Sony Xperia 1 II
- Vineet Reddy
- 7t%
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020I am assuming, you stay in India. Xiaomi didn't even sell... moreNow you will make me cry. Mi entered India with Mi3 in mid 2014. Seriously you will make me go crazy with all the miss-info you have.
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- Anonymous
- XRg
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020Ok they loose a point for quick charge and I'll take off 1/... moreExactly, my point, no phone in 2020 is perfect.
Xperia 1 II Certainly not the most advanced.
Yet ppl are justifying these high prices.
1200 Euros is too expensive for any brand be it Sony, Samsung, Apple or others.
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- Anonymous
- XRg
- 13 Apr 2020
Vineet Reddy, 13 Apr 2020Well, get your facts right. We will continue discussion aft... moreI am assuming, you stay in India.
Xiaomi didn't even sell phones In India back then. They had zero marketing back then. I still know ppl who imported it from sites like Banggood simply coz they were better value for money compared to other budget devices on the market. This was before Xiaomi officially launched phones in India.
I also know ppl who have imported the Mate 30 pro since it wasn't launched in India and was such a good phone. Do I see anyone importing Sony phones? Nope!
Marketing can only boost sales upto a certain level. High pricing turns off users towards other brands. Even if tomorrow, Sony puts their ads on every billboard in the country, on public transport, launch Commercials, etc. It still won't sell as high as Samsung or Apple or others.
Definitely not at 1,200€ price. Now, if they reduce it to less than 900 Euros ,I can see them selling more even without advertising.
- Vineet Reddy
- 7t%
- 13 Apr 2020
For all the people who are trying hard to find shortcomings or trying to show down SONY. Here is one point you can curse SONY on.
Included Headphones, I mean SONY is implementing the best DAC of any smartphone ever and then they back off on including a better pair of headphones while charging that high for the entire package. Sad, really sad.
I wish they could have at-least threw in their old in-ear studio monitors which hardly cost around $100-125 for production. That would have been an insane package.
- Vineet Reddy
- 7t%
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020Yes such an advanced phone with 21W fast charging and weak ... moreThat is one area where one can argue that SONY backed off big time. I completely agree with you on that.
- Vineet Reddy
- 7t%
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020OnePlus and other Chinese brands started advertising and ma... moreWell, get your facts right. We will continue discussion after that. I don't know I thought OnePlus One was their first model, I never knew they released few models before that which I don't have any info of and after the brand became famous they released OnePlus One.
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- Anonymous
- pGj
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020Yes such an advanced phone with 21W fast charging and weak ... moreOk they loose a point for quick charge and I'll take off 1/2 point for your hypothesis about the camera (which is probably wrong) how many extra points for the 4k, oled HDR screen (not uhd screen, don't want to go through that again). No phone is perfect, pick what's good for you. For me the screen is the most important, I can live with the battery only lasting a day and I can live with it taking longer to charge while I sleep. As for everything else. It can't really be beaten in hardware.
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- Anonymous
- XRg
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020Why? on paper it is one of if not, the most advanced phones... moreYes such an advanced phone with 21W fast charging and weak telephoto lens which probably won't be used in night pics.
Sony gave 18W charging in 2015-16 if I remember correctly.
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- Anonymous
- XRg
- 13 Apr 2020
Vineet Reddy, 13 Apr 2020Don't know my friend that should I be laughing at your poor... moreOnePlus and other Chinese brands started advertising and marketing heavily only after they became popular. Heck they had such low profit margins that they had to sell online. Majority of the users during that period didn't buy phones online, they use to buy from physical stores which had Sony, HTC, LG, Samsung, etc, none of the Chinese brands.
They started of with zero marketing. Never saw an commercial for OnePlus or Xiaomi before they became popular brands among users after word of mouth publicity. It's only after gaining certain marketshare, that they started investing money in advertising.
Truth is bitter, You can continue to be in denial about Sony.
- Vineet Reddy
- 7t%
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2020Let me take you to a trip down the memory lane.
Back in 20... moreDon't know my friend that should I be laughing at your poor joke or feel bad that you never watched TV or read Newspaper. Seriously how could you have missed the advertisement of OnePlus One. Wow, seriously wow. Lets say you read a different paper than Hindustan Times which sadly was never booked by Oneplus to advertise their phone, but I really cant believe that you have never seen a single ad of OnePlus One on TV in 2014 Let it be Hindi English or Regional let it be Entertainment, News or Sports OnePlus One ad was shown in almost every channel at some point of time. Comparatively Mi did less advertising at that point of time.
Even now watch TV or read newspaper you will regularly come across advertisement of SAMSUNG, OnePlus, Xiaomi, OPPO, NOKIA, ASUS and Apple all these brands do good marketing. Even while traveling outside you can see their hoardings. Don't know what world or parallel universe you live in. HTC stopped long ago and even LG and Motorola stopped, Lenovo stopped as well. See what happened to their sales.
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- Anonymous
- Lj%
- 13 Apr 2020
punisher, 13 Apr 20201200$ for Sony. Hahaha somebody must be jokingYes, the people who put $1600 tag on s20 ultra, $1500 on iphone Xs Max and $2500 on Xiaomi Mix Alpha.
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- Gganso
- CGH
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 13 Apr 2020Apart from the arrangement of icons on home screen, there a... moreI'm gonna pass on this. There's no need discussing iOS on Sony articles.
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- Anonymous
- pGj
- 13 Apr 2020
punisher, 13 Apr 20201200$ for Sony. Hahaha somebody must be jokingWhy? on paper it is one of if not, the most advanced phones possible at this time. How is 1200€ a joke for Sony and not for other companies?
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- punisher
- 3IT
- 13 Apr 2020
1200$ for Sony. Hahaha somebody must be joking
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 13 Apr 2020
20fps for 24mm.
10fps for 16mm amd 70mm.
iToF works for video with 70mm
Band 77 will come as update later.
Finger scanner is not same used by XZ1. New type (patent from 2019). No need to disable in USA.
It has DRO like Alpha/Cybershot
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- Anonymous
- XRg
- 13 Apr 2020
Gganso, 12 Apr 2020My point isn't about OS platforms, I was talking about the ... moreApart from the arrangement of icons on home screen, there are no similarities between Chinese Android skins and iOS.
Those skins provide a way more functional, customizable, secure, intuitive and (with 120hz displays on the market) smoother experience.
IOS will never reach that level
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Apr 2020
After XZ, Sony stopped sending unit to dxo.
So, do not expect more than 107.
By the way, looks like it can record 4K60 HDR.
I wont be surprised if they test 1080p30, like done to Xperia 5 when they tested 4k60 for iphone.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2020Ferrari and Lamborghini though they sell less, they still a... moreYes, Sony is not premium name like Ferrari, Rolex or Lamborghini.
But Samsung and Apple are not too.
Samsung has never been a brand of rich people, far from that.
Any poor family has Samsung product, like tv or cellphone.
There is no excuse like Samsung and Apple can charge more because of their names like some people here try to justify.
In the end it is a cellphone, not a watch with diamonds or a car that does 400KmH and costs $800.000 to be made.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 13 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2020When Sony had 20 and 23 megapickel cameras, People complain... moreMy Z3+ does not have oil painting often seen on photos of phones that dxomark give scores like 115, 120, 125 etc ..... Everybody was shocked with photos from p20 pro that looked too ugly even downscaled from 40 to 12.
If I take photo of someone, person wont look like made out of wax. No smooth walls.
I have few photos I took on an university campus, trees that were about 60m away I can easily seen the leaves, each stone on the wall, cement blocks used for sidewalk.
Increasing pixels by 0.2, 0.4 or 0.6 micron is not going to make any difference.
Otherwise the cameras with highest resolution would not be the best despite having smaller pixels than their sports counterpart.
A7R4 61MP will give better photos than A7 III/A9 24MP. No matter raw or jpeg.
Give to same brand a 12MP 1/1.7 and 20MP 1/1.7 .... The highest will give better shots.
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- Gganso
- CGH
- 12 Apr 2020
Other than the display and camera tech. These are other exclusives.
Dual shock 4 compatibility.
Call of duty 21:9
Fortnite 21:9
360 audio
DSEE ultimate
And haters want all these stuff for less than €1000. Good luck with that.