Huawei P9 review: Ascension
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- AnonD-507785
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016If u read my previous comments in this article I have alrea... moreWhy? Why they have to up their game to match Snapdragon and Exynos models? To match the price of those phones too? Because it will happen. And if the phone runs without stutter on a setup that costs manufacturer less, which translates to lower phone prices, isn't that the win for the customers? I'm happy that Huawei sticks to sensible solition, rather than rat racing benchmarks. And trust me when I say it - at this point, there's no need for them to change anything in SoC/GPU department...and they won't. It may be a problem to you, that's fine, plenty of other choices. I'm happy with what they are offering.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016Not really. The maximum, that person with the best eye sigh... moreI have no intrest in what a average person see's LOL
I can personally see the diffrence between 1080p and QHD screen at 5.5" above screen size.
Ofcource i can manage with even a 1080p screen till 6" screen but QHD is much better than 1080p
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- 16 Apr 2016
Huawei phone only use it own Kirin processor. They won't be Snapdragon.
Huawei phone is smooth since Mate 7. It still run games perfectly in FHD. They is no worried on performance and heat.
I dunno why American so demands on Snapdragon. Even Samsung Exynos is far better especially the power consumption. Samsung release nearly all running Exynos in S7 Edge and I no regret getting Exynos edition. Only few county especially USA where Samsung purposely out Snapdragon edition. Those using Exynos edition before will know Exynos is actually much better than Snapdragon.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016I think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentiona... moreIf u read my previous comments in this article I have already mentioned that P9 plus is much more compelling
And the main thing I was trying to say which u guys are ignoring is that Huawei along with MediaTek needs to up their GPU department and match it to SD and Exynos
We need more competition in Android world
End users i.e we customers are at profit
Huawei has potential and Samsung and Apple has got a worthy competitor
Thing is they should correct their flaws in the upcoming phone Mate 9 may be..
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- 16 Apr 2016
Dasman, 16 Apr 2016Right... If there is a snapdragon variant of this phone it'... moreUnfortunately it won't happen. Well...that is if you really want Snapdragon version. They are sticking with Kirin on this one. Well...so far, there hasn't been any official word from Huawei about any other SoC variations.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016This sounds much like Apple way Don't settle for just good... moreHaving a 20/20 vision is getting harder and harder these days. There aren't many people left with that kind of vision. I'm talking about the naked eye, not enhanced with glasses or contacts. You have to have a phone right in front of your eyes (which I doubt this is the way people use their phones) and really sharp eye (or glasses) to see pixels with 423PPI screen. Vast majority of people hold their phones in about 30cm distance. With that kind of use FHD is not a problem even on 6" screen.
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- Dasman
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016I think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentiona... moreRight... If there is a snapdragon variant of this phone it'll sell like hot pockets. Would be the perfect smartphone in my eyes and many others.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016Bashing Snapdragon with Adreno all the time indicates eithe... moreI don't hate Qualcomm, I'm just super disappointed with 810 model (we all know why). And now from GSMA and Android Authority tests, they concluded, that SoC got much improved (reducing it to quad-core helped a lot), but Adreno 530 under heavy use for about half an hour heats up, stutters and is losing around 1/3 of its potential. If you think this is fine, then I guess further conversation has no point.
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- 16 Apr 2016
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016Not that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that th... moreYou're right there sir. I think that too. It's not that they can't do it (hardware could pull it off), they just don't want to. Reasonable.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016B&W camera shots are really very compelling Leica del... moreI think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentional. Think about it. If they will make P9 almost flawless phone, there will be no room for P9 Plus to shine. Also it helped P9 to keep lower price. Plus will come with better screen (1080p and lack of 4K don't bother me at all), better sound, bigger battery, which will explain higher price. I think P9 Plus will sell much better than entry model.
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- 16 Apr 2016
If only this ran on Windows or another top tier OS. Seeing a new phone that's running on Android just kills all its mojo.
It's like a new car comes out. With an old 5 liter, V12 engine, producing 120 horse power. That's what using Android feels like.
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- AnonD-468210
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- 16 Apr 2016
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016The GPU is not too powerful is only logical for the FHD scr... moreThis sounds much like Apple way
Don't settle for just good bro, demand f
Great (Sony Xperia Z3 tagline lol)
And QHD isn't overkill a guy with 20-20 vision can discern pixels on even QHD screens
And reading webpages is a lot better on QHD screens
Yeah I takes its toll on Processor but on battery it's debatable because most of the phones with QHD screens score respectable battery endurance
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- AnonD-468210
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016See? You don't even listen. What are you talking about slou... moreBashing Snapdragon with Adreno all the time indicates either hatred or fanboyism for other OEM
From GSMArena Mi5 Review Performance Page
"The new Snapdragon 820 chip lives up to the expectations and delivers stellar performance without depleting the battery in a flash. What's even better - the S820 is much cooler than its predecessor and won't give you headaches on games or benchmarks.
We ran the BaseMark ES 3.1 and AnTuTu, twice times each, and we found the Mi 5 to be warm, but far from unpleasant. And it cooled down in less than a minute - something impossible for the Snapdragon 810 phones."
All in all Snapdragon have upped their game this time and came a long way from scorching hot SD810
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- ethereal
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016Bro
I don't think so the hardware is that capable to handl... moreThe GPU is not too powerful is only logical for the FHD screen since FHD won't demand for much anyway. 4k as you know is not a deal breaker for many for now.
Regarding VR compatibility, what I understand is that only phone-less VR has got the real future. Phone assisted VRs shall go obselete in the near future so increasing phone resolution just for the sake of to be used along with the VR is pointless as many companies will realize is what I believe.
Galaxy s7 having a (slightly) better battery life is mostly because of their better optimized cpu.
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- AnonD-468210
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- 16 Apr 2016
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016Not that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that th... moreBro
I don't think so the hardware is that capable to handle QHD leave alone 4K resolution
And I complained about resolution coz Companies are trying harder to push VR and even Huawei joined the game by launching their own headset which has an edge of 360 degree sound
And About battery life Galaxy S7 with the same amount of battery gives better endurance with QHD screen
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- ethereal
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016B&W camera shots are really very compelling
Leica del... moreNot that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that they see no point in giving their users an awful battery life in exchange of more PPI screens which obviously are nothing more than an overkill!
I am having a first hand experience of using a flagship device with only 720p screen with yet a champion battery endurance rating. I am talking about Xperia Z3 compact!
More PPIs on a phone are useless unless it is for VR or big sized displays. Huawei are doing the right thing in keeping the resolution under check while keeping themselves out of PPI mad race IMO.
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- AnonD-468210
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- 16 Apr 2016
B&W camera shots are really very compelling
Leica delivered according to their status this time Hats off
I personally liked the modes because I personal preference pics are more eye pleasing ones rather than original looking ones (I prefer shooting raw though and edit thereafter)
Plenty of night shooting modes is just awesome
My set of concerns
Huawei has launched a compelling VR with so called 360 audio
But the videos will appear too pixelised due to FHD screen but it's given away for a reason due to weaker GPU
And I don't think this gpu could have handled QHD
And even the blacks of screen is not deep enough much like mid Ranger phones have
FHD screen didn't help battery endurance like it did with MI5
And no 4k video is let down too. It's better to have that option. This is omitted due to weaker gpu only imo
P9 plus is much more compelling with the added extras like AMOLED ( personal favorite)
And guys u r not accepting the weaker GPU con and blaming instead trying to support by giving some reason
Huawei is off to make perfect device help them make by complaining about cons
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- AnonD-507785
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- 16 Apr 2016
robogo, 16 Apr 2016I believe the inability to record 4K video is not really a ... moreYup. My thoughts exactly. All of a sudden everyone became a professional video recorders, that can only record in 4K and no less. Geeeez.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-100398, 16 Apr 2016I know the real world performance matters but it does not m... moreSee? You don't even listen. What are you talking about slouch performance? They tested the phone extensively. There is nothing out there to make it stutter! So if you use S7, G5 and P9 next to each other, your eyes won't see the difference. It's just your brain, that tells you: "Yeah, it's a flagship, so it has to have those top numbers right. Otherwise it's crap." I'll take that "inferior" speeds (as you say) over an overheating Snapdragon with Adreno.
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- 16 Apr 2016
AnonD-100398, 16 Apr 2016QHD screen matters at 5.5" and above you can see the diffrence!Not really. The maximum, that person with the best eye sight could see (vision 20/20, which in current times is as rare as the unicorn) is 720PPI. And that's holding your phone very close to your eyes. If that same person is holding phone at a foot distance from eyes, like most people do, P9s 423PPI density is more than enough, to make that person fail to see a single pixel on the screen. And we're talking about the person with a perfect 20/20 vision, which if you don't know how rare it is, ask an optician. Average person is totally fine with the density of 300PPI and above. If you can distinguish pixels looking at 5.5" 1080p screen, then it's not the pixel count, rather technology of its matrix. Now higher resolutions can be benefited from, when you use your phone for VR, but I'm yet to find a single person, that actually uses phone for that purpose.