Nokia 9 PureView review
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- AnonD-860090
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- 08 Apr 2019
lpl, 07 Apr 2019First give it a try, then pass judgement. This way you just... moreI would like to appologise to all the persons who didn't understand my posts, and yes ? I should give a try to this phone but I will not.
Why? It's because there is no optimization, and the overselling on a device which boards 1year old SOC.
If at the very beginning the Android One, and its chinese iteration roms were optimized, this effort will permit them to sell an optimized device and yes we can agree to use outdated components, even smaller evolutions.
Look Fairphones: small brand, outdated components, pricey as top mid-rangers but the OS is optimized and they aren't 30 behind to do it! But why they are still selling phones and no ones complaint again them? It's because the phone is usable.
But be at the place of Nokia 6.x Plus, 7.x Plus, 8.x Plus users, who faced promised updates which provided useless devices, Nokia 8 Sirocco users (Sirocco sounds the top for all Nokia lovers) which they had to complaint on Twitter during several months to obtain software update where all the other high range devices were already tasted the famous part of pie so long promised.
So yes, qualify me as a hater, but when someone buy a service behind a product, then he should receive it, and there is no excuse to understand that the service can't be delivered.
We're on GSMArena, there is many tech people in the world who are reading reviews, and I feel really chocked to still read comments from people who never had any Nokias claiming they are the best devices. They fucked up also the featurephones: Do you imagine a feature phone of 2019 on which you text a reply from the call history you've to re-add manually the phone number???
Look GSMArena themselves, which are really reliable they waited for the first big software update before plan to do the review... So I'm fed up and yes I'm negative, limit not polite, but please stop to agree to hide all the problems around these phones!
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- 08 Apr 2019
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2019Go to seminar for photography... Then you could make a sens... morei agree with you. i am a photographer for almost 30 years now and this phone is the one i can tell fit's for most prof. photographers. this phone is not intended for point and shoot photography joke. being a photographer is not for auto mode its how you make your photo coming from your heart and creativity which is mind. this phone provides that to us photographers not just a phone user/s.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 08 Apr 2019
MUSTDOS, 08 Apr 2019P20 pro still looks more processed to me Just look what ... moreMy point is that it is incorrect to say that Nokia 9 does not produce overly processed images. Go to the 5th page on this review and you'll see what I mean.
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- MUSTDOS
- 8p5
- 08 Apr 2019
MUSTDOS, 08 Apr 2019P20 pro still looks more processed to me Just look what ... moreI meant from bellow ( not in the RAW section )
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- 08 Apr 2019
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2019Go to seminar for photography... Then you could make a sens... moreHe speaks about euthanists, not amateurs. Amateur will use phone only, euthanist will gladly spend more for additional control over the image.
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- techyrock
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- 08 Apr 2019
I didnt know about trypophobia I thought it will be something related to what have arachnophobia (Its looks like Spider eyes and freaks me out) The way lenses are arranged and being a pureView device they could have gone with Nokia 1020 layout where lenses and most of it would rest in a black circle that could have made it less prominent and maybe even reminiscence a one big lens
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- MUSTDOS
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- 08 Apr 2019
Nick Tagataka, 08 Apr 2019"On the bright side, this multi camera crazed phone doesn't... moreP20 pro still looks more processed to me
Just look what happens when dynamic range and tonality are in demand at the same time
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/huawei_p20_pro_review/sample_images
look at 3rd image counting from (not RAW section)
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 08 Apr 2019
MUSTDOS, 07 Apr 2019One thing most people miss out on the point of having a lar... more"On the bright side, this multi camera crazed phone doesn't produced super overly processed images like the p20"
If you read the article you can tell that it produces one of the most sharpened-looking JPEG among all 2019 high end smartphones. You get more natural look in RAW, but then you can say exactly the same for other phones as well.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 08 Apr 2019
.alpha, 07 Apr 2019Really? Of all the phone you have in office you grabbed a P... morePixel 3's HDR+ RAW and iPhone XS' Lightroom HDR RAW can capture as much dynamic range as Nokia 9(especially the latter) and do better job at night because the sensor size is quite a bit larger and they don't have to align images from multiple cameras with parallax. But obviously GSMArena decided to use iPhone X instead because, well, they wanted to make this phone look better.
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- 08 Apr 2019
ZolaIII, 07 Apr 2019This happened already:
https://m.gsmarena.com/apples_lcd_s... moreLCD and OLED are complimentary technologies not competing. Sure in phone market OLED lives as upper spec due to being newer technology compared to LCD just so it can checkmark the spec sheet for marketing purposes but truth is only few OLED displays in mobile phones are quality panels, all others are very mediocre with massive issues. But same can be said for LCD as well but technology itself has matured so issues are not that spread out.
If you are talking about TV panels I can contest that LCD still remains superior. I myself have the newest AF9 from Sony with LG OLED panel but with Sony tuning and while it's a superior quality panel and experience compared to Sony's own ZD9 series it comes out totally unrealistic with eye bleeding light, unnecessary contrast and saturation. ZD9 has its drawbacks such as viewing at the angle but if you are straight on it is a better experience unless you are a fan of bright colors.
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- Zagor
- PA4
- 07 Apr 2019
A bit disappointing overall, but - it is first-gen product and obviously had troubled development. I am under impression that it wasn't ready yet, but Nokia had to release it before 855 phones swarm the market - or, even worse, 865 gets announced/released.
Hopefully they will fix these bugs and tune camera related software. Yes, this phone should be used in RAW... but regardless, even enthusiasts/pros sometimes need quick result on the move, there's no reason why default JPG and RAW-JPG conversion would not be better tuned.
Luckily I don't need a phone right now, so I will keep an eye on how this phone is being patched up. If nothing else, I am expecting there will be PureView 10 at some point... and at least two other brands have have announced cooperation with Light, so PureView is just an entry into this territory, not the best or final statement.
I do agree that people who care about photography should be considering 1" sensor as minimum for quality results. I do carry Sony RX100 with me most of the time... but not ALL of the time, and idea of having best possible phone camera is attractive. I'm hoping that this camera design - if not this phone - will give me that; maybe not today - but in foreseeable future.
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- MUSTDOS
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- 07 Apr 2019
One thing most people miss out on the point of having a larger sensor is the ease of playing with prespective: 1 inch sensor size should be the absolute minimum for enthusiasts; other than that all objects will look flat without the "3D poppingness" which isn't only the job for the tonality from sensor and lenses.
On the bright side, this multi camera crazed phone doesn't produced super overly processed images like the p20.
Wish there's a phone camera with two 2/3" sensor with a wide and telephoto lenses since it makes a lot more sense than phones that came out in 2018 and now.
808 and CM1 are still kings of photos for phones
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- Anonymous
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- 07 Apr 2019
Yanice, 07 Apr 2019Photography enthusiasts use DSLR cameras, not a ridiculous ... moreGo to seminar for photography... Then you could make a sensible comment ...
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- Anonymous
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- 07 Apr 2019
Yanice, 07 Apr 2019Photography enthusiasts use DSLR cameras, not a ridiculous ... moreHahaha...this phone is not for you... Enjoy your painting quality fotos feom samsungbor huawei hahaha
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- .alpha
- ytx
- 07 Apr 2019
Really? Of all the phone you have in office you grabbed a P30 Pro and an iPhone X from 2017. How about iPhone XS, Pixel 3 and Galaxy S10?
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- mYW
- 07 Apr 2019
[deleted post]First give it a try, then pass judgement. This way you just seem like a hater. Cheers!
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- 07 Apr 2019
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2019So you are comparing the Nokia 9 with old phones by several... moreSorry you missed my point and the whole point of my comment. Maybe read it again? Cheers!
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- Anonymous
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- 07 Apr 2019
lpl, 07 Apr 2019If I didn't own a Nokia 9 myself, I would have thought that... moreSo you are comparing the Nokia 9 with old phones by several years/generations that doesn't have the latest bigger sensors with improved software too and not as capable SoC... as the latest flagships the reviewers of this article and others have in their hands to compare, very fair and understable.
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- 07 Apr 2019
If I didn't own a Nokia 9 myself, I would have thought that this phone was the worst thing that happened to gsm world in the last 2years. Since I do own one and do use one, I can just agree to disagree (to that very strongly) with almost all the points written here, by both the reviewer(s),as well as most of you guys out there who are just bashing and being plain disrespectful - it's just a phone and if you don't like it, don't buy it; refocus your energy on finding one you do want to make your own. The fingerprint scanner is Indeed a nightmare and the camera app can be a bit of a drama queen with all the processing it does,but for me personally it's totally worth it when the photo outcome is like the one (at least I) get daily. I have to say, I seriously don't know how the reviewer got the quality it did, but my samples look 10 times better. The plain jpgs look amazing. The quality of the post processed ones I don't even want to talk about. No phone out there comes even close... it's also mostly about the things you want. This is not a "point &shoot" phone. It doesn't come with over saturated Instagram ready modes. Its point is not to bring the moon to you as close as possible (the comparison with p30 Pros zoom features was in my opinion also highly unfair in the review since Huawei literally advertised the zoom as it's main highlight feature for the p30pro, so it didn't really get the point of that comparison whatsoever and if you do want to compare features, compare those that are similar,not those who make 2 phones look like worlds apart). Nokia 9 has the most honest representation of ones reality, the colors look exactly like the ones you see in front of you and there is simply something super charming to me about it's output all together. And before I'm called a fanboy - my last 3 phones before the n9 were a Samsung Galaxy, iPhone 5c and Huawei p10, the last one having the best black and white output I saw till date (at least before I got the n9). The p10 was also never really praised for it's photo quality and I think it was also because most of it's users didn't really know how to use it nor how to take full advantage of its potential. The p10 was also not a point to shoot phone, was stripped of ai but it gave photos that kicked ass and almost always looked waaaay better than the ones a Samsung, iPhone or even pixel could produce. I somehow feel the Nokia 9 is in the same category now, only 2 years later. I also love that it comes with a genuine black and white sensor(s), something you can't really see anymore but something that,at least for me,is very important. It really depends on the things you expect from your phone and its camera I would say. Either ways, for people who do want to buy this phone I would say - there are other reviews out there you might want to check out before passing final judgement. For me it's an amazing phone, extremely fast and snappy and with a camera I can tweak just the way I want and that makes it a winner in my book. Cheers!