Samsung Galaxy A54 vs. Xiaomi Poco F5/Redmi Note 12 Turbo

03 September 2023
Two popular midrangers go head to head.

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  • 04 Sep 2023

This isn't even a debate. poco f5 has the better hardware and you can fix the software by installing a custom rom.

    Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Nand in A54 is slower than A34 one check Notebookcheck, i c... moreBoth use UFS 2.2 m8

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-A54-5G-review-A-powerful-mid-range-smartphone-with-many-upgrades.710600.0.html - Storage: 128 GB UFS 2.2 Flash, 128 GB, 100 GB free

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-A34-5G-smartphone-review-Affordable-all-rounder-with-an-extra-bright-OLED-display.709909.0.html - Storage: 128 GB UFS 2.2 Flash, 128 GB, 96.2 GB free

      Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Its like me blame Blame Poco F5 camera to Sd 7+ gen 2, we k... moreSo even you admit that the A34 is better, obviusly you wouldn't say you admit it, but you basically did.

      Answer me these then:

      "Plenty of Ufs 2.2 with different resuts, just take same Phone as example

      A34 random write (4KB) is around 200MBps same benchmark A54 scored around 70MBps"

      So why would/did Samsung use worse UFS 2.2 storage in their more expensive and ultimately higher-end A series model, compared to their lower-end A series model?

      Why did Samsung not take adventage of the UFS 3.1 support on either the Dimensity 1080 or the Exynos 1380, or both or at least on the higher-end one (supposedly the Exynos is that) ?

        OpposedScroll75, 04 Sep 2023You do realise that Samsung will never use UFS 3.1 in this ... moreNand in A54 is slower than A34 one check Notebookcheck, i cant link because my comment will go in database for a while,

        So A34 is smoother not because D1080 is better soc its because A34 was equiped with faster storage.

        In random write(4KB) A34 is 3 times faster than A54.

          DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023"..storage is more important here and software optimiz... moreIts like me blame Blame Poco F5 camera to Sd 7+ gen 2, we know Sd 7+ is superior soc and has ISP to surpass E1380 but we dont blame soc for that issue but oem for chosing bad camera configuration.

          Same here its not fault of E1380 it was paired with slow storage, soc perform as intended, same perfomance as other sub 2.4ghz A78 soc, and surpass other Mali G68Mp4 soc like D900, D920, E1280 and D1080 in gpu. But you guys hate exynos hence you will find all fault as Exynos issue even if its not.

          Also having Same Ufs standard doesnt mean perfomance is same, Ufs version are just guideline (standard) on how much max speed you can achieve but they perform different from one nand to another.

          Plenty of Ufs 2.2 with different resuts, just take same Phone as example

          A34 random write (4KB) is around 200MBps same benchmark A54 scored around 70MBps

            Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023SOC has memory controller but what type of nand used thats ... moreYou do realise that Samsung will never use UFS 3.1 in this chip, right?

            And it's not like the Snapdragon 778G and Dimensity 1080 don't have support for UFS 3.1 either. In fact, both of them do. It just never gets used.

            Whatever way you spin it, the Exynos 1380 does not have an advantage over the competition.

            Both the A34 (Dimensity 1080) and the A54 (Exynos 1380) use UFS 2.2 but have support for UFS 3.1. Naturally, one would assume that the end result would be the same if both chips got UFS 3.1. The A34 would be faster yet again.

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              Anonymous, 04 Sep 2023The top 10 best-selling smartphones until June 2023 (first ... moreFinally the Era of chinese garbage phone is over.🫰

              Top 10 best selling phone in 2023 dominated by Apple and Samsung.

              Everyone is happy.

                OpposedScroll75, 04 Sep 2023What storage gets used in a chipset is the manufacturer... moreSOC has memory controller but what type of nand used thats Oem choice,

                Like Exynos 1380 support
                -lpddr4x or Lpddr5
                -Storage up to UFS 3.1.

                So samsung could put that 2GBps Ufs 3.1 storage (soc support it) but instead they opt cheaper Nand in ufs 2.2, so this is not Exynos 1380 limitation.

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                  • 04 Sep 2023

                  imados, 04 Sep 2023Anyone who support buying phones without chargers are getti... moreGood thing is, only small number of people still buying inferior phone with bad software like Xiaomi.

                  Most of people appreciate good software optimization by buying Samsung or Apple only.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 04 Sep 2023

                    DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023It's one thing that you failed to quote the actual num... moreLooks like a garbage phone user has really really bad understanding in capturing information from news article.

                    The table literally shows that Samsung has INCREASING marketshare from 20% marketshare in wholeyear 2021 to 21% marketshare in wholeyear 2022.

                    Source: https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-slipped-smartphone-market-share-topped-2022-shipments/

                    Read again slowly...and accept the fact that most of mainstream chinese brands had collapsing marketshare in 2022. I understand if you have only little number of IQ.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 04 Sep 2023

                      everyone forget the fact that crapynos have bad signal receiver and hot when using 5g

                        Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Read my other Comment, i explain Reason of stutter, its sto... moreWhat storage gets used in a chipset is the manufacturer's choice, and is ultimately a part of the SOC too.

                        A SOC, or a system-on-chip, refers to an integrated circuit that combines the CPU, RAM, Storage, Network Modems and the ISP all into one package.

                        If one component is slow, you can't just say "Oh that component is slow but the rest of the SOC is good". Since that component is still a part of the SOC, the whole SOC will get the blame for that one component's slow performance.

                          hmm, 04 Sep 2023Poco as a brand is 5 years old only and X3 Pro and M3 basic... moreThe Snapdragon 810 was never used in a Samsung Galaxy S or Note series phone. It was supposed to be used for the Galaxy S6, S6 Edge and Note 5 but it was replaced with the Exynos 7420 in all markets due to the 810's awful heating problems.

                          The Note 7 series launched with either the Snapdragon 820 (US Model) or the Exynos 8890 (international model). That chipset DID NOT cause the infamous explosions of the Note 7. The cause of that was because Samsung tried to cram in too much capacity in too little space. This was fixed by putting a smaller capacity battery into the Note FE (basically the Note 7's parts reused in a newer model)

                            Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Something being faster in day to day things has nothing to ... more"..storage is more important here and software optimization.."

                            That's what I said as well, the Exynos 1380 performs worse than it could due to lack of optimization, which is Samsung's fault.

                            "Due to slow UFS used in A54 thats why people experience stutter this issue.."

                            It doesn't matter why the issue is there, the point is that it's there, while it isn't on similarly priced phones. Not even the A34 has said issues, yet both of them use the same UFS 2.2 storage, so that's not the problem.

                            Samsung using "slow" UFS storage is entirely their fault, both the Dimensity 1080 and their own Exynos 1380 supports UFS 3.1, they simply chose not to take adventage of that.

                            https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/samsung-exynos-1380-vs-mediatek-dimensity-1080

                            https://nanoreview.net/en/phone/samsung-galaxy-a54-5g

                            https://nanoreview.net/en/phone/samsung-galaxy-a34-5g

                              OpposedScroll75, 04 Sep 2023Watch any speed test on YouTube between the A34 and the A54Read my other Comment, i explain Reason of stutter, its storage issue and has nothing to do with soc.

                                DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023It's one thing that you failed to quote the actual num... moreMarketshare is not sales, Entire smartphone industry will still be 100%, doesnt matter if sale increase or decrease.

                                  DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023"..can you mention those Optimization which D1080 is b... moreSomething being faster in day to day things has nothing to do with cpu, all modern soc with A78 are enough to handle UI and other small tasks, storage is more important here and software optimization and i have been saying this for long time but you guys are not even interested in truth.

                                  Gsmarena dont benchmark storage for All phones go to Notebookcheck review of A54

                                  -Sequential Read 256KB (around 500MBps)
                                  -sequential write 256KB ( around 300MBps)
                                  -random read 4KB (around 200MBps)
                                  -random write 4KB (around 70MBps)

                                  Most phones in this price point including A53 has 200% of faster storage speed like pixel 6A, Xiaomi 13 lite etc surpass 1GBps read speed and 200MBps random read.

                                  Due to slow UFS used in A54 thats why people experience stutter this issue has nothing to do with Exynos chipset used. This logic is known for years core i3 with faster ssd will be butter smooth while i9 with Hdd wil stutter in normal tasks.

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                                    • 04 Sep 2023

                                    Anyone who support buying phones without chargers are getting exactly what they deserve, make these billionaires companies more rich what can i say..
                                    I'm buying Xioami any time any day as long as they keep doing good work on providing solid phones with important inbox components such as a charger.
                                    which no phone can even start without.

                                      Anonymous, 04 Sep 2023List of phone brands with collapsing marketshare in 2022 (c... moreIt's one thing that you failed to quote the actual numbers from the article, that you linked yourself but you forgot to mention that Samsung has lost some matketshare too.

                                      15,4% to be exact over the whole year. The entire smartphone market is losing matketshare, not just chinese brands and not just Samsung.

                                        Hemedans, 04 Sep 2023Both D1080 and E1380 have actual same cpu and Gpu, they per... moreWatch any speed test on YouTube between the A34 and the A54

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