Samsung Galaxy A54 vs. Xiaomi Poco F5/Redmi Note 12 Turbo

03 September 2023
Two popular midrangers go head to head.

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Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023But definetely not 99/98% So what if those phone majorit... moreBattery life isn't the biggest issue with the A54, it's performance. The battery life of the A54 isn't even bad at all, regular daily performance is.

    idkBg091, 03 Sep 2023A54 camera is way better then a34 in the night/low light co... moreYou won't notice that small difference unless you do big zoom in photos. If you compare it with S23 then yes, it's a big and noticeable diff.

      DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023There are 12 phones with 778G and 5000mAh, which is not a l... moreBut definetely not 99/98%

      So what if those phone majority of them lose battery life to A54, will that still make E1380 in efficient?

        Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023You just lie lol, i usual research almost all things i say ... moreThere are 12 phones with 778G and 5000mAh, which is not a lot out of 47.

        Especially considering that these 3 phones are exactly the same under different names meant for different markets, with an additional 4th phone that is barely different than the other 3.

        -Realme Q3s
        -Realme Q3t
        -Realme 9 5G Speed
        -Oppo K9s ( 64mp main sensor instead of 48mp, extra 8mp ultrawide, and 120hz display instead of 144hz )

        https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11414&idPhone2=11151

        These two are exactly the same as well.

        https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12045&idPhone2=12094

        Again, same phone, but different storage and ram amount.

        https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11061&idPhone2=11753

          This poll makes no sense Poco *F5 came with a 300 eur pricetag while Samsung A54 starting price was 550.
          If we would compare Poco F5 pro which initial price was equal to A54 initial price then Poco F5 pro would be very easy winner.
          Even Poco F5 which innital price was 250 eur less from innitial price of A54 is eqal to said Samsung device in some points even better.

          Honestly apart maybe few more updates and maybe a little bit better main camera there is nothing better compared to Poco F5.
          And the said F5 pro is even better than S23FE.

            OpposedScroll75, 04 Sep 2023Who said anything about the bezels, display and speakers in... moreI talk everything with data, am not interested in idle talks, if you find anything wrong with what i said please prove otherwise witg data.

              OpposedScroll75, 04 Sep 2023A little correction: 99% of Snapdragon 778G-equipped pho... moreYou just lie lol, i usual research almost all things i say here.

              Go to Gsmarena phone finding tool and do two search

              1. Search all phone with sd 778G there are total of 43 model

              2. Search phones witg sd 778G and 5000 mah or more there are 11 model

              So around 75% is correct figure, every 4 model anounced with sd 778G one has 5000mah.

              Those 11 phones which Gsmarena reviewed are Poco X5 pro, Samsung M52, Realme 9 speed edition etc.

                Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023I never said storage is not important and its dumb discuss... more"I never said storage is not important and its dumb discussing about soc and put bezell size."

                In your previous comment you stated "there are dozens of other things to consider, which made A54 better phone.", which is why I replied saying that because of the huge bezels I prefer even the design of the A34, so there is nothing left for the A54 to be better at, but it's camera.

                "So if cpu is better in E1380 and gpu is better and it show that in real life games perform better, also if Camera is better to prove isp thats show soc is superior."

                The camera hardware is better on the A54, of course the camera will take better pictures. Yeah sure it performs better in gaming, but only in gaming, and the A54 isn't a gaming phone. If one wants to play a lot of games and you have about 400 usd to spend on a phone, the Poco F5 is better than either the A54 or the A34. For regular daily usage and not much gaming, if one prefers Samsung at this price point or lower, the A34 is the better option.

                The A54 is completely sitting in no man's land.

                  Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023I never said storage is not important and its dumb discuss... moreWho said anything about the bezels, display and speakers in a comparison between two chipsets? 😭😂😂

                  You sound like a fanboy who's desperately trying to cling on to arguments were never there in the first place.

                    DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023"And we are tallking about E1380 vs D1080 since first ... moreI never said storage is not important and its dumb discussing about soc and put bezell size.

                    Soc is soc and should be compared as soc soc has
                    -Cpu core
                    -Gpu core
                    -Network Connectivity
                    -memory controller
                    -Camera isp etc.

                    So if cpu is better in E1380 and gpu is better and it show that in real life games perform better, also if Camera is better to prove isp thats show soc is superior.

                    Other things like storage, display, bezell, Speaker etc they are not relevant in criticizing soc unless memory was throttled by cintroller like sd 695.

                      Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Tsmc is efficient in same node like if you compare TSMC 4nm... moreA little correction:

                      99% of Snapdragon 778G-equipped phones don't have a 5000mAh battery capacity (usually 4200-4500), but the A54 does.

                      To even be able to compare the two shows just how inefficient the Exynos 1380 is by comparison.

                        Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Tsmc is efficient in same node like if you compare TSMC 4nm... more"..but definetely Samsung 4nm can match or slightly beat Tsmc 6nm."

                        That basically means that Samsung is behind. Is that a good thing? Absolutely not.

                          Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Nand in A54 is slower than A34 one check Notebookcheck, i c... moreSee, that's the thing. Samsung KNEW better than anyone what they were doing and yet they did it anyway.

                          This tells us that they had no plans to put faster storage than they already have. Both the A34 and the A54 use UFS 2.2 storage (according to the same source you're using, Notebookcheck). They could've put faster storage in but that would make them risk the S23's sales due to the regular user noticing the performance difference less than they would with UFS 2.2 onboard.

                            Anonymous, 04 Sep 2023You're completely uninformed. In single core tests dim... moreTsmc is efficient in same node like if you compare TSMC 4nm vs Samsung 4nm, but definetely Samsung 4nm can match or slightly beat Tsmc 6nm.

                            According to Qualcomm themselves (During sd 8+ gen 1 anouncement) Sd 8+ is 10% faster and 30% more efficient than 8. So thats roughly advantage of Tsmc 4nm vs Samsung 4nm. So definetely 6nm of Tsmc wont be superior.

                            We saw battery life of A54 there are dozens of sd 778G phones from samsung and other Manufactures, sd 778G has same configuration as E1380 and its from 6nm Tsmc manufacturing process, and A54 isnt inferior and even beat many phones with sd 778G when it come to battery life.

                            AlsoYou forgot about GPU which E1380 has 20% or more lead vs D1080.

                              Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Better in storage yes, but storage is one aspect of phone t... more"And we are tallking about E1380 vs D1080 since first post."

                              We sure are. However it doesn't matter which one is technically better, what matters is which one performs better in regular daily usage. That would be the Dimensity 1080 in the A34.

                              "Better in storage yes, but storage is one aspect of phone there are dozens of other things to consider, which made A54 better phone."

                              Exactly! The camera.. and I guess the camera.. and yeah that's it. Maybe the design, but with bezels so large, I prefer the design of the A34.

                              Also note that you mentioned this "..storage is more important here and software optimization.." a couple of comments ago, so now all of a sudden storage isn't that important just so you can defend the A54? Why? What's the point of this?

                              I didn't even mention any other brand when comparing the 2 chipsets, Samsung did a great job with an A series phone this year, the A34 that is, not the A54.

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                                Anonymous, 04 Sep 2023This isn't even a debate. poco f5 has the better hardw... moreThere's probably as much to "fix" as in OneUI anyway. What's so good about One UI? It's fans make it sound like some stock Andorid or something, when in reality it's a heavy custom skin just like MIUI, full of bloatware. Why is it that, useless apps in Xiaomi is called bloatware but not in OneUI? It's all same!

                                  Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023SOC has memory controller but what type of nand used thats ... more"So samsung could put that 2GBps Ufs 3.1 storage (soc support it) but instead they opt cheaper Nand in ufs 2.2, so this is not Exynos 1380 limitation."

                                  Of course it's not a chipset limitation. How is this even a defense for Samsung tho?

                                  If it was at least a chipset limitation I could understand it, as it would be impossible to make it better, but this was a conscious decision made by Samsung to purposefully make the phone cheaper to manufacture, but the phone ISN'T CHEAP, so this way they can make more profit. That's all this is about.

                                    DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023So even you admit that the A34 is better, obviusly you woul... moreBetter in storage yes, but storage is one aspect of phone there are dozens of other things to consider, which made A54 better phone.

                                    And we are tallking about E1380 vs D1080 since first post.

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                                      Anonymous, 04 Sep 2023Good thing is, only small number of people still buying inf... moreso you would rather buy the a54 with crappy hardware and lose performance rather than expending minimal effort installing a custom rom on good hardware?

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                                        Hemedans, 03 Sep 2023D1080 isnt better than E1380, its not even close, stop spre... moreYou're completely uninformed. In single core tests dimensity 1080 is certainly better, but worse in multi core tests. So overall it's probably tie. However, TSMC chips are more efficient and reliable in general, so will pick trust it over exynos anyday

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