Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 unveiled: faster, more efficient, with ray tracing and Wi-Fi 7

15 November 2022
There are performance improvements on all fronts, but Qualcomm stayed focused on efficiency. There are also AI and modem improvements. 

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  • 17 Nov 2022

Olympus Oms, 16 Nov 2022Nice try. If Samsung is so shy, then why have they provided... moreYou are definitely smoking. Samsung never put "Snapdragon" word on its official poster/product specification, because it has lower brand value compared to samsung brand.

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    • 17 Nov 2022

    Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022So, till A510 was announced people were happy buying A55 fo... moreTBH A55 is enough for day to day use, issue with A510 is the current battery consumption. As a efficiency cores, power consumption should be the primary consideration.

      Fulljack, 16 Nov 2022bruh, you do realize Qualcomm "Kryo" cores are no... moredont feed me words i didnt say, no where in my comment i mention kryo, i said krait.

      as i said in last comment from cortex A72 to A78 Arm made really good cores, even lower cores like A55 use less than 1W, so it make sense for Qualcomm to use superior cores,

      but Arm suprised everyone with cortex A710 and A510, you cant blame chipmakers because of Arm failures,

      thats why Qualcomm is finding solution through Nuvia to replace Arm designs, Even Samsung is rumored to make custom cores again.

      and Av1 make sense if you stream FHD, 4k, 8k etc at lower resolution vp9 or x264 can use fewer MB than AV1.

      also those faster wifi and network are needed atleast for local files, i have wifi 5 (AC) phone and i use 5GHZ and i can feel how slow it is, just moving few GB files between phones it take lot of time.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 16 Nov 2022

        Always go for Snapdragon for phones and Intel for laptops to avoid issues. Don't forget about a decent Nvidia GPU.

          It's that time of the year where all the ' gaming phones" will be the first to have the latest Snapdragon.. will it be blackshark, rog or the red magic

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            • 16 Nov 2022

            Fulljack, 16 Nov 2022bruh, you do realize Qualcomm "Kryo" cores are no... moreKryo is just stock arm cores + 1 MB extra L3 cache

              Hemedans, 16 Nov 2022Why is Qualcomm Bad guy and Mediatek good guy here? Qualcom... morebruh, you do realize Qualcomm "Kryo" cores are nothing but a rebrand of Arm cortex cores, right? Qualcomm has been using since late 2017 when they announced Snapdragon 835.

              I'm not saying Mediatek is the good guy, never was. All I'm saying is, Qualcomm has near monopoly in flagship segment and it's clear that it makes them innovating less and less. people don't need mmwave or wifi 7, no, not really. thay want an actual hardware decoding for av1, better efficiency for their chips which they don't care as they keep using insanely power inefficient A510 cores, and better CPU performance where it has been shown that both 888 and 8 Gen 1 are thermal throttled.

                Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022Today, CPU power is a false problem... X86 is still ahead ... morei find it hard to comprehend your comment compare to what i said, what does isp, video and other things you mention have anything to do to what i say?

                also there are plenty of benchmark like spec2017 which can give us accurate cpu perfomance, most anandtech result or geekerwan test i post here they come from spec2017, i rarely use geekbench.

                m1 has powerfull cpu thats a fact and thats not because of video editing.

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                  • 16 Nov 2022

                  Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022Overclocked version for july 2023 : Single core 1550 ... moreMulti-core will be between 4500-4600 nothing more, unless you have fan like Nubia redmagic and in that case you can get 4800.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 16 Nov 2022

                    Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022Today, CPU power is a false problem... X86 is still ahead ... moreAV1 codec since 4 gens of mediatek. Have you ever seen it work/used? Have you even heard anyone talking about it? No. Mediatek has way less support than Qualcomm. Just wait and see ray tracing support for both.

                    Anything is not official until it's done by Qualcomm and Apple. So whatever you say, Apple and Qualcomm are the kings.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 16 Nov 2022

                      Overclocked version for july 2023 :

                      Single core 1550
                      Multi core : 5100-5200

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                        • 16 Nov 2022

                        Vikass17, 16 Nov 2022How do you know they are using A710 instead of A715.Listen at 31:55

                        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rqo7oniDlI&feature=youtu.be

                        “These 4 cores have two distinct microarchitectures”

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                          • 16 Nov 2022

                          Vikass17, 16 Nov 2022How do you know they are using A710 instead of A715.There is an article in XDA and mushaal Rahman tweeted it's 2 A710 + 2 A715 cores and not 4 A715 cores as previously thought, also the A510 also has 32 bit support.

                          Overall a good chipset nothing great as they touted it to be.

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                            • 16 Nov 2022

                            Hemedans, 16 Nov 2022Why is Qualcomm Bad guy and Mediatek good guy here? Qualcom... moreToday, CPU power is a false problem...
                            X86 is still ahead for real CPU demanding task.

                            Co-processing is the way to improve to keep efficiency.
                            When Apple M1 beats X86 solutions on tasks like video edition, it's not because of powerfull custom cores, it's because of ISP/VPU...things initially developped for cameras...the true weakness of Intel's and AMD's X86.
                            What Microsoft has to do is using properly ISP/VPU/AI used on Qualcomm's and Mediatek's.
                            But people are formated on Geekbench results...focusing on CPU is a mistake.

                            Mediatek or Amlogic not only use whatever Arm did...
                            Both provide their own video decoder for exemple...
                            AV1 decoder you see only this year on 8 Gen 2 exists since 4 generations on Mediatek's :
                            - D1000
                            - D1100/1200
                            - D8100/9000
                            - D9200
                            It exists on Amlogic's too...even on Cortex A35 based (S905Y4)
                            Own video decoder/encoder isn't the only custom thing.

                            Mediatek's developped Ray-tracing and VRS on Mali G77, based on AI hardware for things like super sampling and denoising...G77 wasn't made for ray-tracing.
                            AI is custom
                            ISP are Custom
                            Wifi and Bluetooth are Custom (Apple still buy Broadcom's)
                            Mobile modem is custom (Despite buying Intel's subdivision, Apple is still unable to do his own).
                            ...

                            And even if we talk about Arm's GPU, just look at how Samsung used Mali compared to Mediatek.
                            Google Tensor's G78mp20 runs very badly.
                            Nvidia did mistakes with Cortex CPU management...CPU's behavior on Tegra 3, 1.3ghz Quad-core Cortex A9 wasn't better than smaller Quad-core Cortex A7 on mt6582 or Snapdragon 400.
                            Qualcomm failed using properly 8 Cortex A53 on Snapdragon 615 compared to mt6752.
                            It's not that easy.
                            You think building soc is like playing Lego : put bricks on some others bricks, it's not!

                            You're always so condescending when you are speaking about Mediatek and others...except Qualcomm and Apple.

                              Hemedans, 16 Nov 2022Why is Qualcomm Bad guy and Mediatek good guy here? Qualcom... moreCompetition in on the GPU end doesn't only mean ARM architecture

                              It also means exclusive collaborations with video game vendors etc

                                Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022SD is always a generation ahead, what are you talking about?This is not true

                                The snapdragon chipset as a whole is NOT a generation ahead

                                It's more a mixed bag

                                Qualcomm is using the same gen ARM CPU

                                GPU wise they are good but they are not a generation ahead of the competition

                                Maybe in AI or ray tracing in this gen SOC

                                  Anonymous, 16 Nov 2022i was dissappinted to see crappy a510 cpu and older a710 cp... moreHow do you know they are using A710 instead of A715.

                                    Kangal, 16 Nov 2022That +40% Efficiency is mostly coming from the 4nm-TSMC nod... more"Overall, this is a very "meh" chipset."

                                    It's a meh generation. A16, 8g2 nor D9200 are significant updates to previous chips (A15, 8G1+, D9000).

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                                      • 16 Nov 2022

                                      Techgeek91, 16 Nov 2022Well,atleast qualcomm managed to match a15 bionic cpu,now t... more„qualcomm might even take the crown from apple in near future“

                                      People have been saying this for years. Didn’t happen

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                                        • 16 Nov 2022

                                        Talkback, 16 Nov 2022Finally‼️ snapdragon would most likely be defeated by Media... more amen to that .