Apple iPhone SE 4 renders show XR design, surprise no one

20 October 2022
The notch is in, the TouchID home button is out - the next iPhone SE will jump forward to the FaceID era of iPhones.

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Sin, 20 Oct 2022The iPhone mini name was always a lie It was bigger than ... moreWere the minis actually bigger than the SEs? Because I thought the minis were about the same size if not slightly smaller than SE 2 and 3 (which I can actually confirm by checking the specs on those phones on this site and looking at the dimensions). SE 1 is definitely somewhat smaller than the minis though.

The screen size doesn't always equate to the size of the phone itself.

    m.darwich, 20 Oct 2022given that the base model ipad is +$150 this one would be ... moreMy prediction is that it'll probably either stay at $429, or go up to $449 or $499.
    The hike to $499 is probably more likely, and it would make sense since they have the 12 and 13 mini currently at $599, and every other iPhone is $100 higher than the last.
    Although if the only things they're going to change are the screen, RAM and maybe the charging port, then they might either keep it at $429 or only go up to $449.

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      Anonymous, 20 Oct 2022I knew the SE models would take over the gap left behind by... moreThe iPhone mini name was always a lie
      It was bigger than iPhone se line of smartphones🤦

      Although this aside 🙄
      I think iPhone mini suffer from notch disease

      The iPhone se line was kinda like iPhone 6s last hope but apple does what they do best and take everything away from us

      Having a good screen & home button everything likeable about apple is being taken away from there products

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        you have to suffer, 20 Oct 2022you dont want a navigation bar on an iphone. it would be a ... moreRather sad too see the death of the home bottom
        It was one of the few things I liked that iPhones did have

        I thought the iPhone 5c was a good smartphone from design point of view it was my favourite of mine

        Plastic build colour opinions home bottom
        Good smartphone size

        but never brought it as it was overpriced like everything else from apple but after iPhone 6 apple has gone downhill

        Rip iPhone 5c no software support so it's turned too trash it's doubtful even custom ROM is possible

        Same crap happened too windows phone too expensive for me also
        Nokia Lumia 930 another favourite
        great design good bezel plastic build colour opinions end of software support probably can't even use custom ROM rip Nokia Lumia 930

        As Android manufacturers blindly copy apple it's very frustrating as apple such a bad inference in the market

        Microsoft rather awful as well

          RealLifePhones, 20 Oct 2022since there won't be FaceID it would have been great t... moreif it comes with v notch.. hell no that'll look disgusting

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            • 20 Oct 2022

            I knew the SE models would take over the gap left behind by the mini line. It makes the most sense since they still have all the production lines for the mini series. This also allows apple to charge more money for the SE(mini) line maybe heading towards the $599 territory since all their other phones have kinda gone up in price too...

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              you have to suffer, 20 Oct 2022you dont want a navigation bar on an iphone. it would be a ... moreOnly time I remember using iPhone was friends iPhone too choose random music songs too liston too in turns
              And that time in collage we was all given the iPad

              I could never really work out the interface in iOS
              Not the most familiar with iOS especially difficultly and frustration with the iPad not a tablet fan

              My problems I had was could never find the back button had many difficulties with navigation and controls iPhone is gesture control was huge pain in the backside

              But home bottom from Android is amazing
              Very reliable home bottom & bezels

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                crispcketlicker, 20 Oct 2022Now that's an unpopular opinion, frankly.My opinions have often been
                Unpopular opinions sadly


                  since there won't be FaceID it would have been great to see a teardrop notch. That would at least give the SE a distinct look since it's the Special Edition it deserves some unique features.

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                    • 20 Oct 2022

                    XR is so ugly, huge bezels (for a bezelless screen), wide notch and it's not a small phone like previous SE models. I very much prefer the 8 design but oh well, it's very outdated.

                      SShock, 20 Oct 2022Given how high prices are on iPhone 14, they can sell this ... moreI agree that is the way it will likely go, they will be better of ditching the 13 series though, any price cross over or even general parity between them and this next SE is going to be a problem to market.

                        Sin, 20 Oct 2022Now the iPhone se line of phones turning into Garbage On... moreyou dont want a navigation bar on an iphone. it would be a fake one😂😂

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                          • 20 Oct 2022

                          given that the base model ipad is +$150
                          this one would be +$150/$200 which will be $600/$650, how would it be different than iphone 13? 🤦🏻‍♂️

                            Mmmma, 20 Oct 2022One good camera better than 3 useless cameras I hoped tha... morefinding an android phone with single rear cam but underspecced.
                            usually found midrangers or lower midrange have 3 camera setup but unnecessary. with entry level iphone, they gave you:
                            a better chipset and single rear cam design with OIS.

                              Anonymous, 20 Oct 2022They gotta keep it small like the current oneThat SE's up to this point have been smaller is mainly a byproduct of their being based on legacy designs which were themselves smaller. It's never been the mission statement of the SE to be the smallest iPhones though, that's just coincidental. The SE's primary purpose has been to be as cheap an iPhone as possible.

                              Those wanting the next SE or any subsequent SE to be based one of the mini's are likely going to be in for a disappointment. The XR is a prime candidate on which to base an SE, as it means you get both the reduced costs of an existing platform and increased battery life inherent of a larger design. I'm betting after an XR based SE, the next one will be based on the 12/13 standard models.

                                you have to suffer, 20 Oct 2022it would be nice if it had 1080p LCD. i mean. iphone 6s, 7/... moreI've had smaller phones with 1080p and now I have this 840p XR and I can tell you, there is no need for 1080p. It just puts unnecessary load on chipset for zero visible fidelity. Or do you really pixel peep at the phone's display at distance of I don't know, 4 cm? Sure, more is always better on paper, but is it really? I think it's not.

                                  DaFink, 20 Oct 2022If they can somehow get it to match the current SE prices, ... moreGiven how high prices are on iPhone 14, they can sell this for 600€ and it would still be "bargain" compared to iPhone 14. That's the problem. And they'll most certainly increase the price.

                                    SShock, 20 Oct 2022Long overdue change. Those thick chin and forehead of iPhon... moreIf they can somehow get it to match the current SE prices, then an XR based SE with an A15 will sell like hotcakes.

                                    Yes you'll get the usual complaining on this site, mostly around the display, no HRR and sub-1080p (like it matters on a 6.1 inch screen) and only a single camera, no Macro - Depth combo that you cannot do anything with, yet cannot live without apparently 🤷‍♂️

                                    It would all come down to that pricing though. they would need to keep a healthy gap between this and the 14 series, I do not count the 13's as they would likely be discontinued, in fact were I making this decision at Apple, I would do that now.

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                                      Sin, 20 Oct 2022Now the iPhone se line of phones turning into Garbage On... moreAre you okay son ?

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                                        • 20 Oct 2022

                                        Finally, Apple is making a more prominent move into the recycling business, so they can make even more profit from old stock...