Nokia X30
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Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreDo not forget that this nokia and the g60 are receiving 3 years of warranty, in that warranty there is the battery included, so if the battery gets "kaput" well, they will need to change it for free for all the buyers, so i kind of doubt that this is a scam. Of course that the battery will degrade with every charge, build quality makes tough a huge difference in the "how much will degrade" criteria. Of course software and battery safety chip play a role into it, but that does not mean that is a scam. They said no where that they did a spell and now the batteries are lasting longer. They guaranteed them for 800 charging circles, that's about it.
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Sin, 12 Feb 2023If am not mistaken your phone are degoogled This most lik... moreNot completely degoogled. Playstore and play services,are still installed, gmail and fotos app also,there are also some services that i needed to let installed in for the devices to work properly. So i mostly uninstall google assistent, phone app, contacts, messages app, chrome browser, google notes, duo. And that's about what i remember, there are another few some, but well i do not remember all.
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Sin, 12 Feb 2023Ok So android 13 at least in the performance optimization... moreHang on there till android 13 comes out for the device,it migh be way better, or not, but well, at least you'll receive it.
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- 14 Feb 2023
swaraj, 14 Feb 2023You are less scared ? You hAve no idea how easy your life i... moreI can't explain all of the problem on here
Comments get censored and removed
There no life of luxury in the UK
People ain't Rich either and not everyone even gets minimum benefit or wage & the health care system is a total joke many problems and things u can't say on some topics
Some people are really struggling
please understand
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Sin, 14 Feb 2023Am from the UK Not as good as people think It's ... moreYou are less scared ? You hAve no idea how easy your life is in UK. Try come live down here in the third world ... they'll torch your home if you date a politican daughter without consent with you and your family in it . If you read a banned book or write an online comment on social media exposing govt corruption ... you might get 20 ysars prison time and none of your family will ever live in peace or . You have never been in china so don't say you are OK with it . They killed 10000 people because they were just protesting against govt peacefully. You do not value the liberty you have .
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Swaraj, 14 Feb 2023Yes but in USA you can file a lawsuit against the governme... moreAm from the UK
Not as good as people think
It's always about money
What ever you want something only care if you got money or something they want too know about you for there database
In all honesty am actually less scared of China having my data then the UK or USA gov and getting into the wrong hands
There's stuff u can either know or say or have opinions expressed that will get people locked up we don't actually have freedom of speech
As I don't live in China and there's not much they can actually do with it
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Sin, 13 Feb 2023I get China has got it's problems but it's not un... moreYes but in USA you can file a lawsuit against the government and win (if you can) . The point is you CAN do that . But in china if you say something against govt you will disappear. Every government is corrupt but at least some respect justice and liberty and right to privacy .
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Swaraj, 13 Feb 2023When you think about chinese brands and privacy of consumer... moreI get China has got it's problems but it's not unique too China
All continues and big gov are completely corrupt also big company are also corrupt
The trustpilot rating show user satisfaction with customer service & support so on most people are very upset have bad experience story's from buying stuff from big company
Everyone says there the good guys and the other side is the bad guys
Yeah ever Chinese company has follow Chinese law and is state owned in a way
Western brands bad also
Usa puts back doors built into all of there phone and spyware personal identity as well
So much data collection on all of are browsing habits and search history
Possibly being watched though camera and mic no way too know for sure either way
Having a credit rating yes the west does this as well
Also big company not keeped in check
And get out of control doing anti consumer practices and rewarded by profits
Umdigi actually got a mostly good rating on trustpilot
The same can't be said for most other brands
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Sin, 13 Feb 2023It seems BBK Electronics brands & especially ximomi &a... moreWhen you think about chinese brands and privacy of consumer you need think as all chinese brands are one single company . I.e - china . It's not a country It's a company . Hypothetically if your country goes to war with china ... all your phones will turn into their military spy gadgets . Cz they build on AOSP right ? There's no security assurances from google . I'm not saying they are doing that now (hmm mostly cz I don't have evidence ) . But you need to understand their companies have no freedom to go to court against their govt, that if they actually care about personal data of their consumer (which most of them don't ) . Whatever the govt ask they will have to comply .
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Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreNo my man it's not scam . And definitely not a software trick . There are industry standards laid out for charging cycle rating for military equipment,some developed countries police torch has more battery charging cycles .
In smartphone case , some companies source battery with better endurance rating . And to supplement it they do not support high voltage charging for longer duration. Eg- apple and samsung .
Samsung even made new charging protocol called PPS which charges battery on greatly customisable multiple voltages (and not conventional 5v-9v-11v way). Like your phone and chearger ifthey both support PPS it can customize output voltage to 3.2,4.3,4.5,4.6 ..... 8.3,8.4 etc... depending on circumstances like battery temp , charger temp etc. I think it was adopted by usb in their pd3.0 protocol. It charges fast but doesn't heat up battery . Anyway nokia x30 seems to have pps support since in gsmarena review it outperformed some 33w chinese phones when it's charging Voltage peaked at 26w only
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It seems
BBK Electronics brands & especially ximomi & there sub brands
Are the main reason for complaints about built-in ads blootware cheaply made crap Chinese phones
Huawei more premium but spyware stuff poor durability
Basically all of the mainstream Chinese brands anyway that seems too be the problem with the Chinese brands anyway
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Nokia X30 fans angry that their 33W charger doesn't charge that fast after the January build update
https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/66630/charging-issue-after-january-build-update
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Anonymous, 13 Feb 2023Those models are not universally accessible That's really unfortunate
Not universally accessible
There only really find on Chinese website like AliExpress most often and can only be brought online if there's no way too import them
Yeah that's sad
They offer a affordable solution too getting good phone if the opinion don't exist for everyone :(
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Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreI meant to say **Charged
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Sin, 12 Feb 2023I don't understand why ximomi & realme are conside... moreThose models are not universally accessible
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All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they're changed.
There is no way around this.
They also tend to be produced by the same manufacturers, therefore the majority of 5000/4500 mah batteries on the market come from the same place, irrespective of brand.
The (increased) charge cycle marketing - is a scam based solely on software optimization (optimized charging etc). It doesn't have much to do with the actual quality or tech of the specific battery.
Therefore each time one uses their smartphone with an inbuilt battery and they charge it, the lifespan is reduced.
This is the unfairness of inbuilt batteries. It's a huge scam and often places a very limited lifespan on every device - preventing the consumer from being able to easily use a device for the long haul.
This enforces the requirement for upgrades or a costly battery replacement service, which in most cases, requires a specialist.
It's a repeat purchase/customer/reliance/dependence cycle created by Apple - for no other purpose than to generate profits.
As it was a cleverly manipulative idea - coupled with Apple's incredible marketing (better design/less consumables/less maintenance) - as predicted, the isheep lapped it up & embraced it like it was a revelation in technological advancement and thus - was copied & eventually implemented by 99% of other brands.
I hate Apple to the very core.
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swaraj, 12 Feb 2023Anyone here defending "value for money" phone man... moreI don't understand why ximomi & realme are considered too be best value for money on hardware
often using the smartphone finder I pick soc ram amount then just keep lowering the price till there's only 1 options left
Then pick the winner
This how I found umidigi & hotwav few other not well known brands or generic chinese phone come up
Often importing a phone gets really good phone cheaply
Realme & ximomi pretty expensive brands in comparison too umidigi or hotwav
Realme ximomi have poor quality battery as well that need changing after just 6 mouths really that bad ?
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Carol, 12 Feb 2023Yeah,compared to windows phone and ios android is still a r... moreIf am not mistaken your phone are degoogled
This most likely helps a lot with smoothness on Nokia x20
In Google play store and services also are a huge hog of system resources as well
So without Google often phone do actually run more smoothly
But mainstream society and the average person will need Google
Have used the Nubia red magic 1 imported Chinese version on Android 9
Don't support Google play store sadly
Snapdragon 835 8gb
ram passive cooling system
it's so responsive & fast very sensitive screen
Just very fast in the os ul interface everything it does happen so quickly Really remarkable
Red magic os might have some optimization made too it as well as it's a gaming phone
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Carol, 12 Feb 2023Yeah,compared to windows phone and ios android is still a r... moreOk
So android 13 at least in the performance optimization compartment
Mid range phone often handle ok
The umidigi a9 pro & hotwav cyber 9 are Good enough they run smoothly most of the time only the occasion Sutter lag have and there
They both have mediatek p60 with 8gb ram
On Android 11
Sadly Nokia g10 budget phone slow as is
then just plain suffering from on Android 12 heavy freezing up Sutter lag often a factory reset made it less bad but it even when it works it slows at everything it does
The bad optimisation definitely is hurting the budget smartphones the most as there the least capacity of handling android being such a bad system resources hog
The really old versions of Android won't as bad though
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swaraj, 12 Feb 2023Anyone here defending "value for money" phone man... moreThe comment was posted by a redmi k50i buyer on gsmarena website . It's a specsheet winner not endurance winner