Xiaomi 13 Ultra official with four 50MP cameras, variable aperture main lens

18 April 2023
Xiaomi's photography masterclass will make it to the international markets this time.

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Anonymous , 18 Apr 2023You just humbled that so called camera expert dude. I doubt... more✌️. Gonna start charging $20,00 per class.

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    • 18 Apr 2023

    AnonD-1078988, 18 Apr 2023Even if a phone has 200w charging, it will barely charge it... moreThere was phone from xiaomi with 120W (probably redmi device) that test shows peak was barely above 70W.
    There was vivo iqoo (8 or 9 series, dont remember) with similar charging and also uncapable of reaching 100W.

    If a brand says 20W, should reach 20W.
    If brand says 50W, should be 50W.
    If brand says 130W, should be 130.

    Not for a second only or not even 80% of value advertised.

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      • 18 Apr 2023

      TheLastOracle, 18 Apr 2023Hardware wise, this seems like a winner. Especially for pho... moreAs I have posted, there is imx802.

      If someone is willing to pay, that is another story. Sony Semicon is surely charge way more than conventional sensors. Even if client is Sony Electronics (S.E does not get discount)
      Only 3 brands so far have paid for dram-on-chip sensor because it is expensive tech.

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        • 18 Apr 2023

        UltraHD, 18 Apr 2023Oh shut up, 90w is still a pretty good deal.Yes ...for a low end phone.

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          • 18 Apr 2023

          Professional, 18 Apr 2023True,but many will deny! Flagships from Xiaomi are very good!because they only using midrange and whining about everything

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            • 18 Apr 2023

            xXxtremeboy, 18 Apr 2023How ? I haven’t heard of this before.by hacking phone using Qualcomm apps QPST.you can get free band

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              • 18 Apr 2023

              Interestingly, the 75mm camera may have a slightly larger effective lens diameter than the 120mm camera (it depends on how they rounded the specs), it may be 6.9mm.

              Nonetheless, the 120mm periscope camera has a quite large effective diameter: it should be approximately 6.6mm, only the Huawei P60 Pro (6.93mm) and phones like the Samsung Galaxy K Zoom (6.98mm) offer slightly more.
              If the lens is sharp and if the Quad Bayer color filter array (I guess it's a Quad Bayer sensor) produces no issues, then you can expect maybe nearly 20% more reach than with the 12s Ultra, so maybe it would outperform the S23 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro at 240mm.

              The reason is diffraction: 6.6mm is more than 20% more than the effective diameter of the 12s Ultra's periscope (5.37mm) and the 12s Ultra's periscope should be very diffraction limited due to a pixel size / f-number ratio of 0.2 (I think that Quad Bayer sensors might perform similarly to Bayer sensors when there is a lot of (diffraction) blur).
              And like the Pixel 7 Pro, there are more sensor pixels at 240mm than with the S23 Ultra (though with a worse color filter array, which is maybe not so important when the image is already blurry due to diffraction).

              6.6mm is also 19% larger than the effective diameter of the S23 Ultra (5.55mm), but only 6% larger than the effective diameter of the S21 Ultra (6.24mm).

                Hardware wise, this seems like a winner. Especially for photography. It would be great to see Samsung (and Apple?), move to 50MP sensors too, on all their cameras. Especially for the absolute flagships. The smaller pixel size is compensated by the much faster aperture across all cameras. That's a neat little trick that Xiaomi seems to have mastered well.
                I had started believing that having 50MP cameras on all sensors would take longer.

                I wonder if the 2-Layer Transistor Pixel will ever make it soon enough, especially with a 50MP sensor, preferably with staggered HDR and other great HDR tricks up it's sleeve.

                  Mr. Anonymous, 18 Apr 2023I wish Samsung never gave up on their variable aperture efforts.A lot of Samsung ideas, like LG's, are way ahead of their time. Like rhe NX1 Mirrorless Camera. It was the diesy APS-C-sized, sensor that was backside illuminated, and produced some amazing 28MP photos (which was rhe largest size then). After it's firmware update, it's detail and dynamic range improved further.

                    Glad to see Xiaomi with this particular model slowly stepping away from heavy computational photography. There is a beauty in imperfection.

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                      • 18 Apr 2023

                      yes, i hope gsamarena test this,plz

                        I wish Samsung never gave up on their variable aperture efforts.

                          Anonymous, 18 Apr 2023Very impressive hardware, they did an amazing job. Too bad ... moreSamsung now offers 4 OS upgrades and 5 years of security patches. It's not what Apple does but that's quite good.

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                            Anonymous, 18 Apr 2023Obviously 14 bit gives more flexibility for edting. But is... moreYou just humbled that so called camera expert dude. I doubt any Sony aka Chinese fanboy will reply you with any technical info.

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                              Nick Tegrataker, 18 Apr 2023Xiaomi is definitely looking serious with this cameraphone:... more8k will be ultimate useless 24 fps shoot.

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                                • 18 Apr 2023

                                Hmm, most of the specs already leaked before the announcement. This met all my expectations with one exception, which is already rare.
                                The exception is MFD. 5cm...would've been acceptable on the main. On an extreme UWA like a 12mm equiv., it's unacceptable. Basically, this model is left without real macro.
                                A crude calculation of the magnification ratio: simplified using a 120° FoV, 5cm MFD means that the sensor covers an image 17.3cm in diagonal at MFD. Now the sensor is Type 1/2.5, meaning a 7.2mm physical diagonal, so the actual magnification is 0.0416, so about 1:25. Normalized to FF with a crop factor of 6.0, it's slightly lower than 1:4.
                                Generally, this sits between a regular lens with a good MFD(or with a macro converter, like M mount lenses converted to E mount) and a proper macro, but I don't believe any proper macro really goes below 1:2.5, and macro should be the strong suit of smartphones, owing to sensor size, so this definitely isn't anything impressive, Not flagship grade anyhow.
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                                If there's any other cause for concern, it's the unproven Chinese screen tech, and "built-in multi-frame sharpening". I hope the latter is just an issue in translation because there shouldn't be "sharpening" in RAW, it would more likely ruin the flexibility of the file like what happened with Apple's ProRAW.

                                As for "Fast Shot"...I'm assuming this won't support DNG output, which is usually the case with these functions in smartphones. It also depends on the specific implementation, such as where the user is left after the shot's been taken, or whether there's an option about it.

                                  Anonymous, 18 Apr 2023You can unlock those bands via root. No problem.How ? I haven’t heard of this before.

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                                    • 18 Apr 2023

                                    Cool! Another Xiadisaster.
                                    The large piece of glass will have a terrible influence on image quality, so they can add whatever they want...

                                      Hooman777, 18 Apr 2023Since 2021, Xiaomi announced they will support their top se... moreannouncing (press release) vs actually implementing those promised software updates are two entirely different things.

                                        Anonymous, 18 Apr 2023Very impressive hardware, they did an amazing job. Too bad ... moreThat's why its aftermarket value quickly drops.

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