Leak shows that HMD might be working on a camera-focused Lumia 1020 revival
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
jiyen235, 03 Sep 2024it's not possible to make a great camera phone without... moreYeah puny little sensor for telephoto is peak form over function
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- jiyen235
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024I dare you to make cam combo like x100 ultra, while avoidi... moreit's not possible to make a great camera phone without a huge bump.
My point is they're giving a HORRIBLE camera for the price. If the 1 VI was 700 dollars it'd be a great phone but it isn't that cheap. Get outta here
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024K Zoom has 20.7MP 1/2.3" .. Variant of sensor used by ... moreman if you're that stupid anon who talks about outlandish buzz off.
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- 03 Sep 2024
Ibn Batuta, 03 Sep 2024Only if NOKIA had shifted to Android or had improved Symbia... moreOr if nokia used meego os, now the people behind it call it now sailfish os
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- 03 Sep 2024
Please make this phone like nokia 1520, width 85 not 75 or 76 as they use today and make the screen 6.9 inch. A lot of people will buy it. I have stil the nokia 1520 in red
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- 03 Sep 2024
"The 108+50+13MP setup of the Skyline certainly has solid hardware"
lol. That cheap 108mp HM6 sensor is not solid hardware. The only phone that has ever managed decent-ish photos out of it was the infinix zero 30. (Still overall bad in low light).
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- Dave Granger
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- 03 Sep 2024
Oh my Gaaaaaaawd!
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- Ibn Batuta
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- 03 Sep 2024
Only if NOKIA had shifted to Android or had improved Symbian....The world would have been so different
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
jiyen235, 03 Sep 2024hmm that sounds outlandish honestly lol like that huge lens... moreK Zoom has 20.7MP 1/2.3" .. Variant of sensor used by Sony Z phones.
While current xperia uses 1/3.5 portion of 40mp 1/1.7 sensor. It would do better if sensor was native 12mp bayer.
Can't compare.
Non-periscope zoom is too big. Phone like that today would not sell even 50.000, no matter if priced same of A35.
Lumia 808 shoots 38MP 4:3 mode, downsizing to 5mp to hide noise and artifact. Same trick later used by Sony ( 20.7 or 23mp to 8mp).
At something like 78mm equivalent, you have about 4 - 4,5mp. Reason ppl could not see difference between 1x and 3x.
Convenience of what xperia has is to keep resolution ( photo and videos) across entire range without any upscaling.
Just as curiosity, sony zv-1 with 24-70mm lens, the bump is about 20mm when retracted.
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- Ellen Dale
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- 03 Sep 2024
Please do not ruin something that is timeless
The fact that it was one and only in itself is what makes it precious
DO NOT RUIN IT
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- jiyen235
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- 03 Sep 2024
Darth Caesium, 03 Sep 2024I long for the day when 24MP or 32MP is a standard resoluti... morehmm that sounds outlandish honestly lol like that huge lens and zoom range thing.
Anyways I think yeah, hi-res cameras nowadays are unnecessary on phones, I don't get the appeal really. Like especially for cameraphones. I wish there was a prototype kind of phone where we get hi-res cameras without having Binning down in mind as the only target, that'd be a cool example that we could see yk about how far phone photography can go.
What Sony has tried with the variable zoom is cool and all but it just is not the same as native zooming capabilities that the Galaxy K Zoom for example had, I'd go so far as to say even the Lumia 1020 would've destroyed the Sony in terms of zoom quality if they were both 3x.
Take a look at "WillitbeatNokia?", they had some amazing videos but sadly don't make videos any more it seems. I just hope RAW photography in modern day cameraphones is at least as good as the Lumia 1020 cus the auto mode at least to me seems super processed looking still. Only the Xiaomi 14 Ultra and Oppo Find X7 Ultra can take somewhat natural looking images imo. I love Vivo and all but I always have a thing for natural images. If there were a way to have both Vivo's auto mode processing and a toggle for Oppo/Xiaomi style more realistic-ish processing then that'd be the dream phone for me rn. X100 Ultra's zoom lens, 14 Ultra's main lens (variable aperture included) and the Find X6 Pro's UW cam. The X100 Ultra already has some super cool features like tweakable global parameters like sharpening and stuff (Look at Jermaine's video on the X100 Ultra).
Idk man I think the smartphone market is scattered af rn, we need something good. And I think videography is being forgotten, we need consistently good videos with good metering. I love the Xperia/Xiaomi phones' videos but some lighting changes can really mess up their quality and they just don't look as pleasing as a result. Only setting a locked exposure helps them. Smartphones are still a ways away from being able to replace dedicated cams.
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- HorriblyMadeDevices
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- 03 Sep 2024
Mark my words it will be just another flop.
Even Chinese smartphones have 50 mpx (or better) on ALL cameras.
Pathetic to see 13 mpx in 2025 on a camera-centric smartphone.
Typical HMD DOA landfill trash.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024And how many don't use dcg even though sensors they us... moreOnly 2 sensors have dcg hdr.
And that does not improve reaout speeds.
Sensors need more advanced ADC or DRAM layer.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
jiyen235, 03 Sep 2024Or worse, they could be charging 1500 euros for flagship ki... moreI dare you to make cam combo like x100 ultra, while avoiding the massive bump. It cannot be more than 2mm thickness while the phone itself has no more than 8.5mm.
Go teach sony and Samsung how to do it.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024Flagship SoCs often have the best ISP. Most midrange ISPs d... more60fps is just different purpose.
It does not improve quality over 24 , 25 or 30.
Each framerate has its own use.
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- Cpt.Power
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- 03 Sep 2024
Well lets see.
Would love to see a Nokia 9 pureview successor with best out of the best everything. CPU and GPU front and back camera 32GB ram 2-4 or 8TB memory etc.
Something trully grandmasterpiece like was a concept of a Monolith Chacconne back in 2016 which was expected to be released back then but unfortunately company or startup project ended before first units were made.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024Flagship SoCs often have the best ISP. Most midrange ISPs d... moreWhat might have drowned a bit in my comment is that of course, a mid range SoC is appropriate in a mid range priced device. But you can’t act like there is no advantage to a high end SoC, because there is even for those who don’t game. And it increases longevity as well.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2024What I find weird is a lot of people wanting this phone to ... moreFlagship SoCs often have the best ISP. Most midrange ISPs don’t even do 4K60. And flagship SoCs have the most advanced nodes, and larger cores driven at low frequencies are more efficient than small cores driven at high frequencies. And there is much more to an SoC than those areas I mentioned. There‘s no way around it, an SoC is the most important component of a phone because it combines so many smaller components. That is even more true with smartwatches that use SiPs.
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- 03 Sep 2024
YUKI93, 03 Sep 2024I have a Lumia 1020 in my drawer, and I can easily agree ab... moreSensor quality is the main reason. High res sensor that is made with the high megapixel counts in mind just made it a banger camera.
Besides, no one really talks about the flash. Only Apple seems to have invested in better flash modules in recent years. I don't think Apple's Pro series flash is better than the Xenon one but I do think they aren't worse either, they're both great in their own way. We need better flash modules in phones as well. I hope Chinese manufacturers talk with those big camera companies and get a cool flash like Nokia did, I mean Zeiss and Vivo are literally buddies now, ain't no way they can't get a cool flash.
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- 03 Sep 2024
Literally when the designers lack common sense.