably Scamsung budget is what they'll have, that's enough data harvesting for one lifetime.
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- 01 Oct 2022
SShock, 01 Oct 2022So, when you all run out of arguments against it, you start... moreNo all I'm saying is, there might be many cases where the crash feature may not be as useful. If in case the phone can't find any signal to send an SOS message, then I guess I'll dye anyways, regardless of me having ios or android, so I'm better off having an Android and fiddling with custom ROMs, maybe changing wallpapers or themes on the phone, considering I'm stuck in a very very remote location, where no one can reach, let alone emergency services (let's say on top of the stonehenge)
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Anonymous, 01 Oct 2022what if emergency services aren't available if I'... moreSo, when you all run out of arguments against it, you start just making up unrealistic scenarios to s**t on Apple once again?
These emergency features are there to give you better chances, not to rescue you from most absurd unrealistic scenarios with 100% perfection. Nothing works like that. NOTHING. But if it improves chance of survival from 20% to 60%, wouldn't you take it? I guess not.
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- 01 Oct 2022
SShock, 01 Oct 2022You don't know how anything Apple works, but you just ... morewhat if emergency services aren't available if I'm stuck in some remote location maybe in a desert or cave where there's no cell reception ? Not saying it's easy to drive into a cave, but hey, I'm always willing to try something new 🙂
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Anonymous, 01 Oct 2022Since I don't have iPhone, I'll have to buy a pho... moreYou don't know how anything Apple works, but you just can't resist talking s**t about it. This is why no one likes your kind.
a) You don't need a watch, iPhone 14 alone is enough to detect a crash.
b) If emergency event is detected on supported devices, be it fall or crash, device is counting down automatically and when time runs out and you don't dismiss it, it will start calling emergency automatically
c) yes, if you're hurt and can't move, you'd just be there and wait for emergency services to arrive even if you have Android. Sideloading of apps and custom ROM's won't magically save you in an instant. But you can fiddle with custom themes and custom launchers while you're waiting
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- 01 Oct 2022
SShock, 01 Oct 2022But if you already have a phone, it's an advantage. Al... moreSince I don't have iPhone, I'll have to buy a phone and a watch first, and then have both on me while I drive, and then I'll have to wait for a crash, and then for the watch to detect it and trigger an emergency and finally I must be paying attention at the time (that's actually the hardest part) to confirm the rescue call, and then, to wait for the emergency services to arrive, if they even do in my region, and then I'll have to patiently wait injured in my car, as I listen to some tracks from my airpods, and finally when they arrive, I will be rescued (mission passed) but that does seem like a lot of work to get it right. I may have to practice a few times first
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Anonymous, 01 Oct 2022From a financial perspective, having a radar like system or... moreBut if you already have a phone, it's an advantage. Also it's quit a difference between 1000€ iPhone and 40.000€ car...
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SShock, 01 Oct 2022Great, but how does that help users that don't have a ... moreFrom a financial perspective, having a radar like system or one like volvo will be cheaper, because one needs to have an iPhone and an apple watch to save themselves in the case of an accident and emergency services, let alone via watch, aren't available in a lot of countries so the only best option would be to have the sensors into the vehicle rather than a phone, a watch, and support for services in areas reachable. Sounds like too much for a rescue. Also, the watch should successfully be able to detect it. Not really worth it imo
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Anonymous, 01 Oct 2022Volvo had long introduced in cars a lot better feature towa... moreGreat, but how does that help users that don't have a Volvo or a motorcycle? Ever thought of that?
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- 01 Oct 2022
I'll have to conduct this test on my own to verify if the feature works. Just need to buy an iPhone 14, a brand new car and a tree to hit the car into. And also, a life insurance
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- 01 Oct 2022
Kangal, 01 Oct 2022For those that don't know, this article is not correct... moreWhat you're saying is that if there is a bug in software, it means the tester tests it incorrectly. What is flawed is the iPhone 14, not the test results.
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- 01 Oct 2022
SShock, 01 Oct 2022It's not BS. How else is phone that's not connect... moreVolvo had long introduced in cars a lot better feature towards collisions i.e sensors that avoid the collision. These days even motorcycle have it
In conclusion: apple watch crash detection is a gimmick
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"You caught us in another lie, but we swear this was the last time!"
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- 01 Oct 2022
JLC, 01 Oct 2022Since 2007, I haven't even had one car without this fu... moreIt's not BS. How else is phone that's not connected to any vehicle telemetry detect collision otherwise? What Apple said makes perfect sense. You have to monitor external parameters and in case of crash, it's sudden deceleration (which is monitored by location tracking), accelerometers measure G forces, which in case of impact are always sudden extreme spikes and barometer would indeed sense a sudden increase in pressure if airbags deploy. Airbags are quite big and displace large volume of cabin space which would result in increased pressure. All this is usually accompanied with huge spike in loudness. To avoid false positives, Apple includes all these parameters in varying capacities and combinations. Currently, main condition seems to be traveling speed of a car, sudden increased G forces and loud noise. Pressure detection is probably just additional verification metric because airbags don't have to always deploy, but other conditions will most likely always be fulfilled.
I don't think anything was said for roll over events, at least not yet. They'll probably add this over time.
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- 01 Oct 2022
TheLastOnion, 01 Oct 2022User: "Hey Apple, Crash Detection in my iphone did not... morepeak comedy you got there
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- 01 Oct 2022
It will report your data to apple, regardless whether it detected car crash or not. Another coverup to steal your data.
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- 01 Oct 2022
what about if you are taking a "nap" in a parking place next to road ? the iPhone sensors didn't work? just because you aren't in a moving vehicle? that's mean bad luck for you, you can't have a sleep only in a parked vehicle.