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Kris17, 13 Apr 2023People who separates their business number and personal num... more>𝘗𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘣𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘯𝘶𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘯𝘶𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳, 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘴 2 𝘴𝘪𝘮 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘴𝘭𝘰𝘵𝘴.

And how many people own/manage a business? Of course there are reasons for needing 2 sim card slots, however, and I argue, this is a niche category of users. As more phones move onto e-SIMs, there will be even less of a need for physical SIM cards, ultimately driving this argument futile.

> 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘢 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘪𝘤 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥.
I agree. The funny thing is, clearly you are directing that statement to me and other SD card defenders.

> 𝘙𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴, 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘶𝘣𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘧𝘭𝘢𝘨𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱𝘴, 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘗𝘊 𝘰𝘱𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘥𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴. 𝘚𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴.
Well, you are definitely right about that. If this debate is useless, then why do you keep on replying back to this thread?

With regards to your last statement, I do agree. Internal storage options such as 512GB are very normal on flagship phones these days, and considering UFS 4.0 speeds are as fast as PCIe 3.0 NVMe drives, it is a big win over using SD card as storage expansion. So perhaps the need for SD cards has waned out for flagships, but the versatility of having "plug-and-play" media still stands. It's a nice bonus regardless.

    NeonHD, 13 Apr 2023What can you do with a 2nd SIM card??? Call people with two... morePeople who separates their business number and personal number, needs 2 sim card slots. Those who commented below have given valid reasons, being it degrades user experience. There is clear a difference between listening to logic and being close minded. Regardless of opinions, I doubt it will return in flagships, like PC optical drives. So this debate is quite useless.

    On the subject about the system, the 23U does takehefty 50GB of internal storage, mostly for apps required to run the system, and RAM+ that eats about 8GB. But having the 512GB version, I still have 85% of room to spare with all apps installed.

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      • 13 Apr 2023

      HT, 12 Apr 2023Useless? This guy learnt the the contrary the hard way: htt... moreWell MicroSD card are indeed useless, I had one and it's not good for long term storage because the quality of the image and video files will eventually degrade overtime with the amount of overwriting. It's the same with USB flash drive. If you want to preserve high quality images or videos, then safe option would be storing files on cloud storage, sign up to photo sharing platform like Flickr or buy a Solid-state drive for your computer. One last note, MicroSD will be decommissioned by the 2030s, SanDisk will be the first to do it, then others will follow.

        Anonymous, 13 Apr 2023It's ancient. Waste of space. Sim card > SD card. What can you do with a 2nd SIM card??? Call people with two phone numbers???

        You're goddamn ridiculous mate. Just stop making more silly arguments, save yourself from embarrassment.

        As for all the other users in this thread who are so keen on decrying SD cards, come up with one good valid argument why phones should stop supporting SD card expansion. I listen to logic, not nonsense, and so far I've only been seeing nonsense.

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          • 13 Apr 2023

          HT, 13 Apr 2023If your phone is stuck in a boot loop or bricked by an upda... moreFlawed logic. Developers would never release an update that will brick their users phone knowingly. Modern day Android implements secure bootloaders, and protects the kernel from tampering, thus, bricking a device is much harder to do. Scenarios such as these are extremely unlikely. Unless you are talking about Android 10 years ago, in an age where users are free to flash custom ROMs. We don't do this anymore as it a huge security risk.

          This would also explain your dated mindset and why you would defend a dated technology such as the SD card. They were useful in the past, still are in some applications, but I urge you to move with the times.

          Flagships exist for enhanced user experience. I'd rather just plug-in usb, transfer files ASAP, and get on with life, rather than fiddle around with gimmicky cards. The S23U fulfills this purpose. It is a great phone.

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            • 13 Apr 2023

            Hector, 13 Apr 2023I have an Xperia, and my SD slot is one of the best things ... moreWe are happy that you didn't bought s23u. It will be even better if you will stick to your xperia forums only. But you will be lonely there probably. But with SD card

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              HT, 13 Apr 2023If your phone is stuck in a boot loop or bricked by an upda... moreNo. It doesn't. I always backup everything to my pc and online storage. Sd card is ancient technology. Waste of space

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                • 13 Apr 2023

                SteveUk, 13 Apr 2023Buuuut.... again, it just comes down to making sure you bac... moreIndeed, a collection should be backed up externally. However, a collection usually grows at a much lower rate than a constant stream of new data such as videos from the camera.
                And with MicroSD, a collection can be moved instantaneously between phones, and files' date and time attributes are retained as well.

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                  • 13 Apr 2023

                  Is it true that a large percent of internal memory is being used? example if i buy a samsung s23 ultra 256 gb, the 50+ gb was already deducted?i just saw a video in youtube telling the viewer that samsung deducted a large memory on their mobile
                  thank you

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                    Anonymous, 11 Apr 2023Come on sd is dead forever. Dead and dead. Good or not does... moreI have an Xperia, and my SD slot is one of the best things in my phone..

                      HT, 13 Apr 2023Sensitive data like banking belongs to internal storage obv... moreBuuuut.... again, it just comes down to making sure you back your data up. And if you have a large music or video collection, why wouldn't you have it backed it up or make sure you have it somewhere else (apart from their phone)? Just seems we're going 'round in circles... 😄

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                        • 13 Apr 2023

                        SteveUk, 13 Apr 2023IF your phone breaks, you mean... which is extremely unlike... moreAs you can see, not everyone is as lucky as you in this regard. In those cases, a MicroSD card safeguards against data loss.

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                          Anonymous, 13 Apr 2023It's ancient. Waste of space. Sim card > SD card. If your phone is stuck in a boot loop or bricked by an update, all of a sudden, MicroSD becomes the best possible use of physical space.

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                            Kris17, 13 Apr 2023Hmm... I don't understand why you would insist that in... moreSensitive data like banking belongs to internal storage obviously. And presumably, a copy of them exists at home, so if the phone is broken, it is not lost.

                            A music collection and vacation photographs are not sensitive, but large in size, so they belong to MicroSD.

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                              NeonHD, 13 Apr 2023You have a weird way of looking at things. Most SD card slo... moreIt's ancient. Waste of space. Sim card > SD card.

                                Kris17, 12 Apr 2023UFS4.0 memory is WAY faster than any SD card card out there... moreWell no sh*t it's better. That's like comparing an M.2 NVMe to a SATA SSD.

                                Valid point though obviously. It also depends on the USB speeds that the SD card reader on the phone supports, because there are SD cards (UHS-III spec) that can reach up to 624MB/s read speeds. However these cards are very expensive.

                                  Anonymous, 12 Apr 2023Good this phone does not have micro SD card slot in the 202... moreYou, too, have a weird way of looking at things. Most SD card "slots" are located on the SIM card tray, and if there is no SD card tray, then the tray will be used for a 2nd SIM. So your argument that an SD card takes up space inside a phone is completely misguided.

                                  Try coming up with an argument that isn't full of holes next time.

                                    Anoynmous, 12 Apr 2023Thanks god. SD card is just a waste of space inside such ti... moreYou have a weird way of looking at things. Most SD card slots are located on the SIM card tray, and if there isn't room for an SD card, then it will be used for a 2nd SIM. So your idea that an SD card takes up space inside a phone is completely misguided. As if such a small card would anyway, lol.

                                      HT, 12 Apr 2023MicroSD is still fast enough for 8K video and can be ejecte... moreIF your phone breaks, you mean... which is extremely unlikely (I've never had one break in all my years of using one). That pretty much seems to be the main benefit of a micro SD card. Sure, they can be handy - but at the end of the day, there's a reason why the top two phone brands stopped including them in their flagship models - they're simply not needed and the space/internal working can go to other things.

                                        HT, 13 Apr 2023Never did I have a MicroSD card fail. However, I can not sa... moreHmm... I don't understand why you would insist that internal memory is more vulnerable than an SD card in terms of data integrity. But if you feel that way, you should just buy a new phone lol.

                                        Technically, internal memory should always be more secure, because OS security policies are enforced in the internal memory partition. OS cannot enforce those policies on the ext card partition. Similarly, I wouldn't want to keep sensitive data on removable storage, then loose it somewhere. Remember, a phone cannot exist without internal memory.

                                        Just use Google services to backup your data, depending on your internet speeds can be instantaneous. Recover anywhere. Android is Google anyways.