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  • 03 Jun 2010

Mark, 03 Jun 2010Hi There, Great post, lots of detail, no swearing. Looks... more+1 for you . nice post :)

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    • vrA
    • 03 Jun 2010

    [deleted post]myself also gave 10 10 10.

    i ll be giving 10 10 10, till i get the actual rating of 9.0 9.1 9.1.
    thats the rating when 25k voters were there, then came the vote attack

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      • PIZ
      • 03 Jun 2010

      OH MY GOD!!!, 03 Jun 2010What the heck of this spec., Symbian OS?? still in Jurassic... moreSo damn true pal.. android is the best. Symbian should be gone years ago..

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        • mby
        • 03 Jun 2010

        KSR, 03 Jun 2010I am really happy about Nokia after a long time.. Becos ... moreHi There,

        Great post, lots of detail, no swearing. Looks like the thread is clean again! :)

        Ill try to answer your questions, if you allow me:


        1. How smooth the high resolution videos can be played with ARM 11 680MHz CPU?? Is GPU really gonna play crucial role in video playback??

        The N8 was made to be good at exactly this. The GPU will play a central role in all things graphical, it being the rendering of effects, games, video, you name it. So, it is certain it will play a crucial role. The smoothness you will have to check for yourself when it comes out. I can tell you I find it very smooth, but it is subjective. Try it.

        2. I had serious issues with N85 as it failed to deliver properly; its highly advertised TV-out by Nokia in those days. Need to see how good N8 behaves with HDMI output; given its slow processor (again subjective)

        Good point. I think Nokia have learned from their mistakes. They are not overpromising I feel, and the HDMI works pretty well, even though as already mentioned below the video is not there anymore. The slow processor, is actually not so slow for S^3, and even better, the CPU is currently underclocked, and can be made faster through firmware, if necessary.

        3. I really don't care if the loud speaker is dual or stereo or whatever.. It should give enough volume and clear sound with bass on par with 5800 XM. Can't jump to conclusion till it is released.

        I have NO idea on how it will sound, I just know that the parts used for the sound system in the device are very high standard. Added to that, it has a seperate dolby surround system for HDMI out, but I dont know much about that. Class D is also what I read.

        4. Need to see how much scratch and smudge resistant are the N8 camera lens, its screen and the body itself.

        No worries, according to Damian Dinning, the lens is extremely scratch proof and has been tortured to test this in a device called the tumbler. Smudge proof I dont know, dont think anything is really smudge proof.


        5. And the most important of all.. how much economic is the S^3 & N8's h/w in terms of power consumption; given the battery's relatively lower capacity.

        Like the processor, I think the battery is a not too well understood choice for the N8. Spec indicate 50 (!) hours of playback with that battery.

        Like processor speed & phone speed, battery capacity & battery life are not perfectly correlated.

        Go test one out!

        As a bonus for everyone:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZLVoomj9pQ

        A rally game. Not optimized for N8 at all but still runs decently. Later you see bounce evolution, and that runs better on the N8 than on my N900, which has an cortex A8 & 600 mhz.

        Now, when optimized, the experience is much better, look at the screenshots in the article below:

        http://mynokiablog.com/2010/05/28/pics-nokia-n8-spotted-again-at-openmobile-and-showing-off-3d-gaming-with-need-for-speed-shift-and-sims-3/

        N8 will be, at the very least, the best gaming phone by far from Nokia ever.

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          • OH MY GOD!!!
          • IaH
          • 03 Jun 2010

          What the heck of this spec., Symbian OS?? still in Jurassic period?? Cmon., Samsung Galaxy was already released., the Galaxy S packs 1GHz Hummingbird CPU, 512MB RAM, 2GB ROM, 8/16GB internal storage, 5 megapixel camera with 720p video recording, HD DivX/XviD playback, all-round connectivity and Android OS v2.2 froyo skinned with TouchWiz 3.0… need to catch up Nokia.. really need to catch up..

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            • Anonymous
            • sxt
            • 03 Jun 2010

            this phone copied the looks of aino :(

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              • PIZ
              • 03 Jun 2010

              Anonymous, 03 Jun 2010weird... why are u reply to your own question my friend? h... morei work for a company that sells htc devices in indonesia.. i didn't notice they have a code below.. well, guess i'm silly.. sorry pal.. haha. =)

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                • qCW
                • 03 Jun 2010

                KSR, 03 Jun 2010I am really happy about Nokia after a long time.. Becos ... moreAs the saying goes, actions speak louder than words, but unfortunately the videos I was going to post (http://dailymobile.se/2010/04/30/nokia-n8-tv-out-demo-hdmi/) showing real time usage of the HDMI feature on the Nokia N8 is no longer available. I assure you though, the playback on his HD television was very smooth and yes, the GPU really does make a difference.

                Regarding the single mono speaker on the Nokia N8, it has a Class D Amplifier so you can expect loud and clear audio.

                Nokia Symbian devices has a long record of being battery consumption friendly. The hardware/energy consumption ratio is maximized for the best performance possible. Of course it all boils down to you as the user and how much you use the device.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • s8Y
                  • 03 Jun 2010

                  [deleted post]i put 10 10 10 knowingly... i will repeat it :-)

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                    • KSR
                    • PFA
                    • 03 Jun 2010

                    I am really happy about Nokia after a long time..

                    Becos they are now at least TRYING to give their beloved customers what they want exactly..

                    See N8 ::: An amazing gadget!! (Don't know whether to call it a phone anymore!! It has got ALMOST everything a funky electronic accessory need to have at reasonable price and real capabilities which are more than just a showoff toy .. sorry Apple)

                    But yes.. it is NOT what can be called THE ULTIMATE, as almost everybody seems to have missed at least one of their sweet feature and keep dreaming to have that as well just to jump into the bandwagon to buy this once the baby is out.

                    Anyways, it is not possible to satisfy everybody with everything they need in such a little (subjective) bar, Nokia is at least trying their best.


                    I am suggesting ""MY"" N8 below:

                    5 or 8MP cam is enough instead of 12MP
                    Dual LED flash for video rec
                    Better UI looks out of the box (especially with main menu)
                    Discard USB port as it is not a TRUE OTG
                    DIVX/XVID support out of the box
                    Strong and Clear loud Speaker even if it is a mono (no need of dual speakers)
                    1500mAh battery


                    I am excited about the following set of features:

                    Exotic looks
                    Big Cam lens
                    Xenon flash
                    GPU
                    AMOLED display
                    Multi touch support
                    720p vid rec


                    I am little skeptical with these:

                    1. How smooth the high resolution videos can be played with ARM 11 680MHz CPU?? Is GPU really gonna play crucial role in video playback??

                    2. I had serious issues with N85 as it failed to deliver properly; its highly advertised TV-out by Nokia in those days. Need to see how good N8 behaves with HDMI output; given its slow processor (again subjective)

                    3. I really don't care if the loud speaker is dual or stereo or whatever.. It should give enough volume and clear sound with bass on par with 5800 XM. Can't jump to conclusion till it is released.

                    4. Need to see how much scratch and smudge resistant are the N8 camera lens, its screen and the body itself.

                    5. And the most important of all.. how much economic is the S^3 & N8's h/w in terms of power consumption; given the battery's relatively lower capacity.


                    I also want to suggest Nokia (even though they can't listen and act on somebody's suggestion opinion from GSMArena)

                    U have got to make few std. devices with gr8 looks at all price ranges. I think N8 is first Nokia's creation I am loving for its looks rather than the feature hype surrounding it. I think these days tech. is changing faster than fashion ... ummm... ok ok .. at least in Mobile industry. There are companies that are coming up with optical zoom, projector and who knows may be even refrigerator as well in future) on mobiles. So cant believe the expiry date of any new technical innovation. But the first thing that comes is the looks of ur gadget which wouldn't be out dated so fast as technology.

                    Just see Sammy and their marketing strategy. In India (where I live), until few months back, people seldom believed any mobile company other than Nokia. For them Nokia == Mobile phone. But now Samsung have done magic with their marketing capabilities and Corby!! Yes, even though Corby scores less in terms of performance when compared to the other mobiles around.. the looks have made brand Corby a big success. Samsung then launched variants in Corby and tasted profits. So just hoping Nokia takes this (handset looks) seriously and work it out.

                    And one more thing, they just need to leave the obsession with their very own Symbian and think out-of-the-box. Either make the UI trendy or bow before Andriod to accept it (latter isn't a good alternative in my opinion).


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                      • Anonymous
                      • tjF
                      • 03 Jun 2010

                      [deleted post]I do not usually comment on others writing skill as i myself is not that good at all.

                      But i find it very hard to understand the points for almost every posts of yours.

                      Well, u are welcome to post in this topic whether your opinion is a negative or positive one.
                      As i said before, a great phone deserve like 10 pages of posts a day. Thanks to you :)
                      And people who likes this phone will still buy it regardless of how bad is the post or rating.

                      You and your friend also helped breaks a record for the daily interest for this phone.

                      btw.. i think the ovi map really helpful to people who have bad sense of direction like me. ohh... i just love the phone and wonder when it will be available :)

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                        • 03 Jun 2010

                        Anonymous, 03 Jun 2010Symbian 4 is something MUCH better! i wait for this...And its not too far from release. its coming early next year! Nokia backing 90% of development of Symbian 4 even though its open sourse, it makes sense that Nokia is serious about it and would give Android a damn.

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                          • 03 Jun 2010

                          Ajinkya, 03 Jun 2010Wait! Symbian 4 is a lot different in UI. Its a whole new i... moreSymbian 4 is something MUCH better!
                          i wait for this...

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                            • 03 Jun 2010

                            Mish, 03 Jun 2010I've always liked Nokia and Sony Ericsson. European quality... moreWait! Symbian 4 is a lot different in UI. Its a whole new interface coming in Symbian 4. And MeeGo is already being appreciated for UI. And now its not just Nokia, its a Nokia + Intel!

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                              • 03 Jun 2010

                              I've always liked Nokia and Sony Ericsson. European quality, great design, and great RF (Why not, Nokia and Ericsson invented GSM!). But i'm worried about Nokia's fate. Albeit they are still #1 in market share people are jumping ship away from them. They slacked on the touch screen for too long, and they are still using Symbian... Which may be still the #1 most used smartphone OS, but lacks many apps and looks dated and bland. Nokia owns Symbian, ok, fine... But, its time to go Android. Its free for Nokia to install, its well supported and almost fully matured as an OS. (I'm on 1.6, still some piss offs... Alarm clock needs phone to be on, x10 has to be on when charging, call log sucks etc.) But its all minor... Just like WinMo 6.1, now at 6.5 fully mature, just too buggy lol.

                              But Go Nokia, move on up, use Android or that Maemo you made for the N900 and show us Revolutionary again!

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                                • 03 Jun 2010

                                Anonymous, 03 Jun 2010what are you talk? to care about galaxy, wave or iphone or... moreDo you have numbers to prove that? Nokia actually held marketshare year on year and increased market share quarter on quarter. They are doing this without a phone like the N8, and an old N97 flagship, and a not for your average consumer N900.

                                That is pretty impressive.

                                They also make 1 Billion dollars a quarter on phones. Only Apple make more from phones, and SE, Samsung and LG regularly struggle to make money from their phone divisions.

                                So, not true.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • kx%
                                  • 03 Jun 2010

                                  @ Nokia fans, 03 Jun 2010So true, All Nokia haters can let the vote down but cant le... morewhat are you talk?
                                  to care about galaxy, wave or iphone or some...
                                  point is... Nokia going down!

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                                    • KFQ
                                    • 03 Jun 2010

                                    Mark, 03 Jun 2010Actually, we should have civilized and informed discussion ... moreThats a true Nokia fan. Sorry for my post Now I realize my faults. We are Nokia fans and we should be civilized unlike Nokia haters who only talk like a mindless men. Nice to meet you. Cheers

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                                      • mby
                                      • 03 Jun 2010

                                      @ Nokia fans, 03 Jun 2010So true, All Nokia haters can let the vote down but cant le... moreActually, we should have civilized and informed discussion here, and leave others with their preferences. If they want to downrank the N8, let them. The N8 already has more votes and views than many other phones, it is not even out yet.

                                      I say, we try to find as much relevant information as possible, and share. If we like the N8, why would we spend time somewhere else? ;)

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                                        • KFQ
                                        • 03 Jun 2010

                                        Anonymous, 03 Jun 2010The rating click rates of this phone model alone is convinc... moreSo true, All Nokia haters can let the vote down but cant let down the daily interest. See it is still 94%. While all their beloved crappy phones have less than 30% daily interest. All Nokia haters cant accept N8 is the best multimedia phone so they are trying to decrease the votes.
                                        To all Nokia fans:
                                        we should not be silent. If N8 dont deserves high votes than no other phone also. We should also decrease the votes of Samsung Wave, Galaxy S, Beam and all other Non Nokia phone which have higher votes than 8.5 Then all these Nokia haters will realize their faults.