Nokia X30

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• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 01 Feb 2023Yes, but you can't install custom roms on Nokia - as t... moreDude u are still crying about headphone jack in 2023?
Get over it!

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• 01 Feb 2023

Carol, 01 Feb 2023You wrote to much to answer all, but no... moto does not ha... moreI find the Motorola G62's LCD display is more refined, stable and sharp, compared to the G60's.

The 120hz refresh rate is also a lot more effective and pronounced and noticeable.

I've used both - and Moto's UI - overall - is a lot more stable and customizable (my opinion).

I wouldn't personally buy the X30 because of the amoled display - amoleds aren't great for the eyes due to the flicker and possible temporal dithering - therefore I avoid them all as daily drivers - regardless of manufacturer.

However, I've used an X30 - and I wasn't impressed - it actually felt slower than the G60 - possibly because of the screen refresh downgrade - the colors were definitely more pronounced and punchier, and it seemed to feel more responsive compared to the G60, but apart from that - i do not think it is worth the £399.00 asking price (in the UK).

You obviously have your personal opinions, as I have mine. Maybe we can agree to disagree.

But I have to say this, surprisingly, I find your posts very educational and insightful, and believe it or not, we share a lot of similarities and common ground in terms of security/googlessness :)

It's just, I have a different way of perceiving things than you do, and my back and forth with you isn't serious. It's all banter & love brother.

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• 01 Feb 2023

Anonymous, 01 Feb 2023dual speaker on a 7 inch phone is kind of pointless ,bette... moreA lot of nokia had great high quality IPS LCDs with pure black nokia tech,that made a whole lot of difference, that were a lot of times, better then amoleds , Nokia 7.2 and 8.3 showing the pride of pure black tech and everybody complained that they have LCD. In fact, if you put 7.2 next to x30 (or any amoled) you'll have hard times detecting what is lcd what is amoled, of course, the test should be done without knowing, cause knowing will make it to easy for your brain to think that they are different, because well they should.

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• 01 Feb 2023

Tom209, 01 Feb 2023That's the thing though - I don't talk from zero ... moreYou wrote to much to answer all, but no... moto does not have better anything, also performance is not better, there is the bias. Use the phones, each for a month and than you can come here and claim better this better that. Till then this are just words based on paper specs, and truth be told, not even thouse are as gloriousas you make them sound,not even close. P.S Submerging in watter this nokia vs splash proof that moto, is a big difference.

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• 01 Feb 2023

Tom209, 01 Feb 2023That's the thing though - I don't talk from zero ... moredual speaker on a 7 inch phone is kind of pointless ,better than 1 speaker though . then there's the question of quality of speaker.

dont start with motos miserable water repellent gimmik . even when google made moto screen will dance if you touch with wet hand .i had moto g3 so i know .

moto ips are great though . i love them . best quality android ips are found on moto .

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• Anonymous
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• 01 Feb 2023

Very good phone this X30 is very awesome and very good because it is very quick and sturdy

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• 01 Feb 2023

Carol, 01 Feb 2023Hmm, about gsmarena reviews, they are very unreliable and m... moreThat's the thing though - I don't talk from zero experience.

I've used many devices - and currently have access to quite a few mid rangers.

I don't use Amoled devices due to Pulse Width Modulation. Hence why I avoided the X30 in favor of the G60.

Nevertheless, as I mentioned in an earlier post - the charge cycle claim of both the X30 and G60 is unsubstantiated. No real world tests - therefore it's currently a marketing claim that lacks evidence.

I generally preferred Snapdragons over Mediatek, until I realized the security breaches that come with Snapdragon processors, henceforth I'm more inclined to favor mediatek (unless they also start to do the same).

This security breach aspect can be confirmed by downloading a package viewer and seeing all the Snapdragon bloatware installed on any Snapdragon based phone. We're talking 15/16 packages, just for the processor alone - including remote access packages. Yes, these may be required for genuine security purposes, but this also poses the question as to whether these packages are secure and not open to hijacking.

Moto's main issue is the lack of support. They are notoriously known to lack regular updates. This is where Nokia succeed (generally).

Though at the same time, many other manufacturers (realme, samsung, oneplus, oppo etc) have already provided updates for android 13 on their year old devices. My G60 has yet to receive this - though the marketing claim (being an android one device) is that it'll always receive timely and regular updates.

This hasn't been my experience.

Anyhow - Where moto succeed is in their UI. It is near stock android, with the option of literally being able to uninstall all apps, including google ones. You can therefore secure and customize the rom to your liking.

With Nokia, you can just about do the same - although it relies on google apps for functionality - and will break services if key google based apps are uninstalled.

Also, Nokia require custom launchers to be used just to customize the home screen.

The only department where Nokia shine over moto is in the update department. Every other department (G73 vs X30) - they fail.

And regardless of what you say, specs are vital. Especially key specs such as stereo speakers, headphone jacks, battery capacity, storage capacity. As this creates a better overall user experience, especially in terms of media consumption (which 99.9% of smartphone users use a smartphone for).

Whether it's playing the odd game, watching tiktok, youtube, instagram, listening to music - this is all the basic requirement of a smartphone - therefore the specs of a device are vital, as it streamlines the process & fluidity.

Recommending the X30 over the G73 - is redundant. The G73 clearly has a better processor, better graphics, better sound (dolby atmos), better display, larger battery, faster storage, better network speeds etc as it uses a latest processor - all offered at a better more economical price point.

This is where Nokia is deficient. If they'd have used a 778g or a 778g plus, an 870 or even an 888+, we wouldn't be having this discussion. They've failed miserably by offering very low basic specs and charging a premium.

Just so you know, G73 is also water repellant.

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• Carol
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• 01 Feb 2023

Ton209, 30 Jan 2023How can you claim the X30's 695g is better than the G7... moreHmm, about gsmarena reviews, they are very unreliable and mostly on speed button. They never actually use a device they review, they have no idea where to look and change settings and the list keeps going, their reviews are under the basics, and even that is too much said. But i don't blame them, minding the fload of devices comming outta china...
I do not know what kind of device gsmarena had in their testings, and what kind of sim card, and how they charged the phone... Also the device was just released and it is obvious that there will be stability improvement updates, bug fixes and performance updates, to trash or praise a device from the get-go is lack of professionalism.
Anyway, my device holds for about 1 and a half days with 7 hours screen on time, on Data connection, and up to 2 and a half days with around 10 hours screen on time on wifi, with 60hz refresh-rate. When 90hz is active, everything gets less by about 8 to 10%. So yeah, i find it good enough, and as i've said, will most probably get even better.
Mediatek vs SD, there is a catch, and there is a reason as of why there is no mediatek in established brands devices nor in sustainable devices even tough is cheaper, and that is no coincidence... "Talking" versus "doing" are two different worlds, mediatek talks specs at lower prices, snapdragon does and what it does, it actually work as intended. Now i am not putting down mediatek, they do ok, but why 90 of them sell only with chinese devices pretty much tells the story. Also the dimensity 930 small advantages vs sd 695 do not tackle disadvantages, so overall i really do not find it to be worthy of deciding to buy a device based on it only.
Going to screen, if it would have been the other way arround and Moto had amoled, i bet you would have mentioned that, forget about the refresh rate difference and bash the hack out of x30 ips lcd 120hz display. But so you still found a way to criticize Nokia. As i am not such a fan of amoled and do not care about super refresh rates i would give them here a tie, even tough i am sure people prefere amoled 90 hz over ips lcd 120hz. What actually annoyed me is the fact that by your opinion, a screen is better because of it's refresh rate, so nothing else matters, kind of a biased meah opinion.
Going to battery: bigger battery does not tell the whole storry, mostof phones batteries are guarantied for about 400 full charges, while hmd guaranties here up to 800, double the amont. Also, the whole story is not told yet, because dimensity works with 7w while SD goes lower at 6w, so that battery might actually last the same amont,or maybe just a slightly more depending on the screen refresh rate and brightness.
Memory speeds: hmm, this is a very vast area and cannot be told in one word, in performance everything is important, from software to chip error rate to memory error rate, to storage and all that connects them, so nope, moto in not necessarily better in this criteria.
Camera: well x30 has a new camera software which in hdr mode kind of over-saturates, nothing that can't be fixed with a software update though, i do not know if moto looses here, but i am kind of confident that they do, moto was never a camera device.
Body: great premium aluminium with g.glass victurs versus plastic overall.IP67 (submerge) vs splash proof.
Warranty and support: 3 years everything. I do not know moto,but i do know it has a mediatek and motois not know for long support.
This are the goods from x30, of course there are from moto side too, that is why every person should decide for themselves, and not listen to what people like you, talk, as they talk with 0 experience, and a lot of bias.

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• 01 Feb 2023

swaraj, 01 Feb 20234200 mah battery is indeed not enough for gamers . but if y... moreYes, but you can't install custom roms on Nokia - as they don't unlock their bootloaders for their recent devices - therefore the custom rom claim is moot.

The 800 charge cycle is just a marketing claim - not backed by any real world tests - therefore it isn't substantiated.

Regardless - the battery/stereo speakers/headphone jack/GPU specs provided by the G73 5G - & factoring in the price point - make it a much more desirable and economical handet over the X30.

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• 01 Feb 2023

Ton209, 30 Jan 2023How can you claim the X30's 695g is better than the G7... more4200 mah battery is indeed not enough for gamers . but if you have a work , it's more than enough . and this phones battery has 800 charging cycle compared to standard 400-500 cycles of most other . in the end this phone lasts longer than those 5000mah battery with mediocre endurance ratings


yes stock android of nokia is way more secure than moto . cz this is official google os whereas moto's os is based on AOSP with no support from Google whatsoever . this is why you won't find "stock android " labeling anywhere in moto website simply cz thats illegal now . they say "near stock " (technically true but no google affiliation or official support) to push sells but it's no longer google stock android and is more similar to any other manufacturer version of android.


i actually like dimensity 930 and it's collaboration with imagine graphics . fascinating stuff indeed . it is prolly better than sd 695 in terms of raw power and thats all good for average user . but stock android is not for average user its more developerfriendly . snapdragon in general is way way way more flexible than any other mobile soc .so users have freedoms to use any custom rom or install something entirely diff like win11 or ubuntu touch.snapdragon has very open source radeon based adreno gpu so there's less worry about incompatible driver when jumping to a different custom rom .
snapdragon has better isp than mediatek .

to sum up soc is not just about raw performance.



android phones philosophy is flexibility over raw power . this is why they have never beaten iphone . in that sense nokia x30 is a true stock android phone at its core

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• 30 Jan 2023

Carol, 30 Jan 2023I would advise you to not listen to that troll. Allot of wh... moreHow can you claim the X30's 695g is better than the G73's Dimensity 930?

How can you claim having a 4200mah battery is better than a 5000mah battery?

How can you claim not having a headphone jack or stereo speakers is better that having both?

How can you claim the 695g's capped UFS storage speeds are better than the 930's non capped?

Your arguments in defense of the X30 over the G73 are flawed.

Even gsmarena's review of the X30 highlights the mediocre (94h) battery life when comparing to other 695g powered devices, that can reach an edurance rating of 129+hrs.

So much for "stock" android being better. Motorola's ui is basically stock android anyhow, only they've improved it.

And if you're intending to use the "security & privacy" angle, download a package viewer and use a firewall - this will show you that Nokia devices have just as many apps/background running apps/network connection attempts as Motorola - if not more.

With Moto devices, you can practically uninstall ALL the google (& google related) apps too.

With Nokia, you're forced to use the (battery hogging) play services/framework to download software updates. This isn't the case with Moto devices - all you need to use is their own in built updater app.

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• 30 Jan 2023

Robiul Bangladesh, 29 Jan 2023Only multitasking. 4/5 apps always to be background/ minimi... moreIt's perfectly fine for multitasking

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• 30 Jan 2023

Tom209, 30 Jan 2023Don't listen to anyone recommending the X30 over the G... moreThere's a reason why I'd recommend this over the G73, since my experience with Nokia has so far been so good. But the G72 imho is better since you aren't missing much from the G73.
But then again I do tell people to buy Nokia after getting steep discounts from the launch price.
It's upto the person who needs to buy it, it's their money. If they don't keep using their phones for a long period of time, it makes sense for them to get a Lenovo

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• 30 Jan 2023

Robiul Bangladesh, 29 Jan 2023Only multitasking. 4/5 apps always to be background/ minimi... moreI would advise you to not listen to that troll. Allot of what he calls higher better, are actually not, and he is also know to be a nokia bash product. I am not telling you what to buy, cause everybody should decide for themselves, and i would not be ok to recomand a device that maybe is not liked by the persone i recomand it to, this ones that recomand devixes by paperspecs and imagination should be avoided out of obvious reasons, at the end, they do not care about you or about your problems after you buy their recomanded crapp. in my opinion X30 is tough a valid better device, i will top on this later on, why i think so,but i can also talk specs,and this one has better ones.

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• 30 Jan 2023

Robiul Bangladesh, 28 Jan 2023This one or Moto g73?Don't listen to anyone recommending the X30 over the G73.

The G73 is a MUCH better device in every possible way -

Larger battery, higher screen refresh rate, stereo speakers, headphone jack, higher base model ram/storage capacity, better Bluetooth (5.3), faster processor with a better GPU & faster more stable network speeds: and to top it all off, it'll also be cheaper upon release than the X30.

You'll also get a charger and TPU case in the box.

Performance will also be similar/better - as Moto basically use a stock ui skin - that you can also freely customize without having to download a third party launcher like you have to with the Nokia (just to remove the home screen google search bar).

Yes the support might be lacking, but judging from the update cycle of the G60 (that has yet to receive android 13), you're not missing much.

Spend your money wisely and get your moneys worth - don't be ripped off by fake claims of high quality and promised updates as a replacement for sub standard specs.

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• 29 Jan 2023

Minu, 29 Jan 2023Go for Nokia. No regrets as long as you know what you buy a... moreOnly multitasking. 4/5 apps always to be background/ minimize that not to be closed. But most custom ram mobile Xiaomi, realme, OnePlus, Samsung etc close the apps and take reload. That consume my time and delay my actions.

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• 29 Jan 2023

Robiul Bangladesh, 28 Jan 2023This one or Moto g73?Go for Nokia. No regrets as long as you know what you buy a phone for

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• 29 Jan 2023

Robiul Bangladesh, 28 Jan 2023This one or Moto g73?Definitely this one. Moto phones are nothing special, and since the brand is owned by Lenovo, you pretty much get none to very minimal software support whereas with the X30 you get much better support. I don't own this phone myself but my experience with my cheaper Nokia G50 on Android 13 has been great, usually Nokia phones are very smooth and efficient.

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• 28 Jan 2023

This one or Moto g73?

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• 27 Jan 2023

Minu, 18 Jan 2023This was literally me cherry picking mobile phones based on... moremy nokia 5 in 2017 having 0.3 sar

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