Sony Xperia 1 II
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- yMa
- 03 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Enjoy your Sony fanboyism, as it would be pointless to cont... more"Sony is not a niche market"
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Xperia 1 II & Pro are commoners phone? I have to laugh chile... And explain how normal users and reviewers are having a hard time operating Xperia 1 II's Photo Pro & Cinema Pro app since last year and the same condition probably until now if they didn't have the learning curve, and having even more impossible time understanding how Xperia Pro works and meant in the first place, despite Mr.Mobile (Michael Fisher) paid a visit here once to explain the basic info regarding Xperia Pro and Xperia Pro is a super-niche phone that not even Samsung, Apple, or even Chinese OEMs dare to touch that specific area, at least for now. And if Sony did bring more of their specific Alpha, CineAlta, or their other division features to Mark III Xperias, I doubt that Sony will even return to the commoner market again, and proving your statement even redundant about Sony isn't a niche market.
"it's simply not popular due to its numerous past failures and now it only sells in limited markets."
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Those limited yet key and high-performing regions like East Asia (especially Taiwan & HK), Europe (especially Sweden) of the new-gen of Sony Xperia, however, surprisingly, did bring Sony much more revenue and cash than when Sony has much wider but poor-performing regions like the Middle East, proving if the forecasting & aggregate calculation from the latest fiscal quarter result is the same, Mobile division could generate their first profit for the first time since Q1 2017 in 2021, as Mobile division shipment has started stabilized and gradually stop bleeding money after they shift their strategies.
"Not even in the top 10 phone brands now."
Well, the jokes on you. Sony is no longer chasing for Top 10 Smartphone brands and pleasing people like you and with Sony winning the specific target market they wanted since the restructuring, they will care less about the thing you care about now. Good luck persuading me to move from Sony Xperia when 90% of current OEMs are removing the MicroSDXC slot and 3.5mm headphone jack and some of them, even on their midrange offerings, which's embarrassing enough. And with LG Mobile retirement is unavoidable, Sony with Asus & Motorola will be the last true holdout of the 3.5mm headphone jack (& MicroSDXC) in flagships that I really need.
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BTW, you're being a grouch here for not understanding our point of view despite has been explained many times here. Boy, my "reputation era" has arrived, it seems? ROFL
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 02 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021you explained enough here... and you get a "fanboyism... moreAgree and well said.
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- GYi
- 30 Mar 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 29 Mar 2021"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn'... moreSony deserves more attention... they have such amazing phones
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 30 Mar 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 29 Mar 2021"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn'... moreyou explained enough here...
and you get a "fanboyism" tag...
by a fanboy of another brand...
btw
sony has usage collections too to assess how xperia are being used...
that is if you allow it during setup, can be re set on settings...
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- wongwatt
- nb2
- 30 Mar 2021
pan dv, 22 Mar 2021really? my fellow users in an fb group reports no big issue... moreAndroid 11 is a nightmare on this phone, ja bug-riddled mess.
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 30 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021You just proved that your a Sony Fanboy....hahaha...of cour... moreit is funnier you exert effort to comment on a post about xperia...
enjoy!
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 30 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021of course we enjoy our xperia... it is really pointless to... moreYou just proved that your a Sony Fanboy....hahaha...of course, thats your choice. Nothing special about Sony flagships, in fact all brands flagships are amazing in 2021. Its all personal choice. Only Sony and Iphone have problematic, obsessed fanboys, but its quite funny and entertaining.
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 29 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Enjoy your Sony fanboyism, as it would be pointless to cont... moreof course we enjoy our xperia...
it is really pointless to argue about preferences...
some of us loves the bezel more than punched holes and notches...
sony "respects" those who enjoy video contents, thus giving us uninterrupted display...
sony "respects" those who enjoy audio contents, thus bringing back audio jack even giving it a boost, and wireless audio is not withheld as well...
sony "respects" those who wants longer lasting battery life by not putting much strained and giving us battery care since xz... and now with heat suppression...
you might say sony is left behind, "they have different direction" is actually better...
arguing what is best or worst is still fanboyism...
go and enjoy your phones as well...
me? i enjoyed alcatel and still enjoying some of nokia, lenovo, htc, lg, sony, cloudfone, firefly mobile, asus...
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instead of calling anyone a fanboy just to cover up yourself of fanboyism, you should welcome diversity and understand that not everyone wants the same thing...
like most users out there - they love notches, punched holes... then there are those people who doesnt like them...
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 29 Mar 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 29 Mar 2021"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn'... moreEnjoy your Sony fanboyism, as it would be pointless to continue this conversation anymore. I'm not brand loyal to any company, so can clearly see whats happening.
Sony is not a niche market, its simply not popular due to its numerous past failures and now it only sells in limited markets. Not even in the top 10 phone brands now. All truth, whether you want to agree or not. Enjoy your Sony Xperia phone.
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- yMa
- 29 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Please read my comment correctly, before you comment incorr... more"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn't understand simple business marketing and designs."
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Dude, since Sony shifted its smartphone division into a niche market direction since 2019 with Xperia 1 and moving its smartphone division into Sony Electronics Products & Solution (EPS) Corporation with the supervision of Sony Alpha & CineAlta, Sony has been listening to the core fans and key demographics what the design they wanted for future Xperia and they bring it, example? Xperia 1 II brings back headphone jack, flat-frame of Xperia Z, front-firing stereo speakers, no notch or no punch-hole in their flagship and mid-ranger, Alpha-style Photo Pro app, bigger battery + wireless charging, and much more. Or Xperia Pro bringing back HDMI port (input+output), Transfer FTP from cameras, much-rugged design for harsh environment those professional dealing, big vapor chamber, 5G mmWave utility, shortcut button for easy access, etc. Those features were requested heavily by fans, especially the one for 1 II.
If Sony didn't listen to their fans at all, Sony wouldn't have brought those features or doing the opposite in the new generation of Xperia like punch-hole, kept the no headphone jack, curved screen, and removing more their signature features, etc. Resulting Xperias wouldn't be a niche smartphone but just like most phones in the market, so what's the point if they're following the mainstream market just to please people like you?
Fine, XZ or XZ Premium from 2016 & 2017 respectively have big bezels and do have front-firing speakers and it was normal at that time. But 1 II? It isn't a 2016-style phone. Sure, it's more traditional compared to others, but it still looks more modern, and some tech-enthusiasts prefer the 1 II's bezel-less style than punch holes/notches in most phones because of the uninterrupted display to view.
"Front-firing speakers creates bad audio. Research speaker placement to understand audio direction."
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Oh pleaseee, do you think theater or cinema put their sound system like iPhone-style hybrid stereo speakers (one to the front, one to the side)? That wouldn't do the job at all, especially when the one-sided speaker heading towards the opposite way. Cinema put their sound system to the front, all of them, so the audience could enjoy it without much hesitation. And Sony has been dealing with the cinema industry for such times. Xperia 1 II was designed like a "cinema-style smartphone", so it was ideal that they put the speakers on the front. Even better, the speakers on 1 II were much bigger than the OG Xperia 1 that has a hybrid-system. Sure, the LUFS may be higher on the OG 1, but 1 II has much livelier reproduction compared to OG 1. Chip already told you about why Sony prefers front-firing instead of hybrid firing. Xiaomi-style is even better than the hybrid-firing of most phones.
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- Anonymous
- J5s
- 29 Mar 2021
lvm, 28 Mar 2021Specs are misleading - in most markets it is a single SIM. ... moreEU models also dual sim, but one slot is hybrid, which is for MicroSD
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- Chip
- 3TC
- 29 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Please read my comment correctly, before you comment incorr... moreYou obviously haven't experienced true stereo coming from this kind of setup. Come to think of it, it's the best way to place speakers on a phone if someone is to enjoy the sound while staring at its screen. I had the 2016 XZ and those bezels were huge compared to today's Mk 2, I'll give you that.
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 29 Mar 2021
Chip, 28 Mar 2021Have you seen the Xperias released in the 2016-2018 interva... morePlease read my comment correctly, before you comment incorrectly. I said "large bezels like a 2016 phone". If you prefer an older style phone in 2021, then that's your choice.
Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn't understand simple business marketing and designs.
Front firing speakers creates bad audio. Research speaker placement to understand audio direction.
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- Chip
- 3TC
- 28 Mar 2021
Anonymous, 28 Mar 2021Sony Xperia1 11 has large bezels like a 2016 phone. Primiti... moreHave you seen the Xperias released in the 2016-2018 interval? Do some research before you post. With the true stereo front firing speakers, I'd go with the ii bezels any day.
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 28 Mar 2021
Chip, 24 Mar 2021Big deal. This one does NOT have a hole or notch. That'... moreSony Xperia1 11 has large bezels like a 2016 phone. Primitive for 2021.
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- lvm
- L9a
- 28 Mar 2021
Specs are misleading - in most markets it is a single SIM. If wikipedia is to believe, only China and Japan get the dual-SIM model :( Bummer.
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- Anonymous
- M}b
- 27 Mar 2021
Chip, 24 Mar 2021Big deal. This one does NOT have a hole or notch. That'... moreIt is very good to see normal people around gsmarena.
Nice.
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- B{h
- 26 Mar 2021
On the specs listing it states that there is a Barometer. Can someone PLEASE tell me where it is how to find and use it. According to Sony chat the Xperia 1 II does'nt have this sensor.
Cheers.
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 25 Mar 2021
Chip, 24 Mar 2021Big deal. This one does NOT have a hole or notch. That'... moreonly few have a "complete" display since essential phone and sharp aquos...
most xperias and some gaming phones have no display "abnormalities"