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  • Enzo Maldini
  • pHu
  • 17 Nov 2010

snonre, 17 Nov 2010as far as i know, the n8 uses the Broadcom BCM2727 gpu whic... moreExcuse me using quotes constantly. Englsh isn't my natal language and I find this formula easier for me.

"as far as i know, the n8 uses the Broadcom BCM2727 gpu which is one of the best in the market"

You are right, but still it's worse than iPhones's and Samsung Galaxy S. You can see it by pure stats, by looking the same game running on different phones and... have you seen U3 Engine running in the iPhone 4 or Rage? It blows away PSP and N3DS graphics. Well, even someone at Nintendo told N3DS couldn't run it.

"its quite good for a 1200mah battery, try to find another smartphone with the same battery capasity that can last as long as the n8."

What do you care, how does your battery perform against its spec or how long does it last in the real world? You look like you want to make a crime of Apple and Samsung for including a superior battery.

"And symbian^3 will also get a whole ui rewrite in the future, things like this need time man, you dont just expect to get a great os from the start itself?"

I agree with this and I hope things get well done, but the "big-bang" isn't now with the N8, it was long ago with the 5800. Since then, they are playing the catching game.

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    • Nameless
    • mJd
    • 17 Nov 2010

    Oh, almost forgot! I didn't say YOU were a troll, I was talking in general....just so you know...

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      • Nameless
      • mJd
      • 17 Nov 2010

      Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Whats wrong with the GPU?" It falls behind th... more"An underpowered phone with nice features and an old buggy software. Even GSM Arena says Symbian has some distance to catch. They didn't even compare it to high-end phones at the end of their review."
      So, is it your opinion that this is a high end phone? Its mid range but it just so happens to nibble off some of those high-enders but hey, all is fair in love and war, right?

      I do the same tests on every phone so I can make comparisons. I repeat: N8's battery performance is poor. If you don't believe this, check comparing battery life tests online. In this web page there's even one.
      http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/nokia-n8-692448/review in the product summery its stated 'superb battery life'
      http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-n8-battery-test-results-are-out-good-but-not-the-best/ 'good but not the best' I failed to see the word 'poor' in the blog, only in your post here...
      http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370701,00.asp 'strong battery life' and the phone got only 2.5/5.
      Do you need more? May I have a link that proves your 'poor' statement?

      "Whats wrong with the GPU?"
      It falls behind the competition. Do some research.
      Um, don't know, could also post some links but the general consensus is that there are no noticeable differences when you play the same games on N8 and iphone4. How can you say it falls behind...? Any links, please?

      You take way too much of my time man...I'll reply tomorrow. Cheers!

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        • snonre
        • tuh
        • 17 Nov 2010

        N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010Gitty do you have one??? I do, you could jailbreak the i... morejailbreaking gives you all the features? Tell me, does jailbreaking improve the signal strength, give it a memory card slot, give it true multitasking, give it a fm radio, etc, etc, etc.

        Btw, jailbreaking voids your waranty so if your iphone4 is screwed, you are screwed too.

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          • Gitty
          • s8e
          • 17 Nov 2010

          N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010you are the 4 person that talk about sh.... and can't denie... moreYeah iphone has double than N8 !
          24mp camera with 2xenon flash :D
          price is almost twice than the N8
          yeah ,the problems of iphne is also double than the N8

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            • N8 sucks
            • R18
            • 17 Nov 2010

            Gitty do you have one???

            I do, you could jailbreak the iphone and by doing it all of the stuff that you say is not true any more.
            for this reason I said the all the negative score that iphone has is from people that have never seen or touch an iphone.

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              • Gitty
              • upf
              • 17 Nov 2010

              N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010How is possible that the N8 has a better calification than ... moreWow,iphone4 is too costly,read this-
              Main disadvantages of iPhone 4
              - Hardware design is prone to reception issues
              - MicroSIM card support only
              - No Flash support in the web browser
              - No true multitasking for all applications
              - FaceTime video calls work only over Wi-Fi
              - No file transfer over Bluetooth or USB Mass
              Storage mode
              - No hardware shutter key for the camera
              - No FM radio
              - No stereo speakers
              - No microSD card slot
              - No smart dialing
              - Too dependent on iTunes for loading
              multimedia content
              - Poor loudspeaker performance

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                • NoiseMakerBaker
                • 3DR
                • 17 Nov 2010

                Android might have 50% market share, but not a single person has shown me an app on Android, that I want that isn't available for Symbian v3 or even IOS4.

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                  • N8 sucks
                  • R18
                  • 17 Nov 2010

                  you are the 4 person that talk about sh.... and can't denied the things that I used as a real probe. The iphone 4 has a 1420mAh battery that is more than the n8 battery. the symbian os is dying. Iphone has almost the doble of processor and memory and the batery works more time than n8 one. so the screen on the iphone is much more better than the n8 one. take all of this on count when you say something about battery life.

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                    • David891
                    • 3T9
                    • 17 Nov 2010

                    N8 sucks, 17 Nov 2010How is possible that the N8 has a better calification than ... moreOn paper the iPhone4 maybe has better video recording but if you compare video's, N8 is much better.
                    And battery of iPhone4 is bigger, but N8 can last double of the time of iPhone 4. So don't come up with facts that are not true..

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                      • Enzo Maldini
                      • pHu
                      • 17 Nov 2010

                      Gitty, 17 Nov 2010Yes,symbian^3 is the new os but the same old UI ( s60v5) an... moreYou are right and I really hope they do a great job with it. The problem is you can only make one first impression. Nokia would need to launch a new phone with the update so they can make a market changing impact. Today, Android is eating Symbian's market share at an alarming rate.

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                        • Kingsley
                        • fmv
                        • 17 Nov 2010

                        David891, 16 Nov 20101 question to N8 owners. There is a red LED light which bu... moreThe red light is used partly to provide illumination for the camera autofocus to work when the light level is low. However the primary reason for the red light and camera sound when taking pictures or videos is to prevent anyone from secretly taking pictures. In many countries is is mandatory for cameras to have these features. I doubt if Nokia will remove the red light or silence the camera sound.

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                          • snonre
                          • tuh
                          • 17 Nov 2010

                          Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Whats wrong with the GPU?" It falls behind th... moreas far as i know, the n8 uses the Broadcom BCM2727 gpu which is one of the best in the market. And as for battery life, its quite good for a 1200mah battery, try to find another smartphone with the same battery capasity that can last as long as the n8. You could also enable the power saver mode 2 increase ur battery life.

                          Yeah, symbian^3 is still in its infancy stage so there is still some bugs in it, still remember the 1st version of android? Also nokia plans for over 50 changes for symbian^3 in the next major update coming soon in early 2011. And symbian^3 will also get a whole ui rewrite in the future, things like this need time man, you dont just expect to get a great os from the start itself?

                          Ps to the post above you - STFU, ur just a hater who follows other people but have no original idea and talk bullshit. The n97 was the past man, let go over it already. Nokia is improving but you're too blind 2 see it

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                            • N8 sucks
                            • R18
                            • 17 Nov 2010

                            How is possible that the N8 has a better calification than the iphone 4??? lest processor, less memory, less quality video recording, less quality screen, less aplications, less battery, much more pretty the iphone 4.
                            It means that the calification on this page is less than ridiculous. a lot of jealous people vote against the iphone because then could never have one and they have to buy this n8.

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                              • Gitty
                              • s8e
                              • 17 Nov 2010

                              Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Whats wrong with the GPU?" It falls behind th... moreYes,symbian^3 is the new os but the same old UI ( s60v5) and some problems,bugs! Symbian^4 is nice,new UI & it is coming to N8 !

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                                • Enzo Maldini
                                • pHu
                                • 17 Nov 2010

                                Anonymous, 17 Nov 2010Dude these die hard Symbian fans will never accept facts un... moreI can tell you by first hand Nokia knows they are screwing. They could admit that after a succesful MeeGo model or a huge Symbian update.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • nID
                                  • 17 Nov 2010

                                  Enzo Maldini, 17 Nov 2010"Btw, the n8 is a higher mid-range phone but the specs... moreDude these die hard Symbian fans will never accept facts until Nokia themselves come out and admit that the phone is actually not up to standards ala N97, same people defended that phone even after the Nokia dude came out and said what he said about it. It's pure funboy mentality, problem is there's too many of them that's why Nokia keeps producing crap after crap.

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                                    • Enzo Maldini
                                    • pHu
                                    • 17 Nov 2010

                                    Nameless, 17 Nov 2010"Check CPU, GPU, RAM ammount and bandwidth, screen res... more"Whats wrong with the GPU?"

                                    It falls behind the competition. Do some research.

                                    "And whats the whole picture exactly?"

                                    An underpowered phone with nice features and an old buggy software. Even GSM Arena says Symbian has some distance to catch. They didn't even compare it to high-end phones at the end of their review.

                                    "Can the iPhone last a full day with its specs? Yes, several in fact. Can the N8? Also. Depends how you use the device. The but the statement 'battery on the N8 is poor' is lame without a comparison of what you did to drain it."

                                    I do the same tests on every phone so I can make comparisons. I repeat: N8's battery performance is poor. If you don't believe this, check comparing battery life tests online. In this web page there's even one.

                                    "Please don't state narrow minded 'facts' by looking at the specs sheet alone and its pretentious to think you can judge a device by it"

                                    Even if I stated "narrow minded facts", you have to agree with my first post being longer than most. There's simply not the place to detail everything and elaborate. I judge it based in two months of usage and extensive testing.

                                    "You can bash any product as much as you like but at the end of the day it still remains a product."

                                    I totally agree with this. I think the N8 is a very competing product indeed, but it just can´t win.

                                    "There are far better ways to spend your time on this planet then, say, replying to a troller, like I'm doin' right now. Oh, wait... :)"

                                    I fail to see the logic of calling me a troll. It seems having a solid opinion is known as trolling now.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • jst
                                      • 17 Nov 2010

                                      Warning: If you dont want co-workers and friends swarming you to look at your pohone, dont buy the N8. They just cant stay away or just walk by without taking a look. Some approach me saying they heard about my phone. There are numerous blackberrys and iphones around but man! Is the N8 phenominal or what?

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                                        • Sails
                                        • ntg
                                        • 17 Nov 2010

                                        snonre, 17 Nov 2010awesome post man. sometimes i wonder when haters and trolle... moreIt is quite simple. Large part of the trolls are little kids with their first smartphones and it must be the best phone in the world because that is the one the parents bought.

                                        They have no actual facts or experience so the messages are 100% childish belief. Hopefully at least some of them understand and learn from the replies.

                                        Sadly there are also some paid trollers like "fujapa" who did a serious copypaste fail on Yahoo Nokia forums few weeks past. He had some article copypasted into notepad or something and he had also started writing an e-mail in the same space. He did copy paste and posted the message to the forums... Here is the end of the copypaste:

                                        """
                                        Hello,

                                        I am a bit confused about your mail. You said that it is possible to increase my fee but you have not paid my fee at all since then? Someone will get 12 times more than me in Mumbai area. I can change the job if my money does not appear.

                                        I am cheap but people listen to me and sell stocks by my messages so I am worth every dollar.
                                        """

                                        I really hope he got screwed.