Samsung urges Apple to embrace RCS

10 October 2023
Yet another Android maker pleads with Apple over its stubbornness.

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  • 10 Oct 2023

Phantom Ensemble, 10 Oct 2023Here in the US, iPhones are stereotyped to be the superior ... moreThis. I’m American too.

I see a good amount of intentionally laggy “android users be like” memes sometimes. I’ve even seen memes where someone dropping their phone and the battery popping out is apparently funny:

https://www.tiktok.com/@itsbankrolldyl/video/7185335578622315822

I think you can’t even properly be in some JOBS in the US without having an iPhone since companies use them for work apps since iPhones are dominant in the US.

When it comes to Androids vs iPhones in the US it’s almost as divisive as MPH vs KMH.

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    • nGT
    • 10 Oct 2023

    So so funny Apple will do what apple whats regardless...wake up

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      • Anonymous
      • 0cB
      • 10 Oct 2023

      I just use Samsung Messages app no matter what. That's iPhone users should worry and not me. I have zero Apple devices. No Apple no issues.

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        • logic
        • 55a
        • 10 Oct 2023

        DBS, 10 Oct 2023We don't live in 2005 in Europe. We don't use tex... moreif texting was convinient then you'd use texting, that's kinda the point.

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          • 2op
          • 8XP
          • 10 Oct 2023

          RCS is anyway an awful communication app with awful security. Please apple, resist! :))
          (I don't answer to trolls)

            Only Americans have these problem.

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              • QwZ
              • 10 Oct 2023

              Anton., 10 Oct 2023The same for LATIN AMERICA, EXAMPLE, I have 1000 free SMS a... moreI have 100 SMS's per day for an year and still doesn't use it

                DBS, 10 Oct 2023We don't live in 2005 in Europe. We don't use tex... moreThe EU is stepping in from a different perspective, they will demand interoperability between chat platforms and require a backdoor.

                  walkman8, 10 Oct 2023Kinda communist of your nation, don't you think - all ... moreOne is state imposed named as communism and the other is society imposed without a name. We really don't know which one is worse though.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • Iby
                    • 10 Oct 2023

                    As probably the first American to log on this morning, I'm going to give a two part explanation as to why this is still a problem:

                    Part 1 is that Apple is a majority of the smartphone market (54%), and approaches a monopoly among the younger demographics (87% of teenagers for example). And as a few people have already mentioned, there is a stigma in many groups against having an Android phone. As a result, many group chats will be comprised entirely of iPhone users, so there'll be no reason to use a third party app when native iMessage will work. And for those who don't, in the words of Tim Cook, you're supposed to just, "Get an iPhone."

                    Part 2 is that even if everyone agreed to install third party messaging apps, there is no consensus on which app to use. In virtually every country, there is a single app that everyone uses (Telegram is big in the former Soviet Union, WeChat in China, Line in Japan, Kakao in South Korea, WhatsApp for most of the world.) But in the US there was never any reason to switch to a messaging app early on, because SMS was free or cheap, while mobile data read comparatively expensive, while most of the rest of the world had the opposite. So in the US, people stayed on SMS, and then iPhone users got iMessage on top of that. And because we never went through that middle phase, we have no consensus on which app(s) to use. In fact, WhatsApp and Telegram have sketchy reputations here, while most people have no clue what Signal is. And even though many people do have WhatsApp or another app installed, they exclusively use it for international communication.

                    So what is the solution to this? Short of some mass deprogramming of the Cult of Apple, I'd suggest an FCC regulation requiring all mobile phones that support future frequencies to support RCS communication. This would not be dissimilar to when they required that phones with LTE Band 13 be sold unlocked (to force Verizon to sell unlocked phones, which they did), and would have the advantage of forcing Apple to comply in the US, instead of software locking features to the EU.

                      DBS, 10 Oct 2023We don't live in 2005 in Europe. We don't use tex... moreRCS is not outdated or obsolete technology.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • mFd
                        • 10 Oct 2023

                        I buy new android phone and google message say that it's unsupported device for RCS. So I think Apple know what to do. Sms must continue and regular messengers in parallel.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • fCC
                          • 10 Oct 2023

                          I don't think apple will ever accept this proposal

                            DBS, 10 Oct 2023We don't live in 2005 in Europe. We don't use tex... moreThe same for LATIN AMERICA, EXAMPLE, I have 1000 free SMS and I have never used them...

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                              • 10 Oct 2023

                              walkman8, 10 Oct 2023Kinda communist of your nation, don't you think - all ... moreI think that here it's more the case that Android is the deliberate choice of people who know what they want (in terms of features, price point, etc.), whereas Apple is more an easy choice - or a fashion statement.

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                                • 10 Oct 2023

                                autocascading, 10 Oct 2023The EU will simply decide this and Apple will comply.We don't live in 2005 in Europe. We don't use texting. Everyone here uses Telegram or WhatsApp.

                                So no, the EU will not step in here simply because this isn't an issue in Europe. This is an American-only problem. And one that Americans could solve themselves very quickly by leaving 2005 behind and joining the rest of the World in adopting instant messaging rather than outdated SMS/RCS protocols.

                                  All phones companies should ignore Apple like it doesn't exist. In all matters .
                                  Instead of copying features.

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                                    • mu4
                                    • 10 Oct 2023

                                    let OS' compete with each other. whatsapp is already the mainstream messaging platform with almost 3 billion active users. no need to use OS restricted apps.

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                                      • 10 Oct 2023

                                      walkman8, 10 Oct 2023Kinda communist of your nation, don't you think - all ... moreNo one is forcing them to buy an iPhone. Its a free market. You can buy anything you want.

                                        Staring eyes, 10 Oct 2023Apple is afraid. If it open it's fenced walls the trap... moreWhat is there outside that doesn't do what is inside that door, what are you saying? I wait your answer

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