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  • 26 Apr 2020

OLED got traction because of few things: manufacturers want it because it requires less components and is thinner, marketing people want it cause it's some new technology so they are spinning it as newer - better.

I couldn't care less about 120Hz as long as they cannot produce pure white and do frequency shifts on a slightest tilt or rotation

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    • YogiBear83
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    • 26 Apr 2020

    Anonymous, 26 Apr 2020Yes. The blue is the one who dies first. This is why ther... moreIts silly because mobile OLED displays use blue supbixel bigger than others.

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      • 26 Apr 2020

      Telephone, 26 Apr 2020I think it is the Blue led that degrade the quickest. Red ... moreYes. The blue is the one who dies first.
      This is why there is a weibo post about someone plans to use a RBBG oled.
      1080p with same pixel density of 4K.

      I suspect it is 5 ii, because person compared to 6,5" 3840x1644.

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        • YogiBear83
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        • 26 Apr 2020

        Telephone, 26 Apr 2020I think it is the Blue led that degrade the quickest. Red ... moreWhen I write about red degradation I mean that when you turn brightness higher the red change its tone much more than other colors.

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          • 26 Apr 2020

          Telephone, 26 Apr 2020I think it is the Blue led that degrade the quickest. Red ... moresimilar case with my lumia 1020. i think it's using amoled. the keyboard burned into the screen, it's subtle in dark mode but when background have bright colors, it's very noticeable

            YogiBear83, 26 Apr 2020Idemitsu Kosan invanted blue/white OLED in 80's. Idemitsu ... moreAlso
            Wasn't the first non-organic Blue LED invented in the 90s, Like the first "good" blue led
            https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2014/press-release/

            Or is OLED a really old tech now and soon to be replaced by microled.

              YogiBear83, 26 Apr 2020Yes you are right. High brightness on OLED make some color ... moreI think it is the Blue led that degrade the quickest.
              Red is lowest energy above infrared
              Blue is highest energy below ultra violet
              Blue leds requires more voltage than red leds
              I remember my coworker had a galaxy s6, and the keyboard was burned into the screen. it was tinted red where the keyboard normally would be. (green and blue somehow burned out quicker than the red)

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                • YogiBear83
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                • 26 Apr 2020

                Telephone, 26 Apr 2020After a couple hours of researching, this is what I found. ... moreIdemitsu Kosan invanted blue/white OLED in 80's.
                Idemitsu Kosan owns 33% patents in Global OLED Technology LLC (rest owns LG who buy it from Kodak - who invented OLED).

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                  • YogiBear83
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                  • 26 Apr 2020

                  Tann Hauser, 26 Apr 2020As I said, eyecandy. But the tech is just no good. See ne... moreYes you are right. High brightness on OLED make some color degradation. Especially red color.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 26 Apr 2020

                    Anonymous, 26 Apr 2020Personally I don't play games on my mobile, only so 60 Hz (... moreyeah, as it's turned out just from reading this page, some people want to have 120hz badly, if the phone doesn't have it then it must be crappy phone :D
                    so why stop there? why not 240hz?

                    2k/4k/8k.120hz 240hz 360hz are all great. if i could buy it at affordable price, i would. but we speaking of mobile devices here, as far as i know it's still need battery to power them on and batteries have their own capacity, it's not infinity, it's not like we power them on at power outlet all the time. personally i prioritize battery life well above display quality for smartphone

                    i have clevo x7200 laptop. using intel 980x 6 cores desktop processor( desktop, not mobile processor), dual graphic cards, those thing have 330watts power supply. both laptop and charger weight are 10kg/22lbs. with full perfomance on, battery lasted for 20 minutes. a real nice laptop :D for about 20 minutes

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 26 Apr 2020

                      [deleted post]Personally I don't play games on my mobile, only so 60 Hz (90 Hz) is fine as even sport is only shot at 60 FPS. And movies at 24 fps so as long as the refresh rate is above that I am happy. The video option of 120 fps @ 2k however will only be good to slow down the shot unless you export it to a monitor I guess

                        Anonymous, 26 Apr 2020lol yea i can't even imagine what mobile games really goin... moreI watched a video of the sharp zero 2 and I think it isn't true 240hz
                        Whenever its put in 240hz mode, the screen gets a bit darker. I assume there is a blank frame every other frame.
                        I own a RTX 2080 (founders edition if anyone is wondering) @1440p I get around 60-75fps at high/ultra quality LOL (I prefer quality over frame rate anyways)
                        Same with Xperia 1II
                        I just want a nice pixel dense display. 120hz is nice, but I never had a problem with 60hz. (30hz is an eyesore)

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 26 Apr 2020

                          Telephone, 26 Apr 2020What? 240hz! FOUR times the frame rate of 60hz! Wouldn't ... morelol
                          yea i can't even imagine what mobile games really going to need 240hz screen? do GPUs on mobile processor really that strong? could head to head with nvidia 2080? if it does then yeah 240hz totally make sense

                          i know, that's why i said sharp phone has become really pathetic :D from what i remember foxconn is the majority shareholder on SHARP. so technically it's a chinese phone which is totally make sense why that phone exist in the first place, from the design,specs,everything

                            Anonymous, 26 Apr 2020if refresh rate really matter for you, buy this one then. s... moreWhat? 240hz! FOUR times the frame rate of 60hz!
                            Wouldn't it require a lot more processing power to run at that rate?
                            Battery 3130mah?!?!?!
                            I'm confused. Nothing makes any sense about that phone.
                            Pong at 240hz might be nice (you know that game right? LOL)

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                              • 26 Apr 2020

                              SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 26 Apr 2020I mentioned Find X2 pro in my reply as it offers 3k@120hz o... moreif refresh rate really matter for you, buy this one then. stop preaching useless 120hz refresh rate. and guess what it's also cheaper at 1100USD/EURO.you could get 240hz refresh rate

                              https://www.gsmarena.com/sharps_aquos_zero_2_goes_on_sale_in_japan_in_q1_2020_coming_to_taiwan-news-40437.php

                                YogiBear83, 26 Apr 2020Samsung OLED technology is from: Idemitsu Kosan (and Pionee... moreAfter a couple hours of researching, this is what I found.

                                Idemitsu's award for long lasting, power efficient OLED.(specifically blue oled) (I just skimmed thru it btw)
                                https://www.idemitsu.com/news/2018/ide_180518.html

                                Samsung uses Idemitsu's materials for blue oled.
                                https://www.oled-info.com/etnews-samsung-use-full-screen-oled-gs8-and-new-oled-materials-recipe

                                Samsung Display co. manufactures the OLED display for Xperia 1? (and 1II?)
                                Not that its a problem because I like the screen on my Xperia 1.

                                  Tann Hauser, 26 Apr 2020Ahhah... I see what you did here. ;) Is it really japanese... moreI know that Pioneer has worked on OLED tech since the late 90s.
                                  Idemitsu, from what I know, is a company full of wizards and alchemists. (LOL just kidding)
                                  They make "performance chemicals" (extremely high purity chemicals)
                                  In order to make high quality OLED, you need high quality materials.
                                  Idemitsu does provides the materials to make OLED. (I don't know exactly who they provide for)

                                  https://www.oled-info.com/idemitsu-kosan
                                  From what I have read here, Idemitsu has been, and is currently developing new OLED tech.
                                  I wouldn't be surprised if other companies used Idemitsu's patents.

                                    SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 26 Apr 2020I mentioned Find X2 pro in my reply as it offers 3k@120hz o... moreOk, let's talk about OP 8 Pro. 1070 Euros instead of 1070 dollars. It doesn't matter which company, 1dollar = 1 Euro according to Companies. For Apple 1 Dollar = 1.12 Euros

                                    QHD at 120Hz on 5000mAh still is as bad as 4K on 3300mAh. Combined with 5G. I'm pretty sure Sony is not stupid to bring you a mobile with those many option on 4000mAh only to get trolled by same people like you that battery is shi$t. So stop complaining. People who are willing to buy a 4K display, will and wants to use 4K. Not a refresh rates. I still don't understand the point of refresh rates. How many times you will scroll twitter at super fast and notification bar in a day?? 60Hz is fine for me. As I said, the same guy who complains over refresh rates, will not even able to tell the difference if was given two separately.

                                    PS: You are the same guy who said 10bit on sony is 16M colours right? Lmao. Get a life man. At least trol like an educated man.

                                      YogiBear83, 26 Apr 2020I have choose sRGB + (self) white balance correction on my ... moreAs I said, eyecandy. But the tech is just no good.
                                      See news and whats happening to OnePlus8 screens...
                                      Too much brightness, and oled goes bust.
                                      It a "delicate flower" tech.
                                      No wonder Sony keeps em at lower max brightness levels.

                                      PS. Wife got fed up with ch/krn phone experimenting, is back to Sony. Got herself a new XZ2 for 300€ just 3 days ago, just for the battery. Has a great good ol' LCD screen.

                                        YogiBear83, 26 Apr 2020Samsung OLED technology is from: Idemitsu Kosan (and Pionee... moreAhhah... I see what you did here. ;)
                                        Is it really japanese tech and supply for them oleds? A link or sth?

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