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  • 08 May 2009

Anonymous, 08 May 2009Actually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD ... moreSymbian is still signed under nokia and LG,Samsung are the only ones that have some partenership of s60

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    • 08 May 2009

    lalo, 08 May 2009don't know about them adding kinetic scrolling in the entir... moreNever know about the kinetics in all of the OS but the brower i know lol but it did get alot better cause i have the old browser since i have an E70 and the browser sucks so i just use opera mini 4.2 which is faster and the D/Ling is much faster as welll

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      • 08 May 2009

      Anonymous, 08 May 2009Actually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD ... moreyea, that's true, since Omnia HD has HW acceleration and a faster processor, but why would anyone put something less good to a better device, right? Yea, Nokia doesn't know how to properly use the symbian os with the useless hardware, that sucks for them. i'm glad that samsung is showing the true capabilities of s60 (5th ed). nokia needs to learn from others in terms of hardware usage, and os tweaking.

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        • 08 May 2009

        http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=4272

        http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=4223

        Even though it's a small amount of people, it still shows which OS has more popularity in development.

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          • 08 May 2009

          lalo, 08 May 2009ummm, i think you are getting confused. don't put symbian a... moreActually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD can be modified to work exactly the same as the N97, with the same transitions, kinetic scrolling etc, only it will be faster due to the faster, more efficient CPU.

          Anything that is supposed to slow down the Omnia HD can be swiched off or modified UNLESS Nokia locks down Symbian, which they can't do as it's now open source.

          Obviously they can't so any argument that the Omnia HD is slower because of the way S60 has been implemented is useless.

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            • 08 May 2009

            Someone shut him up.. lol!!! killersmith just got buried, not just once but couple times....lol, so true Kurt!!

            > In reply to Killersmith @ 2009-05-05 22:20 from P$0W
            Kurt said:
            You call these facts? lol your a joke

            Fact1: Symbian has about 100 customisable components which makes it the most flexible software..
            NOT TRUE DO SOME REAL RESEARCH Lil boy

            Fact2: Symbian is in the business for 10years more than windows. Windows has just(2years or so) entered mobile world which is different from pc's..
            NOT TRUE.. Windows Mobile entered in 2000 Lil boy

            Fact3: symbian has support for office documents(word, excel, pdf, powerpoint) even editing.(free for e-series and charged for others) as opposed to wht your friend said...
            TRUE AGREED... For most u got to pay for it!!!

            Fact4: 80% people prefer symbian over other mobile os's for the ease of MULTITASKING and user friendlyness.
            NOT SO TRUE, Symbian does have a high number of customers but 80%...lol, i see u like to make your own statistics a bit higher than it should lol

            So, the guy has point when he says that winmo is for proffesionals and symbian is for kids?????
            WELL...NOT REALLY, he went too far with that one...

            Ok i'll give you one more chance...tell me a few things that ur winmo can do but symbian cant. (please dnt be foolish enough to mention applications).
            APPLICATIONS u right, .... LOL, WinMo can even mimick a Symbian OS or IPhone

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              • 08 May 2009

              Mizuchi, 08 May 20091 month left man they can easily add kinetic scrolling apar... moredon't know about them adding kinetic scrolling in the entire ui. nokia is lazy in doing stuff. they haven't even polished their browser, which sucks imo, so who knows. i just know that this phone is disappointing, then again, it is supposed to be an internet device, and not a media device. i'll just wait until symbian foundation brings out symbian^3 so that phone manufacturers can make phones with that os.

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                • 08 May 2009

                Anonymous, 08 May 2009I've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets. N97 850/190... moreLol i know i know they run on the same network bands lol

                but speed wise less garbage means it's gonna be faster more stuff means higheer CPU speed to run everything nokia is using wigets instead of apps for their N97 so it take so little space you don't have tou instal a widget cause it's a link to a modified internet page or an app

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                  • 08 May 2009

                  Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Iphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been ... moreSamsung probably make the 32GB memory modules for Nokia, the only reason they didn't bother putting it in because it's for show rather than go.

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                    • 08 May 2009

                    Anonymous, 08 May 2009I've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets. N97 850/190... moreyup, agree with you, since no carrier in the US gives more than 3.5G (3.6mbs), so having a phone with 7.2mbs is useless here lol

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                      • 08 May 2009

                      lalo, 08 May 2009actually, there's only kinetic scrolling in the browser, an... more1 month left man they can easily add kinetic scrolling apart of the intire OS the one still in the vids are the prototype and it's getting faster and better every video so it might be as slow as everyone thinks it is lol

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                        • 08 May 2009

                        Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Iphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been ... moreI've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets.

                        N97 850/1900/2100 American version 3.6MBs HSDPA
                        iPhone 3G 850/1900/2100 3.6MBs HSDPA

                        That's where I've been.

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                          • 08 May 2009

                          Anonymous, 08 May 2009Hey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPh... moreummm, i think you are getting confused. don't put symbian and nokia together. symbian is the operating system, while nokia is the phone manufacturer. now that symbian is open source, it'll grow. wait and see until symbian^3 comes out. until then, don't buy a nokia device. they just keep on bringing old stuff out.

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                            • 08 May 2009

                            Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Your agreeing that the s60 5th need a high powered CPU to ... moreso you're saying that windows mobile doesn't need a nice gui because it'll lag? that's like saying who needs windows xp when you can have windows 95??!!

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                              • 08 May 2009

                              Mizuchi, 08 May 2009The newer prototype is much faster and it has kinetic scrolling actually, there's only kinetic scrolling in the browser, and no where else. if it did have kinetic scrolling, then the people wouldn't have to scroll using the scrollbar

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                                • 08 May 2009

                                Anonymous, 08 May 2009Hey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPh... moreIphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been

                                remember the extra stuff samsung but on the all their touchscreen phones

                                touchWiz or touchFlow one of them and the 3D graphics need a stronger CPU to power the 3D trasitioning, support the HD and keep the camera intact
                                if you noticed the Omina HD doesnt have 32Gb like N97 does cause the CPU is more devoted to HD recording and the graphical transitons for the phone

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                                  • 08 May 2009

                                  Mizuchi, 08 May 2009I'll let you know how the phone is after i get the NAM lo... moreHey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPhone 3G, same speed, better than the 5800, not as fast as the Omnia HD or LG Arena.

                                  With the Samsung Omnia HD with S60 you'd be able to make exactly the same modifications as on the N97 only it will run much faster, or is Symbian becoming a closed system to protect the money Nokia want to make from OVI.

                                  It will be interesting to see how Nokia goes about locking down their content, if developers can't make money out of it, OVI store will fail.

                                  Maybe it will be like the Nokia music store where you can't use the songs as ringtones or share them by Bluetooth.

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                                    • 08 May 2009

                                    Anonymous, 08 May 2009im a big nokia fan but for the first time i have to finally... moreYour agreeing that the s60 5th need a high powered CPU to run ? And the 5800 is too slow XD come on man did you see the amount of garbage cluttered on the Omnina HD the3D effects for the screen transitions Lag so bad man
                                    the 5800 and N97 don't have any laggy screen transioning
                                    if you look at the ipods new coverflow that lags and it's not even needed on an mp3 player it's just to look cool so adding useless stuff mean higher CPU speed

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                                      • 08 May 2009

                                      im a big nokia fan but for the first time i have to finally agree with all the haters

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                                        • 08 May 2009

                                        Anonymous, 08 May 2009Buy the phone and regret after! I'm telling you! Don't wast... moreI'll let you know how the phone is
                                        after i get the NAM lol

                                        underpowered or overclocked it depends on the OS and i do like S60 alot never had a problem with it and i've heard good things about s60 t 5th