Camera test: iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. Mate 40 Pro vs. Xperia 1 II vs. Galaxy Note20 Ultra

27 November 2020


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  • 28 Nov 2020

I like the Sony Xperia because it's a professional photophone with 2 pro app.

    The conclusion:
    Xperia
    1 overpriced
    II failure

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      • Shui8
      • KZK
      • 28 Nov 2020

      Anonymous, 28 Nov 2020Conclusion is to go and buy ZV-1 or RX100 if you want prope... moreTo my eyes, newer phones with 1/1.5" & bigger can really compete with digital compact camera 1", especially for a point & shoot, sometimes beat them. I'm talking about how good computational photography are today on certain smartphone. No RAW mode involve here, since bigger sensor always win on it.

      https://www.eoshd.com/news/fuji-gfx-100-loses-to-huawei-p40-pro-plus-smartphone-for-dynamic-range/

      Surprisingly, older P40 dynamic range can go up to 15 steps. That is more than most APSC camera does, and more close to Full Frame DSLR/mirrorless sensor. It really shows how smartphone camera can kill todays digital compact camera (1", micro 4/3 sensor). And again, of course it lost on details because of the limited sensor size, but hey, the computational photography are crazy nowadays.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 28 Nov 2020

        I switched from Pixel 4 to Xperia 5 II. I like this camera, but I'll acknowledge it's not the very best. Especially HDR can be a struggle, but most of the images it produces are good enough for me.

        Don't get me wrong, I value the camera, but the rest of the 5 II just makes it the best overall phone in eyes. Literally the only thing missing is wireless charging. The screen is great, the software nice, the battery fantastic, the size makes it super easy to hold, the camera's are pretty good (especially when you know how to use photo pro) and it has great extras like a 3.5mm jack and a notification light.

        So ye, Xperia doesn't have the best auto cams, but they are some of the best all rounder phones I think

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          • Anonymous
          • LHe
          • 28 Nov 2020

          Conclusion is to go and buy ZV-1 or RX100 if you want proper both photos and videos. Phones can't come close.

          On a side note I'm sure many people are interested in skyline/architectural and foliage photography but many others are also interested in shooting people, places, food, sports, pets etc. OK social situation is what it is but even before that photo samples were always limited foliage and buildings.

            Anonymous, 28 Nov 2020I second this. I bought the xperia 1ii partly from this guy... moreMost pertinent and real fact opinion! God bless honest (and mostly) intelligent people!
            X1 II winner of 2020 in all regards!

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              • Anonymous
              • JT5
              • 28 Nov 2020

              AhmedSLL, 28 Nov 2020Is it just me or the selfie processing in the iphone had on... moreIt is a secret iFeature.
              To make everyone tanned.

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                • Shui8
                • KZK
                • 28 Nov 2020

                Shanti Dope, 28 Nov 2020Not everyone allows unlocking bootloader though. Sometimes ... moreDo u really know that up until now, there is no working newer GCAM yet for both Xperia 1ii & 5ii?

                The only working one are the 5.1 version, which is way way ancient since it doesnt has HDR+ processing, older image algorithm & many more features.

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                  • JDK
                  • ybx
                  • 28 Nov 2020

                  nikojas, 28 Nov 2020Before you all get caught up arguing over which is best, ca... moreTHANK YOU!

                  Your post deserves more upvotes.

                    Is it just me or the selfie processing in the iphone had only white people in mind, that orange tint is ridiculous in my opinion.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 28 Nov 2020

                      JDK, 28 Nov 2020You are such a joke. iPhone portraits look fake? Good... moreAll phones have same issue with bokeh.
                      Hair, shoulders, ears and fingers are cut by blur.
                      They cannot physically blur unless doing closeup shots.

                      Blur is 100% software. Reason why it is crappy from all phones.

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                        • JDK
                        • ybx
                        • 28 Nov 2020

                        iOS.Never.Again, 28 Nov 2020Those Chinese flagships have way better quality than Xperia... moreYou are such a joke.

                        iPhone portraits look fake?

                        Good luck with that cutout blur of the google pixels.
                        GSMA themselves said that the iPhone takes the most natrual looking photos.
                        One time you use GSMA's words to prove against iPhones, another time you completely ignore them.
                        Goes to show how you really don't care about GSMA's reviews.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • JT5
                          • 28 Nov 2020

                          iOS.Never.Again, 28 Nov 2020 Maybe your Xperia gives waxy, plastic images. Tell your... moreI have from z series.

                          Check review from BBk phones.
                          All look wax and plastic, same for vivo x50 pro.

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                            • ybx
                            • 28 Nov 2020

                            Android Authority, 28 Nov 2020Mi 10 ultra is mighty good. It is offering premium experi... more"The Mi 10 Ultra was launched last week and sales numbers are already proving to almost be as impressive as that of the Redmi K30 Ultra, with Xiaomi selling over US$57.8 million worth of the device. That translates into about 70,000 units sold."

                            https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Mi-10-Ultra-looks-to-already-be-a-success-with-day-one-sales-exceeding-US-57-8-million.487534.0.html#:~:text=Going%20by%20a%20post%20shared,of%20Mi%2010%20Ultra%20units.

                            "Kuo said Apple sold up to 2 million iPhone 12 models in the first 24 hours of preorders, up from 800,000 units of the iPhone 11 for the same period last year."

                            https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/19/iphone-12-pre-orders-sales-exceed-iphone-11-top-analyst-says.html

                            Ha lol.

                            Even IF the xiaomi mi 10 ultra was sold outside of china, it would sell maximum 800K units on the first day.

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                              • 28 Nov 2020

                              Xperia 1 ||

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                                • Anonymous
                                • BiP
                                • 28 Nov 2020

                                Mate 40 Pro has best auto night shots very clean looking

                                  iOS.Never.Again, 28 Nov 2020Jpg+RAW can be done on any phone with root. If it was so easy, I would be doing it too. Its easier for me to remove IR filter than to do that.

                                    Aquila, 28 Nov 2020 "jack with great dac is the best" What DAC manuf... moreI know only that their upsampling sounds great and they got it even in their headphones.

                                      Shanti Dope, 28 Nov 2020Not everyone allows unlocking bootloader though. Sometimes ... moreNot my problem...
                                      OnePlus, Realme, Xiaomi allow it.
                                      Don't know the status of other brands in 2020.
                                      Risk of wiping data? it is always recommended to wipe and do a fresh install after root.
                                      There are multiple benefits of Root, not just with RAW and camera2api.

                                        iOS.Never.Again, 28 Nov 2020Jpg+RAW can be done on any phone with root. Not everyone allows unlocking bootloader though. Sometimes some of them are even harder to unlock compared to others, and the risk of accidentally wiping out all data makes the process so much of a hassle. Yes you can back your things up, but it's not totally worth all the effort just to have root tbh.
                                        Even if you get root access, most of the time it's just the main sensor that gets an enabled camera api, not the other sensors.

                                        Sony is literally allowing you to shoot in RAW with all rear cameras right out of the box, which makes porting GCAM so easy.