Sony Xperia 1 II
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 08 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2021Totally wrong. First line subject is “Sony Xperia 1 II”.
... more> oh let me paste a part of your argument fellow anonymous
The Public are savvy about flagship phones now and simply know to avoid Sony.
> so where is the lie? "out of topicness" is right on your comment... my english might be poor, but your logic destroys your own comment right there... how could your business know how be of value when you go off against your own logic?
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 08 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2021Your so far off topic here. This forum is about the Sony Xp... moreTotally wrong. First line subject is “Sony Xperia 1 II”.
Second line subject is “Flagship Phones”
That’s a discussion all about phones. Never talked about a whole company.
Maybe ask your English Teacher for help.hahaha
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- ibrahimferhadli
- 8uP
- 07 Apr 2021
I like SD Card, Headphone Jack, Flat screen and Xperia UI. 800 USD is good price but I have some concern about performance and connectivity. Hope feedbacks may help to select
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 07 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2021Your so far off topic here. This forum is about the Sony Xp... more competition has almost eliminated Sony from the market as Sony just doesn’t understand basic business principles.
> and sure you know better about business principles than sony eh?
you should be doing your homework then, the business world needs you more than leaving flawed argument here...
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 07 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2021Your so far off topic here. This forum is about the Sony Xp... moreYour so far off topic here. This forum is about the Sony Xperia 1 II…Not the Xperia Pro.
The Public are savvy about flagship phones now and simply know to avoid Sony.
> you are out of topic too if we follow your "out of topicness"
talk about the phone then, and not the company altogether...
you are destroying your own argument there...
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 07 Apr 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 07 Apr 2021Sigh, you're being stubborn here just because fluctuat... moreYour so far off topic here. This forum is about the Sony Xperia 1 II…Not the Xperia Pro.
The Public are savvy about flagship phones now and simply know to avoid Sony. You talk about the camera software, which still is Sonys greatest problem. The Sony camera hardware is great as many other brands implement it more successfully with their own great software.
Talking about Hypercars and singers. OMG, just do some google research.
Sony dropped out of numerous countries as the populace chose better brands. Overpriced, unstable Sony phones with no support or warranty was a failure. It’s as simple as that. The competition has almost eliminated Sony from the market as Sony just doesn’t understand basic business principles.
You have convinced yourself, but overall, you have lost this argument.
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- Ki0
- 07 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 03 Apr 2021Sony Mobile is not a niche market.
It's simply not po... moreSigh, you're being stubborn here just because fluctuating is Sony doing in the Mobile division. Fine, the Xperia Z-era and XZ-era were leaning to a mainstream market, though the niche elements were there. But Xperia 1 II & Xperia Pro? No chance at all, not even a sliver, as both phones cater to professionals, broadcasters, photo & video enthusiasts, content creators (both 1 II & Pro) which are niche, as people nowadays want the software to their job, not themselves. Those who bought the Samsung, iPhones, or Chinese OEMs such as Xiaomi or BBK Group one like OnePlus/Oppo, won't buy this phone, as 1 II/Pro & other are seeing a stark difference, just from the paper & software...
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2.) Taylor Swift despite having a household name, haven't touched the rap genre, and rap is the genre that's dominating the music industry right now, but alternative or indie genre on her latest two albums (folklore & evermore) that meant for a quarantine-themed album for easy listening during this hard times, and the alt-indie genre is a niche genre in the music industry, and only a few of them are playing on that field, one of them is Lana Del Rey & Lorde. Those who listen to raps mostly don't hear alternative music that often.
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If the limited markets bring more success, cash, and revenue., that's not a failure. If drop from the Top 10, but you're popular in the segment you're targeting in the first place, that's not a failure. If the past failures made Sony Xperia more careful and appealing again by keeping the features that most OEMs don't even bother bringing back or serving it, then that's not a failure too. You're losing your argument and it saw. Talk to me if you're not anonymous anymore. Sigh...
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 06 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 05 Apr 2021It doesn't. Sony sucks. The camera is crap.about 1180 gsmarena users disagree...
you might want to expand your horizon...
and look at the camera samples...
or go to your favorite handsets and click "become a fan", fellow anonymous...
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- Anonymous
- 0dG
- 06 Apr 2021
Too big.
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- Anonymous
- nXn
- 05 Apr 2021
pan dv, 05 Apr 2021well... it deserves... too few flagship phones have essenti... moreIt doesn't. Sony sucks. The camera is crap.
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- Anonymous
- 70d
- 05 Apr 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 29 Mar 2021"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn'... moreNo, cinemas don't put all speakers in the front. You're talking nonsense. They put speakers on the sides.
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- pan dv
- I@H
- 05 Apr 2021
Chip, 30 Mar 2021Check the TOP 10 BY FANS chart on the left of the home page. well... it deserves... too few flagship phones have essential parts and features with a stock android experience... even "stocker" than pixels...
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- pan dv
- I@H
- 05 Apr 2021
wongwatt, 30 Mar 2021Android 11 is a nightmare on this phone, ja bug-riddled mess.i think i have to upgrade to see it for myself, ha ha, and give feedback... i am not reading anything significant issue at reddit... i will just reset clean just in case, it is what somegadgetguy, juanbagnell did... but anyway, just feed the review here after updating...
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- beep bop boop
- GYi
- 04 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 03 Apr 2021Sony Mobile is not a niche market. It's simply not po... morebut is he wrong? definitely not
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 03 Apr 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 03 Apr 2021Agree. Especially they're still holding to the feature... moreSony Mobile is not a niche market.
It's simply not popular due to its numerous past failures and now it only sells in limited markets.
Not even in the top 10 phone brands now.
Can’t wait to hear the biased fanboy excuses again….hahaha
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- yMa
- 03 Apr 2021
beep bop boop, 30 Mar 2021Sony deserves more attention... they have such amazing phonesAgree. Especially they're still holding to the features that are either going into extinction (MicroSDXC card slot, 3.5mm headphone jack, notification LED), is Sony's one-of-a-kind traits in the smartphone world, and became their signature feature (front-firing stereo speakers, camera button, 4K-res screen, their Music app, toolless SIM card-MicroSDXC slot, double IP65/68), and some of those features are small, underrated yet useful.
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- yMa
- 03 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021you explained enough here... and you get a "fanboyism... moreI don't know this is if this's a complimentary, sarcasm, a counterreply, or what type of that sentences you mentioned there, but thanks for the words though. Appreciated it as always :)... Yup, this is my "reputation era" LOL.
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- yMa
- 03 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2021Enjoy your Sony fanboyism, as it would be pointless to cont... more"Sony is not a niche market"
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Xperia 1 II & Pro are commoners phone? I have to laugh chile... And explain how normal users and reviewers are having a hard time operating Xperia 1 II's Photo Pro & Cinema Pro app since last year and the same condition probably until now if they didn't have the learning curve, and having even more impossible time understanding how Xperia Pro works and meant in the first place, despite Mr.Mobile (Michael Fisher) paid a visit here once to explain the basic info regarding Xperia Pro and Xperia Pro is a super-niche phone that not even Samsung, Apple, or even Chinese OEMs dare to touch that specific area, at least for now. And if Sony did bring more of their specific Alpha, CineAlta, or their other division features to Mark III Xperias, I doubt that Sony will even return to the commoner market again, and proving your statement even redundant about Sony isn't a niche market.
"it's simply not popular due to its numerous past failures and now it only sells in limited markets."
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Those limited yet key and high-performing regions like East Asia (especially Taiwan & HK), Europe (especially Sweden) of the new-gen of Sony Xperia, however, surprisingly, did bring Sony much more revenue and cash than when Sony has much wider but poor-performing regions like the Middle East, proving if the forecasting & aggregate calculation from the latest fiscal quarter result is the same, Mobile division could generate their first profit for the first time since Q1 2017 in 2021, as Mobile division shipment has started stabilized and gradually stop bleeding money after they shift their strategies.
"Not even in the top 10 phone brands now."
Well, the jokes on you. Sony is no longer chasing for Top 10 Smartphone brands and pleasing people like you and with Sony winning the specific target market they wanted since the restructuring, they will care less about the thing you care about now. Good luck persuading me to move from Sony Xperia when 90% of current OEMs are removing the MicroSDXC slot and 3.5mm headphone jack and some of them, even on their midrange offerings, which's embarrassing enough. And with LG Mobile retirement is unavoidable, Sony with Asus & Motorola will be the last true holdout of the 3.5mm headphone jack (& MicroSDXC) in flagships that I really need.
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BTW, you're being a grouch here for not understanding our point of view despite has been explained many times here. Boy, my "reputation era" has arrived, it seems? ROFL
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 02 Apr 2021
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2021you explained enough here... and you get a "fanboyism... moreAgree and well said.
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- beep bop boop
- GYi
- 30 Mar 2021
TheGoldenMellifluous, 29 Mar 2021"Other brands design what people want. Sony doesn'... moreSony deserves more attention... they have such amazing phones