Apple's new 14” and 16” MacBook Pro get M3 chips, Touch Bar is no more

31 October 2023
The entry-level version is now 14” and costs more.

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justasmile, 31 Oct 2023Have you owned a Macbook before? I have one, it has 5 ap... moreSurely, you must be joking

    SuperSpruce, 31 Oct 2023Are they marking 12GB of RAM up to $500? This is making Nvi... moreI could tolerate that if the base configuration is already representative of the great performance for most, not under-specced where you will always need to upgrade to actually get the spec appropriate for the time. BTO upgrades should be available for those needing more or in niche use case. Profiting from those niche uses is kinda understandable. They're less volume, thus justifying higher price.

    But today's Apple is just the worst. The base config is practically not going to sustain the lifecycle of the device itself. Worse, Apple is cutting corners with neutered SSDs on the base M2 models. Today's Apple literally force you to upgrade to actually get a machine that performs as advertised and is proper for today's computing tasks, focusing on squeezing as much money from customers either now or in the future.

    I feel sorry for the Apple Silicon team. They have made some of the best silicon to date, yet marketing practically neuter their achievements by pairing the base models, which are going to be the model bought by most consumers, with miniscule RAM and neutered SSD. In a few years, most people will feel their machines to be inadequate and buy newer macs despite the silicon is more than enough.

      Game Legion, 31 Oct 2023Delusions, I see. I can barely install more than 5 AAA gam... moreHave you owned a Macbook before?

      I have one, it has 5 apps there with 8gb of memory and runs fine.

        SuperSpruce, 31 Oct 2023And 8GB more DDR5 would cost... $20.Just watch someone in the comments still arguing.

          justasmile, 31 Oct 2023Thanks for proving my point further, bud. I really apprecia... moreDelusions, I see.
          I can barely install more than 5 AAA games without bottling the storage, not to talk about ram. I agree Macs have very good optimisation, but c'mon. $1600 and I have already filled up the storage with just 5 applications

            Game Legion, 31 Oct 2023Welcome back to 2023 https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/... moreThanks for proving my point further, bud. I really appreciate your help.

              potato4k, 31 Oct 2023LOL. They’re not optimized at all. In fact, 8GB RAM models ... moreAnd 8GB more DDR5 would cost... $20.

                Are they marking 12GB of RAM up to $500? This is making Nvidia's ridiculous $100 for 8GB VRAM look tame. Apple is the king of markups.

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                  rizki1, 31 Oct 2023the new price here is $700, if the used price is around $50... moreThat's one really good price. I mean, both of them.

                  I'm fine with 8GB ram, even with using Parallels Desktop and Windows based autocad. But if you can strech your budget a bit, get the 16GB ram version.

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                    Game Legion, 31 Oct 2023Welcome back to 2023 https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/... moreNo touch bar ? Welcome back to 1990

                      potato4k, 31 Oct 2023LOL. They’re not optimized at all. In fact, 8GB RAM models ... morePlease read this article for yourself.

                      https://www.howtogeek.com/865066/its-okay-to-buy-a-mac-with-only-8-gb-ram/

                        Game Legion, 31 Oct 2023You are at it again. Why are they charging $1600 for the ... moreAgain, some gamer (without any knowledge of tech) falling for the RAM trap.

                        I'm not going to explain any further, just read this article.
                        https://www.howtogeek.com/865066/its-okay-to-buy-a-mac-with-only-8-gb-ram/

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                          Anonymous, 31 Oct 2023I am a windows and android user, but I bought a MBP16 Why? ... moreis it true that your battery lasts 20 hours?

                          I know it's m, it has excellent batteries, but also the 20 hours from the ad is in ideal conditions without internals, the weakest light...

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                            Note to the editors: All your references to "Unified Storage" should be to "Unified Memory."

                              justasmile, 31 Oct 2023Anyway, there's many other bigger memory options, not ... moreYou are at it again.
                              Why are they charging $1600 for the 8GB when they could have obviously improved the hardware by adding at 4 — 8GB more? For that price buyers cannot install any more ram, rendering the PC useless in the long run (when ram bottlenecks and hardware begind to age)

                                potato4k, 31 Oct 2023LOL. They’re not optimized at all. In fact, 8GB RAM models ... moreAnyway, there's many other bigger memory options, not just 8gb.

                                  Lsi, 31 Oct 2023Notch on a laptop is fu**ing stupid! Whats up with that bs?Notch fetish

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                                    Russel, 31 Oct 2023My legion 5 pro with 3070ti ryzen 7 6800h 32GB 1TB cost jus... moreI own a 5600h rtx3700 regular legion and battery is way below average even completeley disabling the dedicated GPU

                                      justasmile, 31 Oct 2023Apple's software and apps are very optimised, they won... moreLOL. They’re not optimized at all. In fact, 8GB RAM models are frequently using the SSD for swap, ruining the SSD faster as well. In short, it’s all an attempt to force consumers to upgrade sooner in the future. Pathetic for a trillion dollar company to screw the consumer experience in the name of future purchases instead of simply making the best product.

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