Sony Xperia 5 III review
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- 04 Aug 2021
Tann Hauser, 04 Aug 2021Yeah, as I figured, so finally admitting other multiple se... morePlane of focus doesn't have anything to do with autofocus in sensor dude, it's determined by the focal length and aperture of the lens assuming the sensor size is constant. God, you're naive.
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Rkm, 04 Aug 2021Yeah, you're worse than I thought. It doesn't mat... moreYeah, as I figured, so finally admitting other multiple sensor autofocus points also working at same time in processing. Great to see you come to your senses.
Google phase detection AF, ToF sensor usage, and BionzX.
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- 04 Aug 2021
Anonymous, 04 Aug 2021https://youtu.be/mwU1kYTc7vA : Video from 2019 (after 1 wa... moreThey can talk about audio all that long, but without Dolby Atmos - speakers are not good, headphone jack uses integrated Snapdragon DAC, it has low power amplification, DSEE narrows soundstage and TBH destroys any good music etc.
Sony sound engineers ... what a joke.
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- 04 Aug 2021
Tann Hauser, 04 Aug 2021If your fundamentals were true here, only a single chosen o... moreYeah, you're worse than I thought. It doesn't matter where an object is in the sensor. If it is in the plane of focus, the object will be in focus. You inferring 'only a single object would be in focus at any time' from what I said does indicate that your fundamental knowledge is wrong.
Just google focal plane / plane of focus and hyperfocal distance to understand what I mean.
Also sensor just captures what the lens see. What's in focus is decided by the lens's depth of field. Also google depth of field.
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Rkm, 04 Aug 2021Oh now I get it. Your fundamentals are wrong.
You see, th... moreIf your fundamentals were true here, only a single chosen object in photo would remain in focus as per lens acommodation.
So tell me, which exact flower/object you believe was chosen by AF in this example:
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_110.jpg
I recognize at least 12 of them in focus, all popping across the entire sensor area.
How can that be, I wonder, if the lens can only focus on one at a time?
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Aug 2021
https://youtu.be/mwU1kYTc7vA : Video from 2019 (after 1 was announced) to explain a bit the owrk on the screen and whole Creator Mode idea.
https://youtu.be/2iM31YH3p2w :
https://youtu.be/ZweLE-sLydk:
Senior audio engineer from Sony Music talking about his role in the 1ii /5ii development.
Two short movies done with Cinema Pro, by filmmakers Liam Wong and Jeff Berlin.
https://youtu.be/3dNdAD_V_-c
https://youtu.be/6JBGpzKBiws
Hope haters remember this when they cry about it should be cheaper than iphone 12 mini or pixel 5 like I have read many times.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Aug 2021
Android--Master, 04 Aug 2021Samsung displays have won awards across all categories.
T... more"Even some old phones with Lcd have higher brightness than Xperia 5 III and 1 III"
You do realize that LCD is brighter than OLED right? Why are you acting as if this is even an argument, the same can be applied to literally any OLED phone
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Aug 2021
Gladly people do not need to buy the larger model to have larger camera or even zoom.
Would be awful if it had macro instead or just the combo wide + super wide (ultra wide is 9mm or wider).
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Aug 2021
Android--Master, 04 Aug 2021Samsung displays have won awards across all categories.
T... moreZ3 and Z3+ have over 800 nits.
Do both offere better images than 5iii? No
Not even over XZ1 or xz2.
In case you have not learned, accucary decreases as you reduce and increase brightness.
The highest accuracy will never be just 200 nits, but also never at 700/800/900 nits.
Have you ever wondered why burn-in is happens more on Galaxy S/Note than A series despite A series sells much more? Even when all A phones had oled as well?
In case you plan to use DM as reference, they always give A+ to all phones they test.
Despite all them give very different results.
If one earns A+, the other cant be A+ if results are very different.
Put Xperia and Galaxy beside any oled tv or pro oled monitor.
Check which one offer similar image to the tv.
I can tell you it is not samsung.
No matter how much you try to tweak, you cant get rid of warm yellowish tones from galaxy.
Samsung does it because they want, nothing you can do.
Go to phone arena screen test and see colour chart.
All samsung phones show same pattern.
Issues with red, blue, while and gray.
Sony lets you tweak screen the way you want.
Sony lets you tweak audio the way you want.
Sony lets you tweak you photos the way you want.
Sony lets you tweak your videos the way you want.
Sony lets you tweak battery setting you want.
Unlike other that force you to have what they think it is good for you.
I have ipad, I cannot change audio settings outside Apple music, I cant set screen colours I want. All is what apple thinks it is "good " for me.
You should demand Samsung to put on galaxy the tech they have from other divisions.
How about some tech from their TVs? Codecs and software from their audio products?
Even old Z2(2014) packs stuff from Bravia like quantum dots.
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- Rkm
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Tann Hauser, 04 Aug 2021You just quoted it.
Those focal points dont wash away by... moreOh now I get it. Your fundamentals are wrong.
You see, these sensors (image, tof) helps in determining the performance (speed, sensitivity of light) of autofocus, tracking etc but the focusing is always done by moving optical elements inside a lens. So whatever '3d pop' you are attributing to the tof sensor, it is actually generated by the optical elements ie, the lens.
Eg, if you took a lens that has that '3d pop' characteristics and mount it in a slow autofocusing camera or even a camera without any autofocus, it wouldn't loose it's 3d pop effect. Similarly if you took a generic lens and mount it on a superfast dual pixel pdaf camera, it wouldn't magically generate a 3d pop effect out of nowhere.
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- 04 Aug 2021
well, the review is encouraging and the phone seems to match my required specs list. at app.920 eur for the phone + wh1000xm3 headset i think is a good enough deal. though, i have some worries concerning the issues i had with the xperia 5II ability to hold a phone network up in low signal areas. i'll give it a try and see if it's a keeper or goner.
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Tann Hauser, 04 Aug 2021 That is exactly what Im claiming, as it is exactly what iT... moreYou just quoted it.
Those focal points dont wash away by turning object tracking off, nor do iToF precision focusing algorithms stop working.
Actually Id like to know how ridiculous does it seem to you to do some fact based logical binding?
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Android--Master, 04 Aug 2021Samsung displays have won awards across all categories. T... moretell you what: currently i have a really cheap smartphone, a samsung a10e, that i use mainly for phone, email and web surfing purposes. with a 450 brightness display. and never, NEVER, felt the need for a brighter one. actually the usual setting is some 60-65% of the max level. the idea is that most people buy phones for their usefulness and their needs, not for bigger, in this case, numbers in the spec paper. if your intention is to use your phone under sahara sun in the middle of the day, go and choose a phone to your liking.
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Tann Hauser, 04 Aug 2021 That is exactly what Im claiming, as it is exactly what iT... moreActually I want to know how you interpret
"For me it is certainly better as it adds some dimension of depth to a photo by more simultaneous focal points, contrary to flat focus photo looks where everything is sharp and clear."
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"Focus fast in any condition – day or night – with our innovative camera system. A Dual Photo Diode sensor delivers spectacularly fast and accurate focusing. With an autofocus system featuring a total of 247 phase-detection AF points covering nearly 70% of the sensor, AF acquisition is achieved in just 0.03 seconds. And with an innovative 3D iToF (indirect Time-of-Flight) sensor for low light shooting, you’ll get precision focusing, whatever the condition. It all comes together on the large 1/1.7” Exmor RS™ for Mobile imaging sensor with BIONZ X™ for Mobile engine, to deliver speed and incredible photos."
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mixedfish, 04 Aug 2021If you want to know why Sony has lower brightness than comp... moreNice explanation. Thumbs up.
Xperias screen is bright enough to be as durable enough, for an OLED burn in burdened tech.
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Rkm, 04 Aug 2021Lol, he doesn't understand his own sources doesn'... more That is exactly what Im claiming, as it is exactly what iToF tech is intended for in photography.
247 points Multifocus AF with added Precision iToF focusing.
Sonys own explanation:
"Focus fast in any condition – day or night – with our innovative camera system. A Dual Photo Diode sensor delivers spectacularly fast and accurate focusing. With an autofocus system featuring a total of 247 phase-detection AF points covering nearly 70% of the sensor, AF acquisition is achieved in just 0.03 seconds. And with an innovative 3D iToF (indirect Time-of-Flight) sensor for low light shooting, you’ll get precision focusing, whatever the condition. It all comes together on the large 1/1.7” Exmor RS™ for Mobile imaging sensor with BIONZ X™ for Mobile engine, to deliver speed and incredible photos."
Care to deliberately misinterpret too?
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Nick Tegrataker, 04 Aug 2021The 1st link explains how iToF sensor helps the camera focu... more{facepalm}
I havent seen any other OEM having these ToF
articled xplanations about their photo processing, other than solely mentioning their artificial portrait modes. So you re just presuming they use it the same way, yes?
First you negate iToF helping with autofocus, then misinterpret the actual article when provided, to fit your presumptions.
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Read into some articles about ToF, so you get a better understanding of what it can actually be used for, especially the object tracking stuff.
And the biggest wrong presumption here is that Sony implements some other weaker lenses on 1 models than 5 models. ?!
On the subject of by Sony clearly explained iToF backed AF processing across the board:
Whether a photo is better or worse with iToF depth data backed wide(multifocus) AF, is in the eye of the beholder. For me it is certainly better as it adds some dimension of depth to a photo by more simultaneous focal points, contrary to flat focus photo looks where everything is sharp and clear.
People here actually owning Xperias, even the 5 models, will definitely know what Im talking about, as mere AF disabing in PhotoPro AUTO mode, will make corner softness disappear, depending of what object one chooses to focus onto in viewfinder. That fact is accutated especially on 1 models with additional iToF processing.
People not owning Xperias, well...will continue to nag nonsens about bad lenses n stuff...
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Nick Tegrataker, 04 Aug 2021The 1st link explains how iToF sensor helps the camera focu... moreLol, he doesn't understand his own sources doesn't support his points. Basically he is saying that 1iii is using tof to create a '3d pop' while 5iii looks 'flat' because of not having tof, all while the image is represented in a 2d plane. Definitely one of the topmost ridiculous things I've read in gsmarena.
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- 04 Aug 2021
Woohoo, 04 Aug 2021Seriously, 3x the price? I'm curious as to which coun... moreColombia 🥲 Even last year's Xperia is about twice the price on unofficial resellers.