Samsung D600
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- Pieter
- TRa
- 23 Jun 2005
I don't think you should generalize about Nokia if you have had a phone that didn't worked well. I for example have already more than 3 years a nokia 8310 and it's stil works perfectly after insensive use. But I agree that Nokia today is relatively not leading in technology anymore. Therefore I'm looking for another brand. In my opinion SE still is leading at the moment with the K750i. It's still not clear how long samsung will take to overtake them with the d600 and therefore I'm almost certainly go for the K750. The D600 looks good but I think the release will be to late to be leading in technology with this phone. Let's hope they will release him fast!
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- shashikumar
- PSW
- 23 Jun 2005
i totally agree with u bob.earlier i used nokia
7210.the phone just switches off it self after 2months of use.i was frustrated about this.and i heard that the cause of the phone switching off is because of the background image that is been usued in the front display.so i removed the background image and it worked normally.
this fault continued to the nokia 7250 where if u put a photo which is taken from the phone as the background image it switches it self off.
now iam using nokia 3660.this one also has some faults.u can hardly hear the other person.even alcatel have improved in their voice clarity.the memory card gets easily corrupted.and the phone loses it's signal if u meddle with it for some time.
so guys there are so many problems regarding
nokia phones.as bob said it uses low technolgy but higher price.
but i havent used a samsung phone yet.but iam awaiting this to be released.
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- Bob
- TR%
- 23 Jun 2005
No, the winter Olympics is over in February. The phone will be out in the next few months. Of course every phone undergoes rigorous testing before released (well most models do). Once it is at an 'acceptable' quality level for release, they are free to release it at any time they desire (pending market timing). I expect a few bugs in the firmware but otherwise good quality at release.
The person with no name claiming Nokia is the best... well it was a few years ago. Not anymore. Go ahead and buy a crappy old technology overpriced Nokia model, we won't try to persuade you otherwise. My Nokia has had so many problems and Nokia still to this day refuse to replace it. They've agreed to replace the screen, keypad, clock battery, and firmware - which is basically everything - because they all have problems (it's almost 3 years old but the problems are so numerous they agreed to do it for free), yet they refuse to just outright replace the phone which would be much cheaper for them. I frequently get multiple disconnects on a single call, the clock doesn't retain the time after power off, the alarm sometimes decides not to work, it rejects the sim card, it reboots at odd times, the display goes crazy, the keypad lights intermittently flash on and off, and many other problems. Nokia has had an easy ride and have become lazy and arrogant. Enjoy your low level old technology Nokia while the rest of us buy better models.
Samsung has certainly improved a lot in recent years, and this phone is a good example of what can be achieved when a company decides to focus on producing quality product instead of trying to sell the highest quantity.
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- Sapik
- 5Fh
- 23 Jun 2005
I think it will take up to the end of this year till the mobile will be availibe on the marked.
I talk to an Samsung Engineer, he told me that D600 has to pass some Tests before they could sell this one.
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- Sapik
- 5Fh
- 23 Jun 2005
Hi guys,
i just want to inform you that this one is a Quadband (850/900/1800/1900) Mobile.
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- Bob
- TRT
- 23 Jun 2005
Yes so people screaming for it's release should be thankful they'll get a quality piece of equipment eventually. Samsung had a working D600 model since March, and lots of testing since then!
As a sponsor of the Winter Olympics in February, Samsung are giving 8000 of these for use by Olympic officals and staff. If there were to be problems with the quality, it would be a marketing disaster. Samsung already gave a D600 to the Olympic organising committee president at the start of May.
The hardware is probably fine. But given the complexity of the firmware, it's quite time consuming to fix any bugs. After buying this phone I'll update the firmware at a later stage (seriously). One of my Nokia updates almost doubled the speed of some of the functions. (data must be backed-up prior to any reflash)
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- shashikumar
- PSW
- 23 Jun 2005
hi bob.did u know that samsung made a major fault in their sound system in E720.
most of the users have complained regarding the
sound quality.iam very doubtfull that they might make the same mistake in this phone.
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- Bob
- TRT
- 22 Jun 2005
Best indications are July to September in most markets. Samsung are still debugging the firmware. The phone was somewhat prematurely announced by Samsung a few months ago.
- B
- Bob
- TRT
- 22 Jun 2005
Yes I'm waiting for it to be available and I intend to buy one. I've been waiting for a while for a compact and light phone with a very nice display, and personally I like the slider form (and hate flip phones). However I'd still recommend people to check out the other new Samsungs as we all have different tastes and needs. I definitely suggest getting a model with the 240 x 320 display since I've seen this on some Sharp models, and it's such a pleasure to have such rich colour and smooth fonts, not to mention the high quality of images displayed.
You can install Java applications, some are generic but some are model specific. You can download these, both free and paid. The firmware includes the Picsel File Viewer but I haven't yet seen a definitive list of filetypes supported in the D600 (just Office, pdf, etc). This from the picsel site:
Picsel File Viewer *can be* configured to support *one or more* of the following document types; Microsoft Word, Excel or PowerPoint, Adobe PDF, ASCII Text, Macromedia Flash, ZIP compressed files, HTML/mHTML and a variety of Image formats, including BMP, JPG, GIF, PNF, WMF and EMF.
- s
- shashikumar
- PSW
- 22 Jun 2005
are u planning to buy this phone bob???
can softwares be installed in this phone??
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- Bob
- TRW
- 22 Jun 2005
No, not double. About 40-50% more. But at release time, if there is high demand the price could be at a stupid level for a short time.
- s
- shashikumar
- PSW
- 22 Jun 2005
hi guys.some say the price will be double the price of D500.is it true
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- Pieter
- RK0
- 22 Jun 2005
Anathanema, what will the price be of the D600 if you think to know that it will be the second most expensive phone? I would appreaciate if someone can give me a good estimation of the release price in Europe. And is it true that it will certainly not come before august?
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- Heroes101
- Mx@
- 22 Jun 2005
Can anyone tell me if you can have your own MP3's as a message alert on the D600. My major disappointment with D500 was you were stuck with the boring 10 installed message alerts and no chance of customisation.
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- Bob
- TRW
- 22 Jun 2005
Don't believe the claimed battery times. But yes the much better screen on the D500 will consume more power than the low resolution Sony screen when in use (not much when in standby or talking though).
Also, a spare battery for these phones is small and slim and handy to keep in a pocket or bag if you use the phone a lot. The generic type batteries are usually (not always) fine, and a fraction of the cost of the branded ones.
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- Anathaema
- mTv
- 22 Jun 2005
this will be the most expensive phone (after P860)
frankly, I'd get a N6680 or a K750 instead of this one.
I don't say it's bad... but samsungs always break ur pocket (or credit card :D )
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- Marnie
- Aeh
- 22 Jun 2005
Thanks so much for your help Bob and Pieter, I realy appreciate your expertise and suggestions re other models.
I'm really keen on the Samsung 600 & I actually prefer a sliding rather than a flip
phone.The file viewer is a real plus. Like you Pieter I think it's really idiotic for Ssng to announce D600's release & not follow through quickly & efficiently. Its frustrating enough, to push potential buyers towards a more reliable, do as they say, manufacturer with a comparable alternative.
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- Pieter
- RK0
- 22 Jun 2005
I'm doubting between the D600 and the K750i. I see some advantages from the D600 (more pixels screen and memory) but this phone has also some disadvantages. Battery capacity is only half of the K750i and the K750i is already available with the rest of all the great functions. I am really disappointed that samsung takes so long to release this product, while they announced it just like the K750i in Q1. I think people should realize this when they compare the D600 with phones that are already available. If they were both available now I would buy the D600, but I don't know if I can wait for another few months...maybe when samsung releases the D600, SE announces a new release soon of an even better phone. And so you can wait forever....
I can think of good reasons for samsung for not releasing it now (D500), but it is frustrating to wait so long....
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- Bob
- TRW
- 22 Jun 2005
The Z series from Samsung are their 3G phones, so if you want 3G-specific services from your carrier then you might want to look at those phones. The Z700 and D600 are not too much different in terms of features, and you can do a (basic) comparison by clicking Compare on the left of this page.
The biggest difference for most people is probably physical - the Z700 is bigger and heavier (about another third in size), and is a flip-phone with a swivel screen. However it will work on both GSM or UMTS 3G service, so if you want video calling then the Z series will do this.
If you have seen how brilliant these 240 x 320 screens are compared with a lot of the junk offered by other brands, you will know that you must buy a phone with one of these excellent screens!
The P850 is extremely similar to the Z700, just non-3G.
The D600 has a file viewer so you can read text, word, excel, pdf, etc. on your phone, the P850 also has this, but the Z700 does NOT. File viewing sounds very interesting, if you want to review work on the go, or read a word, text, or pdf e-book!
Some people like slider phones (D600), some prefer flip phones (P850), and some want video calling (Z700).
Check out all of the 'coming soon' Samsung phones, there are some interesting models in there!
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- marni
- Aeh
- 22 Jun 2005
Hi,D600 looks sensational but on CNet Asia site >special reports >samsung stuff >scroll to end > this mobile Samsung SGH-Z700. It seems even more amazing. Any comments? Basic comparison of the 2 phones v mch appreciated especially from BOB (you are brilliantly knowledgeable and give clear advice). Thanks Marni