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  • 18 Dec 2022

Subramanian CN, 18 Dec 2022What is the use, even if you accept everything I say? You a... moreMy friend, why are you comparing to Nokia? Compare to the entire market, like Redmi for example. Phone vendors release what they release based on previous sales/interest and massive surveys. So if you were right, the device you describe would have already been released. All vendors want to conquer the midrange segment. It's the most profitable and high volume category right now.

    Booby, 18 Dec 2022I understand your point, but I think you're wrong. Ver... moreWhat is the use, even if you accept everything I say? You aren't a mobile manufacturer. I say these here because, I am not either. My statements are nothing but opinions. It is up to the manufactures to take it or not. If I say that this device Nokia X30 is THE BEST of all devices, will every consumer buy it? My spec sheet is just for a good budget/midrange device which can be priced affordably. Isn't it true that budget and midrange devices sell more than flagship devices?

    Now, coming to the most interesting aspect of my spec sheet. What would happen if HMD or their competitors release a device with my said specifications? As a matter of fact, please don't forget that my said specs employ Stock Android. If the said device gets released, it would simply cannibalise all the existing budget and midrange lineups. Will it not? Will any manufacturer do that? This proves that my spec sheet is THE ONE.

    Just answer a simple question. Just compare my spec sheet with Nokia G60 or with Nokia X30 or any existing Nokia lineups. The device with my spec sheet will not receive Android updates with simple build quality, which should bring its asking price down. The asking price of Nokia G60 is $377 (as given by GSMarena) and Nokia X30 is $540. Now, suppose the asking price of the device with my spec sheet is $200. Also, please don't forget that Android updates aren't reliable and warranty given has many hidden variables and volatile promises. Moreover, don't forget to take note of every attribute in my spec sheet, the most important of them being its no notch display and Sony cameras. Which of these two devices you would prefer, if you choose to buy a budget/midrange device? Be true to your heart.

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      • Booby
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      • 18 Dec 2022

      Subramanian CN, 18 Dec 2022Well. Please specify the model. Is it available in the mar... moreI understand your point, but I think you're wrong. Very few people would be interested in buying the device you describe.

        Booby, 18 Dec 2022Buy an old Sony Xperia insteadWell. Please specify the model.
        Is it available in the market as I am not interested in an used device?
        Will it have the latest version of Android?
        If not, will it be possible to install a latest version of stable custom ROM, at least, if one exists?
        I think you have replied me just by looking at camera specifications in my spec sheet.

        Since there are many who are particular about Android updates, HMD or other manufacturers may consider releasing the same device as said in my spec sheet with 3 years of Android updates by pricing it higher. Manufacturers may even consider providing paid Android updates like paid apps for those who are interested.

        For your information, my spec sheet is not intended for my personal benefit but, for the benefit of our Global Society. As I've already said, I know to live even with Chinese mobiles and to be precise, I know to live without Android mobiles or iOS mobiles since, you've given me a suggestion. Anyhow, thanks a lot for your VALUABLE suggestion.

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          • Booby
          • TiY
          • 18 Dec 2022

          Subramanian CN, 11 Dec 2022Dear HMD, I am eagerly waiting to see a Nokia C series devi... moreBuy an old Sony Xperia instead

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            • Sin
            • 3aP
            • 14 Dec 2022

            Carol, 14 Dec 2022Am pretty sure that you care more about what you buy then a... moreThere's a lot of people who don't understand how much they should be paying for the smartphones they buy

            There is a lot of scalpers and resellers out there that sell smartphones for twice the price they should be

            So any smartphone modals from any brand can be overpriced depending on the seller

            Then sometimes brands set a price premium on some smartphone modals

            Nokia really chosen some low end hardware
            Built the Nokia x30 at real price premium and even removed the changer from the box that the customers need too buy on top plus the extra shipping cost

            But it's basically what you expect for around £175
            Smartphone from Chinese brand like umdigi
            Too get equipment stock android smartphone plus changer in the box

            There's definitely a lot of cheap Chinese crap out there Xiaomi comes too mind with blootware & overheating issues and isn't even as well priced as people seem believe

            Nokia surely put this smartphone on sale sooner or later at least
            So a price reduction be good

            So people definitely should consider there opinions before buying and spend wisely

            Although in general brands should have better screens where there not fighting with the selfie camera

            Like see a practical solution too this by the design teams just look at Sony no such problems exist

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              • 14 Dec 2022

              Sin, 12 Dec 2022I care about the customers who buy the smartphones and have... moreAm pretty sure that you care more about what you buy then anything else. If you think that people did not learn to research, think again. I can hardly believe that there are people that buy rippoff smartphones, as you call them, without researching first. It is more like what they decided afterwards, then getting fulled. Maybe some grandma/grandpa/grandsomething that do not really care about the price. But in rest everybody heard of chinese crappery and their "cheap" offerings.

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                • 13 Dec 2022

                3.5mm jack is missing it is very disappointed 😞

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                  • Sin
                  • 3aP
                  • 12 Dec 2022

                  Subramanian CN, 11 Dec 2022The only difference between your comments and mine is that ... moreI care about the customers who buy the smartphones and have too live with the smartphone they buy

                  As I have said before big company are rich and greedy and will do whatever they can get away with for extra profit

                  I just want customers too get the best possible smartphone they can for there money

                  I just dislike seeing people get ripped off buying overpriced smartphone who don't know any better

                    Sin, 11 Dec 2022I don't understand why you got so much fixation on the... moreThe only difference between your comments and mine is that you, comment, to satisfy your wants and I, comment, for the betterment of our world. I don't mean to say that your wants are wrong because, every organization exists to satisfy their wants. We live in the middle of seductions and abstractions.

                    For your information, I know to live with Chinese mobiles even if Nokia cease to exist or in other words, I know to live without Stock Android. I just comment and will always comment for the betterment of our World, till I exist, no only in relation to mobiles but, with everything in this world.

                      Sin, 11 Dec 2022I don't understand why you got so much fixation on the... moreLet HMD decide because you and me can't decide. We can only comment. If we are capable enough to decide, we would've started our own company. Though, I criticise and comment a lot, I know my limitations and boundaries. But, I do so for the betterment of our World.

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                        • 11 Dec 2022

                        Subramanian CN, 11 Dec 2022Dear HMD, I am eagerly waiting to see a Nokia C series devi... moreI don't understand why you got so much fixation on the Nokia g400 and nothing else

                        Not everyone wants the same smartphone as you

                        People like different models and choice opinions
                        This is why Nokia selling well

                        I want Nokia 3.1 3gb ram/32gb rom android 10 mediatek mtk6750 but as sold out every where i can't buy another Nokia smartphone as no models I like anymore available

                          Dear HMD, I am eagerly waiting to see a Nokia C series device from you, which has the following specifications.

                          1. A GOOD no notch, no notch, no notch... FHD IPS LCD display (6 inches or more) with minimal head and chin spaces like that of Sony devices protected with Gorilla glass 3.
                          2. Unibody Plastic frame and plastic back with grainy texture for good grip.
                          3. Snapdragon 480+ 5G or a similar SOC with 6GB RAM with 64 GB internal storage with dedicated card slot. (Only one memory variant)
                          4. Clean bloat free Stock Android 13. Since this is a C series device, this would never receive Android updates.
                          5. Single Sony 12 mp (wide) main camera with LED flash. No Zeiss optics.
                          6. Sony 8mp front camera.
                          7. Dual speakers. (dedicated speakers instead of using ear piece as a speaker)
                          8. 3.5mm audio jack.
                          9. Optional, FM Radio.
                          10. Optional, Side mounted fingerprint scanner.
                          11. Good WLAN with good hotspot
                          12. USB Type C with OTG support
                          13. 5000mA battery.
                          14. Only one color option (say black)
                          15. 20w charger.
                          16. All sensors as in G400.

                          Since this device wouldn't receive Android updates, asking price for this device should necessarily go down.

                          Though I have discussed about such a device time ago, in an old GSMarena post, I state it again for the betterment of our Global society ( Our World ). Though this a BUDGET device this would be considered as a MIDRANGE device by consumers because of its specifications. One such device from HMD would be more than sufficient for the whole world, instead of variety of garbage. Moreover, mass scale production of the said device in a single color option with just only one memory variant would amplify single SOC procurement and other hardwares in a large quantity, which would definitely bring down costs. There is no need for a flagship device as believed by HMD. If manufacturers do really care about saving the resources of our planet, why shouldn't they stop manufacturing so many variants. Consumers who complain about device's back instead of good performance or those who expects more, always have choices. They may choose some other brand. No one can say, that the above spec sheet is bad, by looking at present Nokia's C series devices and its specifications. Can HMD try, to see the results?

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                            • 10 Dec 2022

                            I was expecting and Ip68 rating and 4K video recording and more powerful cpu clockspeed but this is still nice.
                            The refresh rate would be much better if it was 120 hz but what to do.
                            The thing i liked very much was the light when u touch the finger scanner.

                              Carol, 10 Dec 2022Yeah, i've heard that it was even more, like 25%, but ... moreEuropean countries are different ,there everyone gets equal wage. here if you are a government teacher you'll get 600 dollars salary per month but if your a private teacher you'll get 150 dollars max .so don't compare india with Europe.


                              here iphones are so expensive for the same money you can go to UAE buy an iPhone there then come back and still have some left

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                                • Sin
                                • 3ag
                                • 10 Dec 2022

                                Swaraj7, 10 Dec 2022our govt imposed 20 % tax on smartphone. import duties are ... moreThat's really unfortunate

                                I heard the Indian market had a lot of problems with over pricing of smartphones and some brands had crazy price premium on them

                                So does local market opinions end up cheaper and better value for money because of 20% taxs

                                For us
                                UK market is one of the worsted in Europe I think
                                The UK gov makes all smartphones unnecessary expensive

                                Importing taxes and getting though customs fees on smartphones then expensive shipping on top makes a smartphone twice it's original price

                                So what ends up happening is a 50 pound smartphone from us or Chinese market now cost 100 pound as a in the UK

                                Just the UK markets own smartphones we can buy in the shops or stores are just so bad and overpriced that this is are best choice over here

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                                  • Carol
                                  • mek
                                  • 10 Dec 2022

                                  Swaraj7, 10 Dec 2022our govt imposed 20 % tax on smartphone. import duties are ... moreYeah, i've heard that it was even more, like 25%, but tuned it down, because of presure made, but well... Anyways, there are european cautries that do not do better in that regard...

                                    Sin, 09 Dec 2022Yes am from europe In the UK So I know pricing and avai... moreour govt imposed 20 % tax on smartphone. import duties are impossible. every flagship phone in India is selling more expensive than in USA.

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                                      • Sin
                                      • 3aP
                                      • 09 Dec 2022

                                      Swaraj7, 09 Dec 2022I've never got a chance to use umdigi phone. but heard... moreYes am from europe
                                      In the UK

                                      So I know pricing and availability of smartphones in the UK market and can be brought in a shop or store over here

                                      It's a none competitive market with UK high taxes on everything and poor local market opinions for buying smartphones in shops and stores and high pricing

                                      What ends up happening as a result is importing Chinese smartphones from online that are made for other market's into the uk and paying input fees

                                      This works out as the cheapest price option on hardware and getting high end smartphones dirt cheap
                                      Buying umdigi phone from cheapest website online on when on sale

                                        Sin, 08 Dec 2022You got too stop acting like stock android compassion don&#... moreI've never got a chance to use umdigi phone. but heard a lot about them . are you from europe