200MP telephoto cameras will be the hottest new trend, according to Samsung

19 September 2023
The inherent zoom capabilities of these sensors have only been used in main cameras with wide lenses for now. In the future a 3x cam could also reach out to 6x and 12x.

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  • 19 Sep 2023

That is very cool Samsung, but can we please have like battery improvements?

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    Anonymous, 19 Sep 202361mp of real SONY RGB pixels vs 200mp of scamsung hexadeca ... moreIt is not fake pixel , it is smaller pixel .

    Larger pixel will provide better result.

    But More pixel will provide you more flexibility when compared to same sized sensor with lesser megapixel. For example if you zoom a 12mp 1/3 sensor to 4x the resultant image will have only 0.75 mp photo. But if you have 200 mp 1/3 sensor zoomed to 4x it will have 12.5mp photo .

    Which one you think will be better 0.75mp or 12.5mp ? Atleast you can zoom 12.5mp more without trying to break pixel.

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      yalim, 19 Sep 202324mm 50MP main camera and 70mm 200MP zoom camera will need ... moreSetup will be 13mm, 23mm + third camera.

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        Nick Tegrataker, 19 Sep 2023TechInsight's microscopic view on the sensor confirms ... moreThere was more than one 40mp sensor.

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          • 19 Sep 2023

          Nick Tegrataker, 19 Sep 2023TechInsight's microscopic view on the sensor confirms ... more2.5MP was 100% software for 1080p video.

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            PepperPot, 19 Sep 2023Will the images still look like a water painting when I zoo... moreYes.

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              • 19 Sep 2023

              Nokia 808 pure view used ois for the first time in a smartphone as well as super sampling from large megapixel sensor to a smaller one for enhanced details. Also they implemented the lossless zoom (the same tech apple is using now).

              If someone truly admires photography then they should stick with prime lenses and not zoom lenses in smartphones like all the manufacturers except sony (they made actual zoom lens in one of their recent smartphone). But actual zoom lens is not good in a smartphone due to constraint in glass/plastic quality and tiny sensor.

              Keep in mind the below line:
              Phone manufacturers mention the zoom capability of a smartphone which is implemented through multiple prime lenses and not through a single lens with variable zoom range just like sony recent phone.

              Ideally below lenses should be used because these are some of the most famous focal lengths
              16mm
              35mm (check sony fe 35mm f1.4 GM camera samples)
              85mm (check sony fe 85mm f1.4 GM camera samples)
              135mm (check sony fe 135mm f1.8 GM camera samples)

              And for aperture it should be f/1.2 to f/2.8 max


              35mm is much better than 24mm for human subject because it has very less distortion.

              85mm is the world standard for portraits. 135mm is also used for very tight portraits or when more background compression is required.

              Gsmarena should create an article which includes real camera samples from above lenses so that the majority of the readers can know what is an actual professional camera because all the nerds know but majority don't.

                PepperPot, 19 Sep 2023Will the images still look like a water painting when I zoo... moreNo because the resolution will wb above 12mp and also combined with computational photography algorithms it wil be like hybrids of the past but better

                  Apple has done something like this with the iPhone 15 series but not crazy zooms or sensors or anything like that but still kinda

                  I don't think that Sony solution will be the solution because it needs a lot of hardware and space for there to be a substantial distance between the zoom levels


                  And I think this path Samsung is going is the future

                  But u can't really predict tech these days something better might come up.

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                    • 19 Sep 2023

                    24mm 50MP main camera and 70mm 200MP zoom camera will need less space compared to 3 cameras (1 periscope). this kind of dual camera can use smooth variable focal lengths between 1x-2x and 3x-12x, in theory. since, there will be two sensors, zoom camera can use a bigger sensor than a regular zoom camera.

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                      • 19 Sep 2023

                      Anonymous, 19 Sep 202361mp of real SONY RGB pixels vs 200mp of scamsung hexadeca ... moreLet's assume for a second that you're right, why 61mp instead of 12mp? If mega pixel doesn't count, why even use a whole 61mp when you could use 12mp? So, does mp count or not?

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                        RRHood, 19 Sep 2023in the xperia z2 days, almost 10 years ago. When the iphone... moreI know this, but I thought we are talking about some new sensors!

                          Dr. Watson, 19 Sep 2023They were made like a decade ago, but yeah, they did.I thought we are talking about some new sensors. Who cares about a 7, 8 years old sensor anyway?

                            Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023Z3 , M5, Z5, XZ2 ? Huawei had some bayer 40mp used as s... moreThose are old ones!! I thought we are talking about new sensors here. I did not read carefully that comment. :D

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 19 Sep 2023

                              I like the ISOCELL HP2 on my S23U but the stock camera software needs an overhaul imo.
                              The processing ends up being far noisier than it should be, and photos taken with the GCam port don't have the same problem. Color banding is also a big problem I've run into with the Samsung app.

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                                Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023That's why I don't use phone camera for people or... moreAgree. Dedicated telephoto camera is the way to go

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                                  • 19 Sep 2023

                                  Nah, these 50 80 100 200 500 MP smartphone cameras have been shown to be worse than regular 12 or 24 mp. Its too much glitter and less effectiveness

                                    Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023Z3 , M5, Z5, XZ2 ? Huawei had some bayer 40mp used as s... moreTechInsight's microscopic view on the sensor confirms that Huawei's 40MP UWA camera was actually using a 16-in-1 binning sensor (So the effective resolution was only 2.5MP if you fully bin the pixels), much like Samsung's 200MP sensors.

                                    https://www.techinsights.com/blog/imaging-sensing-end-year-highlights
                                    https://www.techinsights.com/sites/default/files/2019-12/charts-for-blog-3-2.jpg

                                      Mobilemaster, 19 Sep 2023Did Sony made such sensors you mentioned?They were made like a decade ago, but yeah, they did.

                                        Mobilemaster, 19 Sep 2023Did Sony made such sensors you mentioned?in the xperia z2 days, almost 10 years ago. When the iphones still couldnt make out a QR code.

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