Report: the US is tightening export restrictions to Huawei, targeting 4G and Wi-Fi 6 tech

31 January 2023
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Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Huawei devices aren't available in a lot of markets an... more[ "No other Android manufacturer does that" ]

I have a Chinese Huawei Mate 30 Pro 5(G) bought with Emui 10 in 2019.
It was updated to Emui 11 based on Android 10 as well -> 2020.
Then I received Harmony OS 2.0 based on Android 11 -> 2021 , and currently I have Harmony OS 3.0 based on Android 12 -> 2022.
And today in 2023 it continues to be updated with its corresponding security patches, with a completely smooth system and without any type of bug or lag with an impressive camera taking amazing pictures.

    Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Huawei devices aren't available in a lot of markets an... moreThat's a lie.

    I have a Chinese Mate 30 Pro 5G bought with Emui 10.
    It was updated to Emui 11 based on Android 10 as well.
    Then I received Harmony 2.0 based on Android 11, and currently I have Harmony OS 3.0 based on Android 12.
    And it continues to be updated with its corresponding security patches, with a completely smooth system and without any type of bug or delay.

      Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Yes you did answer that but the point is, why can't Ch... moreThey don't need to, their market doesn't need it. Most of it that is, it wouldn't be worth it for the companies.

        Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023"yeah my phone takes 30 seconds to open settings, but ... moreI don't need an iPhone, I got flagship android phones. My old android phones don't take that long either. And yes I was clearly making it up, that's why I put it between quotation marks. It should've been clear anyways, given that I said Android 16.

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          DarlingYext, 31 Jan 2023"I don't think any of them get that many updates.... moreYes you did answer that but the point is, why can't Chinese companies offer better OS support. At least they can do 3. It can't be that hard for them

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            DarlingYext, 31 Jan 2023Couldn't care less about software updates on underpowe... more"yeah my phone takes 30 seconds to open settings, but look how awesome Android 16 is on this 4 year old phone wow, stunning!!!"


            At this point, you're making up stuff. No Android phone takes that long. Even my 6 year old phone doesn't take that long. Well anyways, iPhone XR might be a good phone for you. Affordable and "just works"

              Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Man I'm talking about "4 OS updates on a mid-rang... more"I don't think any of them get that many updates."

              I already answered you.

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                DarlingYext, 31 Jan 2023I did answer your question, mine got 2 with a confirmed 3rd... moreMan I'm talking about "4 OS updates on a mid-range phone"

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                  Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023i got a huawei mate 20 pro. it came with emui 9 out of the ... moreHuawei devices aren't available in a lot of markets anymore. Sure their OS is feature rich, but they're a kinda niche category now, like Sony and LG (when it was into phones) So I guess Huawei doesn't count
                  Also Samsung has started giving 4 major updates on mid-range phones. No other Android manufacturer does that

                    Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023But you still didn't answer the basic question: Wat... moreI did answer your question, mine got 2 with a confirmed 3rd on the way. But sure, I didn't fully answer your question. I don't think any of them get that many updates. Still, I would rather buy an iPhone if I wanted the most software updates.

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                      DarlingYext, 31 Jan 2023Couldn't care less about software updates on underpowe... moreBut you still didn't answer the basic question:

                      Watch Chinese phone gives 4 major OS updates ?
                      Forget the lag or the lack of it, it's upto the owners of the device to live with it, just tell me which Chinese phone gives 4 major updates

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                        Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Talking of A series, one thing Samsung is absolutely awesom... morei got a huawei mate 20 pro. it came with emui 9 out of the box. now i am at emui 12 and maybe i will get emui 13 too.

                          Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Talking of A series, one thing Samsung is absolutely awesom... moreCouldn't care less about software updates on underpowered basic phones. I'm not gonna go like: "yeah my phone takes 30 seconds to open settings, but look how awesome Android 16 is on this 4 year old phone wow, stunning!!!" And I work at a mobile phone accessory store, I see at least 30 Samsung phones every day, it's so boring but the thing is I'm not talking A04s when I say it's slow, I have seen an A33 take 10 seconds to even get to the lockscreen after pressing the power button. I know 10 seconds doesn't sound like much, but even an 8 year old phone can do the same instantly.

                          Also my flagship chinese phone, the iQOO 5 Pro did get up from Android 10 to 12 and it will get 13 as well.

                            AnonD-120291, 31 Jan 2023I wonder, is this because Huawei recently announced they wo... moreThere is no 'absolute' information out there but if you follow the breadcrumbs and read between some official lines, I'd say we are not far off seeing a 12 or 14nm HiSilicon 'chip-stacked' processor manufactured within China or Korea.

                            It may coincide with a return to 5G on mobile or that might come at a slightly later date.

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                              Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Tough luck. US couldn't stop them making their own spa... moreBBK is killing itself, there is no need to US intervation.

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                                DarlingYext, 31 Jan 2023Absolutely, because Samsung is so much better with some of ... moreTalking of A series, one thing Samsung is absolutely awesome at, is OS updates. Tell me which Chinese flagship phone does that, let alone their mid-range phones

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                                  The US is only interested in “free trade” and “fair competition” when it is winning. As soon as foreign industries are stronger such as Airbus and Japanese car makers, the US find excuse to ban/tax/steal

                                  Are you surprised to learn the US banned its firms from paying Huawei loyalty on 5G patents. Stealing Huawei’s patents legally while claiming Huawei stole them from US firms that’s not even in 5G

                                    Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023Agreed, to a certain extent. The kids on this site are... moreWe used to have a global supply chain. The US was part of that. China began to challenge US technological hegemony and, through Huawei, took a lead in some strategic areas (5G being one of them and also the key to a new industrial revolution).

                                    The US had been caught with its trousers down and completely missed that boat. Huawei was poised to literally dominate the 5G revolution and have a huge say in 6G. Economies would feel benefits of 5G everywhere at an industrial and CE level. At the same time Chinese manufacturers were not only consuming more semiconductor products, they were designing their own chipsets etc. Huawei (HiSilicon) was there again.

                                    The most advanced chips were not being manufactured in the US, but in Taiwan. The US had basically nothing offer in that sense.

                                    In the handset market, Huawei (again) was primed to storm into the US market.

                                    If course Huawei was everywhere the US wanted to be but wasn't. ICT infrastructure, energy, science, software based technologies. Huawei was a huge competitor that the US had no answer to.

                                    That's when the craziness started in earnest. Numerous senators (with the technological intellect of a goldfish and a shorter memory) began pronouncing speeches with evermore frenzied anti-Huawei rhetoric.

                                    All this had actually started over ten years earlier with some truly Keystone Cops activities in the justice department. To the point of them trying to take a Chinese company to court that had literally no connection to Huawei but that just happened to have the word 'Huawei' in its name!

                                    Anyway, various 'hawks' began talking publicly of 'destroying' and 'choking' Huawei. Even going to the point of saying they were scared to death of the company.

                                    Faced with Huawei bettering numerous US companies on both products AND core technologies, Trump famously tweeted 'not on my watch' and began a government based campaign filled with accusations that have never ever been substantiated in any way. The US even took the unheard of step of re-opening a series of long closed civil cases in an attempt to make something stick.

                                    That's when the 'protectionist' era began. Tim Cook had at least two private interviews with Trump around the time. It is inevitable that some might say, in hindsight, that some kind of protection was brokered for Apple. As it was, the door was closed to Huawei in the US and in spite of that (not having access to one of the largest CE markets on the planet) Huawei still managed to briefly take top spot in handset sales worldwide.

                                    The the 'crusade' began with the US bludgeoning supposed allies into submission under threats if they didn't fall into line. Boris Johnson is rumored to have sat through five hours of a US official 'shouting' at him in order for the UK to back out of using Huawei 5G. A move that cost the UK a few billion and has seen them move evermore slowly in 5G industrialisation. All at the behest of the US.

                                    Then the US started talking about, ehem, 'clean' networks (after having been exposed by Snowden as having some of the dirtiest networks on record). Not to mention the 30 year scandal with encryption that was only discovered a couple of years ago.

                                    Then there was the Huawei CFO case. Wow!

                                    So, it was one desperate act after another and it eventually pulled in other sovereign states against their will. Most of them royally angered by unilateral US foreign policy directly impacting their own sovereign interests. Often without prior consultation. See the last round of sanctions.

                                    The upshot is that as the US has failed on vision and lacks the competitive edge to use the global supply chain in the correct way, it has set out to destroy it.



                                      Need more bans, PRC are untrustworthy IP theft menace. Way overdue on clamping down to the stealing.

                                        Demon Slayer, 31 Jan 2023Now it's bbk's turn with their 8mp + 2mp recycled... moreAbsolutely, because Samsung is so much better with some of their A series having 50+2+2mp camera setups.

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