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  • 14 Feb 2023

Carol, 14 Feb 2023You actually miss the point, he is right and you need to se... moreI feel very sorry for people who have problems that rough

Being poor in the uk definitely not a mild problem
Middle class people are just fine but poor generally rather bad and generally struggle
especially in COVID times
Really isn't freedom of speak either
A lot of hidden really bad corruption
But much less obvious

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    • 14 Feb 2023

    Sin, 14 Feb 2023I can't explain all of the problem on here Comments ... moreYou actually miss the point, he is right and you need to see that too. He did not say there is only bells and whistles in UK, he said, their can be much much worse then that. Like say, vote against the only party that yourare allowed to vote, and you disappear, or speak loud about how you want the ruling party to go down, and your whole family disappear, believe me is not the same with "crappy health care system" or "being less fortunate". That is a whole other level of human enslavement. I know it, i lived in a dictatorship country when europes eastern block was an everyday news.

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      • 14 Feb 2023

      Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreDo not forget that this nokia and the g60 are receiving 3 years of warranty, in that warranty there is the battery included, so if the battery gets "kaput" well, they will need to change it for free for all the buyers, so i kind of doubt that this is a scam. Of course that the battery will degrade with every charge, build quality makes tough a huge difference in the "how much will degrade" criteria. Of course software and battery safety chip play a role into it, but that does not mean that is a scam. They said no where that they did a spell and now the batteries are lasting longer. They guaranteed them for 800 charging circles, that's about it.

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        • 14 Feb 2023

        Sin, 12 Feb 2023If am not mistaken your phone are degoogled This most lik... moreNot completely degoogled. Playstore and play services,are still installed, gmail and fotos app also,there are also some services that i needed to let installed in for the devices to work properly. So i mostly uninstall google assistent, phone app, contacts, messages app, chrome browser, google notes, duo. And that's about what i remember, there are another few some, but well i do not remember all.

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          • 14 Feb 2023

          Sin, 12 Feb 2023Ok So android 13 at least in the performance optimization... moreHang on there till android 13 comes out for the device,it migh be way better, or not, but well, at least you'll receive it.

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            • 14 Feb 2023

            swaraj, 14 Feb 2023You are less scared ? You hAve no idea how easy your life i... moreI can't explain all of the problem on here
            Comments get censored and removed

            There no life of luxury in the UK
            People ain't Rich either and not everyone even gets minimum benefit or wage & the health care system is a total joke many problems and things u can't say on some topics

            Some people are really struggling
            please understand

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              • 14 Feb 2023

              Sin, 14 Feb 2023Am from the UK Not as good as people think It's ... moreYou are less scared ? You hAve no idea how easy your life is in UK. Try come live down here in the third world ... they'll torch your home if you date a politican daughter without consent with you and your family in it . If you read a banned book or write an online comment on social media exposing govt corruption ... you might get 20 ysars prison time and none of your family will ever live in peace or . You have never been in china so don't say you are OK with it . They killed 10000 people because they were just protesting against govt peacefully. You do not value the liberty you have .

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                • 14 Feb 2023

                Swaraj, 14 Feb 2023Yes but in USA you can file a lawsuit against the governme... moreAm from the UK
                Not as good as people think

                It's always about money
                What ever you want something only care if you got money or something they want too know about you for there database

                In all honesty am actually less scared of China having my data then the UK or USA gov and getting into the wrong hands

                There's stuff u can either know or say or have opinions expressed that will get people locked up we don't actually have freedom of speech

                As I don't live in China and there's not much they can actually do with it

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                  • 14 Feb 2023

                  Sin, 13 Feb 2023I get China has got it's problems but it's not un... moreYes but in USA you can file a lawsuit against the government and win (if you can) . The point is you CAN do that . But in china if you say something against govt you will disappear. Every government is corrupt but at least some respect justice and liberty and right to privacy .

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                    • 13 Feb 2023

                    Swaraj, 13 Feb 2023When you think about chinese brands and privacy of consumer... moreI get China has got it's problems but it's not unique too China
                    All continues and big gov are completely corrupt also big company are also corrupt

                    The trustpilot rating show user satisfaction with customer service & support so on most people are very upset have bad experience story's from buying stuff from big company

                    Everyone says there the good guys and the other side is the bad guys

                    Yeah ever Chinese company has follow Chinese law and is state owned in a way

                    Western brands bad also

                    Usa puts back doors built into all of there phone and spyware personal identity as well

                    So much data collection on all of are browsing habits and search history

                    Possibly being watched though camera and mic no way too know for sure either way

                    Having a credit rating yes the west does this as well

                    Also big company not keeped in check
                    And get out of control doing anti consumer practices and rewarded by profits

                    Umdigi actually got a mostly good rating on trustpilot
                    The same can't be said for most other brands

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                      • 13 Feb 2023

                      Sin, 13 Feb 2023It seems BBK Electronics brands & especially ximomi &a... moreWhen you think about chinese brands and privacy of consumer you need think as all chinese brands are one single company . I.e - china . It's not a country It's a company . Hypothetically if your country goes to war with china ... all your phones will turn into their military spy gadgets . Cz they build on AOSP right ? There's no security assurances from google . I'm not saying they are doing that now (hmm mostly cz I don't have evidence ) . But you need to understand their companies have no freedom to go to court against their govt, that if they actually care about personal data of their consumer (which most of them don't ) . Whatever the govt ask they will have to comply .

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                        • 13 Feb 2023

                        Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreNo my man it's not scam . And definitely not a software trick . There are industry standards laid out for charging cycle rating for military equipment,some developed countries police torch has more battery charging cycles .

                        In smartphone case , some companies source battery with better endurance rating . And to supplement it they do not support high voltage charging for longer duration. Eg- apple and samsung .


                        Samsung even made new charging protocol called PPS which charges battery on greatly customisable multiple voltages (and not conventional 5v-9v-11v way). Like your phone and chearger ifthey both support PPS it can customize output voltage to 3.2,4.3,4.5,4.6 ..... 8.3,8.4 etc... depending on circumstances like battery temp , charger temp etc. I think it was adopted by usb in their pd3.0 protocol. It charges fast but doesn't heat up battery . Anyway nokia x30 seems to have pps support since in gsmarena review it outperformed some 33w chinese phones when it's charging Voltage peaked at 26w only

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                          • 13 Feb 2023

                          It seems
                          BBK Electronics brands & especially ximomi & there sub brands

                          Are the main reason for complaints about built-in ads blootware cheaply made crap Chinese phones

                          Huawei more premium but spyware stuff poor durability

                          Basically all of the mainstream Chinese brands anyway that seems too be the problem with the Chinese brands anyway

                            Nokia X30 fans angry that their 33W charger doesn't charge that fast after the January build update


                            https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/66630/charging-issue-after-january-build-update

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                              • 13 Feb 2023

                              Anonymous, 13 Feb 2023Those models are not universally accessible That's really unfortunate
                              Not universally accessible

                              There only really find on Chinese website like AliExpress most often and can only be brought online if there's no way too import them

                              Yeah that's sad
                              They offer a affordable solution too getting good phone if the opinion don't exist for everyone :(

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                                • 13 Feb 2023

                                Tom209, 13 Feb 2023All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they'... moreI meant to say **Charged

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                                  • 13 Feb 2023

                                  Sin, 12 Feb 2023I don't understand why ximomi & realme are conside... moreThose models are not universally accessible

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                                    • 13 Feb 2023

                                    All inbuilt batteries degrade each and every time they're changed.

                                    There is no way around this.

                                    They also tend to be produced by the same manufacturers, therefore the majority of 5000/4500 mah batteries on the market come from the same place, irrespective of brand.

                                    The (increased) charge cycle marketing - is a scam based solely on software optimization (optimized charging etc). It doesn't have much to do with the actual quality or tech of the specific battery.

                                    Therefore each time one uses their smartphone with an inbuilt battery and they charge it, the lifespan is reduced.

                                    This is the unfairness of inbuilt batteries. It's a huge scam and often places a very limited lifespan on every device - preventing the consumer from being able to easily use a device for the long haul.

                                    This enforces the requirement for upgrades or a costly battery replacement service, which in most cases, requires a specialist.

                                    It's a repeat purchase/customer/reliance/dependence cycle created by Apple - for no other purpose than to generate profits.

                                    As it was a cleverly manipulative idea - coupled with Apple's incredible marketing (better design/less consumables/less maintenance) - as predicted, the isheep lapped it up & embraced it like it was a revelation in technological advancement and thus - was copied & eventually implemented by 99% of other brands.

                                    I hate Apple to the very core.

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                                      • 12 Feb 2023

                                      swaraj, 12 Feb 2023Anyone here defending "value for money" phone man... moreI don't understand why ximomi & realme are considered too be best value for money on hardware

                                      often using the smartphone finder I pick soc ram amount then just keep lowering the price till there's only 1 options left

                                      Then pick the winner

                                      This how I found umidigi & hotwav few other not well known brands or generic chinese phone come up

                                      Often importing a phone gets really good phone cheaply

                                      Realme & ximomi pretty expensive brands in comparison too umidigi or hotwav

                                      Realme ximomi have poor quality battery as well that need changing after just 6 mouths really that bad ?

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                                        • 12 Feb 2023

                                        Carol, 12 Feb 2023Yeah,compared to windows phone and ios android is still a r... moreIf am not mistaken your phone are degoogled
                                        This most likely helps a lot with smoothness on Nokia x20

                                        In Google play store and services also are a huge hog of system resources as well
                                        So without Google often phone do actually run more smoothly

                                        But mainstream society and the average person will need Google

                                        Have used the Nubia red magic 1 imported Chinese version on Android 9
                                        Don't support Google play store sadly

                                        Snapdragon 835 8gb
                                        ram passive cooling system
                                        it's so responsive & fast very sensitive screen

                                        Just very fast in the os ul interface everything it does happen so quickly Really remarkable

                                        Red magic os might have some optimization made too it as well as it's a gaming phone