Sony Xperia 1 II review

29 May 2020


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Anonymous, 30 May 2020HDR and natural together do not exist in photography. Whit... moreMaybe they don't exist on Sony Xperia 1 II.
On other phones one can easily tune HDR settings to your liking.

Another reason why Sony is simply behind the curve.
But ppl who haven't used anything beyond their Sony bubble will always resort to lies.
Like a kid, if Xperia can't do it, then other phones also can't.
Time to drop the toys and grow up boy!

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    • 30 May 2020

    Anonymous, 30 May 2020Oppo Charging without heat? LOL. Level of lies are get... moreThe previous guy said "barely produce any heat". And you twisted his words to say "without heat". You can do better.

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      • Anonymous
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      • 30 May 2020

      According to Anandtech and Xda, the pixel size of the 70mm camera is 1.0 micrometer. https://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-1-ii-hands-on/ https://www.anandtech.com/show/15529/sony-announces-xperia-1-ii-flagship

      Due to the 6.95mm Exif focal length this means that Sony crops a 12 megapixel sensor. So you only get 8.9 megapixels because the effective sensor area at 70mm is approximately 8.9mm². So Sony's specs are a lie.

      Crop factor = 70mm/6.95mm = 10.072
      Sensor diagonal at 70mm = 43.267mm / crop factor = 4.296mm
      Sensor area at 70mm field of view = Diagonal² x cos(arctan(3/4)) x sin(arctan(3/4)) = 8.86mm²

      You would need a pixel size of 0.86 micrometer for 12.0 megapixels at 70.0 mm, Sony and Samsung don't produce camera sensors with a pixel size between 0.9 and 0.8 micrometer as far as I know
      Pixel size = sqrt(8.86mm² / 12000000) = sqrt(8860000 micrometer² / 12000000) = 0.86 micrometer

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        Anonymous, 30 May 2020To all HDR people that need to tone down a bit their fear o... moreYou need to tone down your fear of HDR. There is HDR done right and there is HDR done wrong. Don't condemn HDR just because it has been overdone by some people.

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          Anonymous, 30 May 2020HDR and natural together do not exist in photography. Whit... moreDo you even know what HDR is? You can take three shots separated by 1/3 or 2/3 exposure stops and still get natural-looking photos. Although that is not enough to prevent the highlights from blowing out in some cases. If you have used a proper camera, you will know that you can customise the exposure stop difference in HDR mode. And this option is missing from smartphones. Don't condemn HDR just because of your ignorance. You keep repeating the same statements like a broken record. I will repeat my explanation as many times as needed to get this into your head.

            Nick.B, 30 May 2020What I see with my eyes is not marketing. I own the device.... moreHave fun staying stuck on android 10 with your "great tech" for the rest of it's life.

              Anonymous, 30 May 2020To all HDR people that need to tone down a bit their fear o... moreExactly! Someone had to say it. There is a difference between natural balanced shots and crap excessive HDR. And people think it looks very high quality lol.
              Also another obsession is with night modes where there is no essence of the night!! Oh let's just make everything look like day with blue night skies lol

                We all should go back to reality. Just view the samples of DPReview and choose some of the better compact camera there with the same scenes. You can see that smartphones still can‘t really compete with real cameras.

                So, nobody should pay more than 800, 900, 1000 Dollar/Euro for a smartphone. Manufacturers should step up their game or stop the strategy of tiny optimizations every year for higher and higher prices. It‘s ridiculous.

                Btw. It would be much better if Sony would introduce new models of their QX-Lenses. This was a really nice concept and nobody would have the idea to buy a new phone every year only because of a little better camera.

                  Nick.B, 30 May 2020On top of that my Oppo is 12gb 512gb default. Your Xperia 8... moreU just made my point

                    Nick.B, 30 May 2020Less is more? Less features. My refresh rate is on auto. At... moreOn top of that my Oppo is 12gb 512gb default. Your Xperia 8gb 256. Oh wait less is more you said(saying 60hz is as good as 120hz)

                      Smithravi, 30 May 2020Comparing importance of photos with a useless 120hz, you lo... moreLess is more? Less features. My refresh rate is on auto. At least I have what to choose from. Your are stuck in 60hz on the Xperia for 1200 eur. Are you iPhone user saying less is morr? Yes. 12000 eur for phone with less good screen than 1000 eur phone. That must hurt you.

                      P.s you haven't read properly the reviews XPERIA 1 MARK 2 WON'T RUN 3k videos not 4K!

                      So it is 4K on spec sheet and it's only 2K. Bonus it is 2007 ish 60hz and 500nits. Best buy in 2020! :)

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                        • 30 May 2020

                        Anonymous2137, 30 May 2020There are many external camera apps out there with differen... moreJust tested your mcpro24fps app on my XZ1 which lacks 25fps support via camera2api driver (only 30fps) and this app, too, fails in attempt to reproduce the correct fps. So yes, it's completely up to Sony what framerates will be accessible to 3-rd party camera apps.

                        BTW. In the last sentence of my previous comment I meant 60 to 50fps interpolation, not 60 to 25fps

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                          • 30 May 2020

                          To all HDR people that need to tone down a bit their fear of overexposure as well as underexposrue. Take a look at this craptastic photo made by Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro cause that's everything that is wrong with HDR photography. We have a indoor scene that is evenly exposed like outdoor scene showing through out of the window, not only that this is wrong but it also looks like someone has photoshoped the landscape into the window opening, very poorly btw.

                          https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/medias/post-41332/BridgeHDR_XiaomiMi10Pro_DxOMark_05-00.jpg

                          And to add to the insult dxomark thinks this is excellent dynamic range LOL!

                            saved, 30 May 2020Your Find x2 Pro has 3k green pixels and 1.5k blue and red ... moreWhat I see with my eyes is not marketing. I own the device. And straight compares it with other "great" phones. When I experience it myself I don't care what tech is behind it.

                              So it is not 4 k and it is not even 3 k

                              It runs qHD (2K) only! 500nits? My find x2pro has more than 800. And 120hz. And bigger size screen. And not 21:9. And not 60hz like 2007 smartphone.

                              Applause, Sony!

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                                Anonymous, 30 May 2020The camera seems to be a total disaster. Horrible tele lens... moreApple HDR and natural don't go together at all. Unless you love those tone mapped dirty clouds and sun to be scaled to the level of a table lamp hotspot when shooting directly at it. There are some people who love that kind of crap. HDR like andy HDR kills the contrast and to counter that image post processing called tone mapping is what boosts the contrast back big time. It's a hit or miss depending on the scenario but HDR is not the way to shoot on mobile unless you have huge amounts of light in the scene and burn out is inevitable.

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                                  saved, 30 May 2020just try mcpro24fps on your phone, you'll be surprised. Cus... moreThere are many external camera apps out there with different framerates but whether they actually work or not is determined by the phone manufacturer and camera2api limitations of the particular phone. If Sony decides to limit 4K60fps exclusively to Cinema Pro, it's likely that no external apps will have access to these settings over camera2 and max out at 4K30 only.

                                  Interpolation from 60 to 25fps, no matter the software, is completely useless as all framerates below 30fps are jerky and stuttery (24fps look decent in cinema because of dark environment and double exposure of every frame in cinematic projectors, but on computer screens and in daylight 24/25fps videos look very annoying) and NTSC > PAL conversion which is overally unrecommended, would only make things worse, as choice between skipping frames and optical flow/twixtor artifacts is nothing pleasing... Though I'm wondering what would be more smooth: native 25fps (boosted to 50fps with DaVinci Opt Flow where possible) or 60fps interpolated to 25gps. Geez, native 50fps on the phone camera would make things way way easier...

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                                    • 30 May 2020

                                    Anonymous, 30 May 2020The camera seems to be a total disaster. Horrible tele lens... moreHDR and natural together do not exist in photography.
                                    White balance is the first thing changed when HdR is used.

                                    Where do you think the blue clouds on samsung photos come from?
                                    And the deep black of pixel?
                                    Yellow faces of iphones?

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                                      • 30 May 2020

                                      Anonymous, 30 May 2020Another inferior tech. Other manufacturers like Oppo with ... moreOppo Charging without heat? LOL.

                                      Level of lies are getting ridiculous here.
                                      Energy is lost in the form of heat.
                                      Charging without changing temperature would require 100% efficiency.
                                      This does not exist.

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                                        • 30 May 2020

                                        Anonymous, 30 May 2020Another inferior tech. Other manufacturers like Oppo with ... moreAnd Oppo battery dies very fast if you keep on doing that.

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