Nokia N80
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- digit
- M@9
- 02 Feb 2006
The phone is available in Switzerland. You can find 3-4 phones in every mobile phone shop
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- Lorna
- MF{
- 02 Feb 2006
Hey people, the release of this phone will be in APRIL!!!! I also think curious should get a life, he just repeats himself all the time, say something new!! xx
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- ac
- TS{
- 02 Feb 2006
curious:
Just wondering why you keep double posting. Anyway to answer your question below
"why did nokia create dvb-h if there is a cheaper 3G?..."
There are many possibilities which I assume, since I not tied with nokia nor working for them so I won't able to provide you with the correct 1. Just my opinion
1) nokia wanted to join the crowd and be 1st in the gsm phone to provide such function. Such tv streaming is already available in some japan and korea cdma phone for quite some time.
2) another example which similiar to what you ask. Why nokia build phone with both 3g and edge support in the same phone? Answer to provide more option and choices to the consumer. 3g service is more expensive compare to edge service, at least for me.
So more advanced doesn't mean it has to be cheaper. And on the current utms 3g network, the download speed is only around 10kb+ faster compare to edge, which actually won't be much noticeable while for surfing purpose and mail retrieval service. So unless someone can tell me that dvb-h service is totally foc, I still won't comment that it will be cheaper compare to 3g video streaming since I really got no idea bout it
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- louie
- TS{
- 02 Feb 2006
If you are still able to hold on to your current phone, I would advice you to wait patiently for the n80. Phone price is always droping when new product released especially 2nd hand phone.
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- curious!!!!
- PxB
- 02 Feb 2006
to ac....
And regarding dvd-h tv receiver comparing to 3g tv streaming, I don't think 3g video is expensive since my phone telco offering free video packages for 3g subscribers for the 1st month. And charges of video package which includes different channel will cost from around usd2.00 to usd4.00 depends on which package you choose. So I don't think the charges for 3g video streaming is very expensive since you can select those channel which you needed only. Where as for dvb, I not sure how good is their availability worldwide, and I not sure whether their service is free or not as well. Maybe there are dvd users here in this forum who can provide me with answer? At least this service is not available for me within this year which I am quite sure of it 8). The build in tv receiver is indeed something advance, but when you can't utilize it, it just equal to not existing.
----- yes your right that if you can't utilize the technology then it's equal to not existing... my point is that i'm only STATING the advancements of n92(whether it will or will not be utilized).
I also didn't say that TV over 3g is expensive... what have i told is that it will be "MORE EXPENSIVE" than TV over dvb-h... in other words (for me not to use the word "expensive") TV over DVB-H may be CHEAPER than in 3G... I have told this because it will be LESS possible for nokia to create a new technology wherein the new technology may be more expensive than the existing technology. follow up question there would be--- why did nokia create dvb-h if there is a cheaper 3G?...
"And regarding the gaming section, honestly do you think is that worth your hard earn cash for it? Both n92 and n80 would not be cheap when release. If someone really into gaming, I think a psp of nds would be better with a wider range of game support and cheaper price"
---- I'm just comparing the gaming performance of n80 and n92... im not sayin that i will buy n92 just because it's has nice gaming performance... your right that it's better to buy PSP or DS,because it's really dedicated for gaming and it's cheap compared to a mobile with the same capability...
feel free to express your opinions... i will be open...
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- curious!!!!
- PxB
- 02 Feb 2006
to alex....
"I disagree with this. What does it matter what the phone can do on the paper, when it doesn't practically work? How the phone will do in reality is the ONLY thing that is important. It's like having hardware in your phone which cannot be accessed. Theres no point at all"
------yes, you have told it... i didn't actually say that n92 is better(for me,overall,n80 is in fact better than n92-subjective). my concern is that... "technically speaking" nokia n92 wins, whether every "hardware" in the n92 cannot be accessed or can be accessed, the point there is nokia placed more "hardwares" in n92 than n80 despite that the hardwares it has been placed in n92 seems to be almost useless.
thats why it's more expensive..
on the side of n80,n80 may have less features in paper(than in n92) but those features are really helpful & important to most people.
in short n92 has "more" features
(but some may be useless)in paper, and nokia n80 may have less(but all of those are important,and helpful)
"16m is 60 times better than 256k, so therefor the resolution must be 60 times higher to make up for it? That's just silly and you know it! If that's how you want it... I could say that N92 takes pictures with 1,920,000 pixels (1600x1200) while N80 takes pictures with 3,145,728 pixels (2048x1536). That must mean that N80's camera is 1,225,728 times better than N92's camera!! But of course it isn't! You cant make comparisons like that. It just doesn't make any sense"
----- hey do you know what is proportion??? the one you have done is only subtraction! if thats how you compute, then it must also mean that 16M is 15,999,744
times better than 256k...
may i just ask you one question... which is more comfortable for "MOST" gamers, coarse-pixeled colorful 2.8 screen OR fine-pixeled not so colorful 2.1 screen??? i guess most gamers will choose coarse-pixeled colorful
2.8 screen!!! why??? because they'll be squinting in the 2.1 screen!!! and by the way, do gamers need so fine pixeled screen??? n92's pixels are just average for gaming, so it doesn't mean it will have a very pixelated graphics.---that holds true in the case of gameboy advance and n-gage qd... gameboy advance has coarse pixeled but big screen, and qd has fine pixeled but small screen... so gameboy had won because gamers are more comfortable with the easeness of big screen than squinting in qd...
fine pixels are just next to size of the screen and colors when it comes to "GAMING".
anyway,it's only ones choice whether what phone to buy...
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- marklover
- kb5
- 02 Feb 2006
i love you more...post more specs about this phone LOL
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- Alexx
- nrk
- 01 Feb 2006
Curious:
"16 million colors from 256k may not be as great as 352 x 416 from 240 x 320 according from you. the point there is a phone's features' advantages is not determined by how a user sees the improvement, but should be determined by how much "technically" it improved. again, 256k to 16M colors improvement may not be seen so much important in ones eye, 240 x 320 to 416 x 352 is then better according from you, but you should take it into a logical way... meaning if the colors increase by 60 times then the resolution must also increase by 60 times in order to be equal(regardless of how our eyes see the improvement.)"
I disagree with this. What does it matter what the phone can do on the paper, when it doesn't practically work? How the phone will do in reality is the ONLY thing that is important. It's like having hardware in your phone which cannot be accessed. Theres no point at all.
16m is 60 times better than 256k, so therefor the resolution must be 60 times higher to make up for it? That's just silly and you know it! If that's how you want it... I could say that N92 takes pictures with 1,920,000 pixels (1600x1200) while N80 takes pictures with 3,145,728 pixels (2048x1536). That must mean that N80's camera is 1,225,728 times better than N92's camera!! But of course it isn't! You cant make comparisons like that. It just doesn't make any sense.
"and if you don't buy a phone for high quality games, then you shouldn't DISREGARD that advantage of the phone to play high quality games, every feature-which is an advantage should always be counted-whether it's useless or useful for someone,
to determine the counts of features a phone has."
True. It has a bigger screen so it will be better for games, but it will look more pixel-ish while N80's screen has a higher resolution so it can show smoother graphics. And we both know that a high resolution can be very important in games. They both have one advantage and one disadvantage so they pretty much overlap eachother in my opinion.
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- Lorna
- MF{
- 01 Feb 2006
Not going to be no such thing as N80i with them specifications anyway!!! I'd rather get N80.
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- Anonymous
- Sjn
- 01 Feb 2006
Nokia N80i will be sliding phone ? With 5 MP camera ? 0_o if it have 5 MP camera, nokia is the best!!
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- Lorna
- MF{
- 01 Feb 2006
I've got 6230 and i am so bored with it. I'm dying for a new phone and i'm just waiting for this. I want a laptop too but dont know weather to wait for this as you can access internet on N80 cant you??
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- M.B
- mC{
- 01 Feb 2006
Hey guys im real confused now, please help im about to get an upgrade and am totally undecided on wether i should get the Nokia N70 or N80. Has any one had the experience of the 2 is it true that the N70 is capable of video calling but not the N80 Heeeeelp.
Thanks M.B
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- Tony
- mtV
- 01 Feb 2006
N80 ownz, if anyone claims otherwise is plain stupid.
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- Mark
- ms6
- 01 Feb 2006
also a mini vacuum will be built in into the phone, the post below is from me by the way as well
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- Anonymous
- ms6
- 01 Feb 2006
im a factory worker for nokia and ive been told by my manager that the nokia n80i will also now have a built in swiss army knife and a mini water bottle built in at the back. For those who never saw my previous post other main features are a 5 megapixel camera with autofocus, carl zeiss lens with vibration, 20 x optical zoom and a secondary 1.3 megapixel camera for 3g calls. Nokia N80i will be out in november and will be available for 550 euros, $600 or £275
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- Lorna
- MF{
- 01 Feb 2006
I think the N92 has more advanced features but the N80 is by far the best. I wouldnt like to have the N92 in my pocket at that size!! the N80 has a more sophisticated and stylish look to it. I'm so in love with this phone!!!
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- ac
- TS{
- 01 Feb 2006
Lord_Gilmore
I am fully agree on the text editing part. Therefore this phone is most likely out of my choice and will go for the p9901 instead. But if you don't need the device badly, I think puting some patience on waiting for the p990i would be worthing since I think overall feature wise, it is better than the imate k-jam
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- ac
- TS{
- 01 Feb 2006
curious
I just trying to state my point of view, same like you and others. Don't worry I not scolding or shouting at you either.
From my observation, the increment of color from 262k to 16m color is more alike equal to from 240x320 to 352x416. Both also take a step further only since the color screen just right below 16m ones would be the 262k ones and same goes to screen resolution. 16m screen is actually not something advanced or new. Just that nokia rarely use it on their phone only. Take a look on panasonic model. Even a mid low range vs2 was utilizing a 16m color screen. As I mentioned earlier, different people had different taste so there actually no arguement on screen color and resolution.
And regarding dvd-h tv receiver comparing to 3g tv streaming, I don't think 3g video is expensive since my phone telco offering free video packages for 3g subscribers for the 1st month. And charges of video package which includes different channel will cost from around usd2.00 to usd4.00 depends on which package you choose. So I don't think the charges for 3g video streaming is very expensive since you can select those channel which you needed only. Where as for dvb, I not sure how good is their availability worldwide, and I not sure whether their service is free or not as well. Maybe there are dvd users here in this forum who can provide me with answer? At least this service is not available for me within this year which I am quite sure of it 8). The build in tv receiver is indeed something advance, but when you can't utilize it, it just equal to not existing.
And regarding the gaming section, honestly do you think is that worth your hard earn cash for it? Both n92 and n80 would not be cheap when release. If someone really into gaming, I think a psp of nds would be better with a wider range of game support and cheaper price.
The only thing I feel which is advanced in both phone is the wlan connectivity together with the 3g support in 1 phone device. It hard to find both 3g and wlan in current available smartphone devices. IMO both n80 and n92 will be able to attract some pda phone users since only dopod 900 had both function build in but the device itself is heavy with the weight close to 300g. The earlier nokia release their n80, the more sales nokia can gain. When company like O2 starting releasing smaller and lighter win mobile phone with 3g support, nokia will be garantee to face some tough competition in the market.
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- Lord_Gilmore
- jKq
- 01 Feb 2006
The truth of the matter is that while it lacks the TV feature of the N92 it is still a better smartphone. Problem is that it has no keyboard (built in) and uses that crappy multiple push numeric system that is sooooo hard to get anything longer than a few words out on. Also, this would realy hamper web browsing, even with hi-speed internet. I think that I am torn between this, the i-mate K-Jam and the Sony Erricson P990i... PS. Nobody offers 3G internet for any of these phones and thus will not support the video phone. What's up with that?
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- curious!!!!
- PxB
- 01 Feb 2006
to mcv...
"best phone" is subjective,we all have different tastes and preferences...
im neither on the side of n80 or n92...im just explaning their features in a logical manner...
i hope you take this information openly and kindly... --n92 is really meant for watching tv's thats why watching over 3g is more expensive than watching using dvb-h...
i hope you weren't offended...
sorry if u were.