The next Sony Xperia Pro is rumored to have a rotating camera ring

18 December 2023
The ring will give you manual control over zoom, aperture and focus, just like on a real camera.

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justasmile, 18 Dec 2023The Xperia Pro-I never managed to reach android 14 from and... moreSo? Rog 5 Ultimate was near the same price and also only got 2 updates, with a faulty version of A13. At least Xperia's won't brick on you.

    sony phone for enthusias user. they was produced in limited number and those willing to pay high price for the pro feature. Even sony not even 1 % from whole market share, their product always top quality . Im collecting old xperia phone since Z5,xz series until 5 mark ii .Next going to hunt 5 mark iii at second hand market. Even now im using s23 daily driver but sony phone always out from my pocket to show other that holding xperia phone will give confident in myself as succesful bussiness entrepreneur.

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      • 19 Dec 2023

      They should separate the pro series for actual photographers and make the flagships more mainstream with a better auto mode

        PhoneFreak45, 18 Dec 2023You are so blissfully ignorant as to what photographers act... moreHaha
        Sony phones with a good auto mode? Is that the deal now? Just a year ago everyone was saying that Sony phones are meant for manual control.

        Yeah, you could get better photos on the Xperia in manual mode but the image quality was still unusable.

        I use a7RIII and I had an Xperia 1 III for the 2 years it worked. The Xperia was absolutely useless as a phone, as a personal computer, as a video recorder, and as a camera. To give Xperias the 'alpha' brand is an insult to the amazing alpha cameras.

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          • 19 Dec 2023

          why not just focus on the camera instead of Phone. Phone should be phone just should have decent camera should be good enough.

            Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023Plastic will never properly replace glass. You dont see pl... moreSome of Canon's newer lenses have moulded plastic elements. RF 28mm F2.8 uses 3 of them and it's optically excellent, it's very sharp across the frame, and unlike many other lenses that use aspherical elements, the bokeh is surprisingly smooth too. The downside is that the lens does not feature an internal focusing design and shows pretty strong distortion, but these are compromises that had to be made in order to keep it incredibly thin and lightweight.

            Also, many eyeglasses (not for protection, but for correcting eyesight) nowadays use plastic because they do their job just fine and they don't get shattered when shock is applied. In fact, all of my glasses have plastic lenses.

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              IMX363, 19 Dec 2023Sony makes great sensors, great lenses, great phone hardwar... moreSony are indeed garbage in terms of camera software. They need to employ their actual photography team who work on their proper camera division.

                TheLastOracle, 18 Dec 2023I agree. The problem is that glass elements doing the same ... moreSmartphone manufacturers may need to start considering using more glass elements for improved flare resistance, but plastic definitely has its own advantages.

                For example: Canon's RF 28mm F2.8 lens uses a trio of very large moulded aspherical plastic elements (Called "Seagull lenses"), but it has a very commendable optical performance given its size, and the extensive use of plastic allowed them to make the whole lens light and compact while keeping the cost low at the same time.

                Also, good anti-reflection coating like Zeiss T* coating on Vivo's flagship phones also helps.

                  Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023What that means. You take photo on auto. Then you check ... more"Photography website rated pro-i with highest score among all phones they have ever tested. Above S23u and pixel 7 pro"

                  This is a funny statement coming from a person who doesn't believe in DxOMark, owned by the company that makes pro-grade photo editing software, releases custom correction profiles for hundreds of lenses, measures the sensor dynamic range of camera bodies and literally has a dedicated lab to test the smartphone cameras/audio/displays.

                    Sony makes great sensors, great lenses, great phone hardware. And yet, images from their phones always look like garbage.

                    Their software is terrible. And they only provide 1 or 2 years of updates. That does not cut it in the modern world. They need to replace their whole software team. Should provide 5 years of updates, minimum. Camera algorithm and apps needs to be modernised. But people have been saying this for years, nothing ever changes.

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                      Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023Since when has Sony ever used BOE panels? They're wide... moreAnd that is why their Mark 2 Xperia I and V will get green lines. They used the same defective panels from Samsung that were also used on the S20 line. What a mess.

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                        David 040882, 18 Dec 2023They don't know what other 'innovative' thin... moreImagine samsung that has copied things from xperia over the years.

                        By the way, if sony did not have patent for UDC in 2012, then no one would be using, since they would not have the idea to get .
                        Sony also has patent (2017) to use NFC as wireless charging. Let's see which OEM steals this idea first.

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                          CompactPhones5ever, 18 Dec 2023"Auto and manual give same results if you reproduce sa... moreWhat that means. You take photo on auto. Then you check exif data to see settings used and use same settings on manual mode, your results are same.
                          Auto and manual with exactly same iso and shutter speeds DO NOT give different results.
                          Texture, colours, noise etc ... All are going to be equal.

                          There is nothing wrong. As I have said, all other brands use HDR as default. Sony does not use.

                          Interesting the fact photographers like but ones that criticise are youtubers that can only repeat "details in the shadows".

                          Photography website rated pro-i with highest score among all phones they have ever tested. Above S23u and pixel 7 pro.
                          Explain.

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                            Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023You don't get the point.I do. You think employees responsible for cameras do not like to see cameras associated with xperia, when they are the ones associating alpha with xperia.

                            You dont get.

                              Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023Plastic will never properly replace glass. You dont see pl... moreI agree. The problem is that glass elements doing the same work as plastic, in smartphones, would likelu make then much larger. Also, plastic elements also probably have issues with anti-reflection. It's probably high time that smartphones finally move away from cheap plastic lens elements. I agree, thatits also an economics of acale and costing thing. Using plastic lens elements us also mostly a costing issue. Maybe a plastic glass hybrid?

                              I also wondef if higher bit depth in both the pipeline (AD) and processing will help improve photos, saving some of the smearing happening due to multi frame HDR.

                              Smartphone companies should add few mms in thickness to their smartphones, if it helps improve image quality noticeably.

                                RobinArc, 18 Dec 2023Same thinking. This is ridiculous that all manufacturers fo... moreSo it's not made for you. We get it. Is that supoosed to somehow invalidate everyone else who is the target demographic and loves the idea? Ridiculous.

                                  David 040882, 18 Dec 2023They don't know what other 'innovative' thin... moreYou don't know what innovation is if you think it's cramming yourself into a mold and iterating on that. Sony phones aren't made for you. Accept it, move on with your life, and stop calling things you don't understand a failure just because you're not the target demographic.

                                    Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023Sony phones are 100% a no go until they change their update... more"Oh naur only 2 years software update" did you seriously just spend 2K$ on a phone specifically designed to be a good camera and complain about software. Get a grip. Having A16 isn't gonna make a lick of difference to the purpose the phone was built for.

                                      Anonymous, 18 Dec 2023If they called it Xperia Pro-II, it would mean Xperia Pro I... moreWhy is it so hard to understand roman numerals lmao. If the I in Pro-I stands for imaging, then obviously the next Pro-I, will be the Pro-I ii, indicitating mark 2. Roman numerals. Very simple.

                                        kevinmcmurtrie, 18 Dec 2023I bet Sony's alpha camera department doesn't like... moreYou are so blissfully ignorant as to what photographers actually want. Auto mode is a joke. Real photographers know that and don't bash phones without a good auto mode.

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