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  • 13 Jun 2020

Fearghast, 12 Jun 2020You have no relevant data for comparison and you are trying... more>> I invite you to compare XZ Premium "4k IPS" 3230 mah vs Galaxy S20 "2k OLED" 4000 mah

>> you reply Nokia 3310 has better battery life and yet it has a smaller battery

in other words: you claim that the XZ Premium is a Nokia 3310 compared to S20, that's why its smaller battery lasts longer, and you forget your own words that 4k is a battery hog.

Yes this Nokia 3310 has a so-called "4k IPS screen", and an old chipset, while both IPS and old chipsets are believed to be less energy efficient, they outperform the new samsung easily.

I demand you drop your arguments and stop pretending to be smart. I think I've brought enough proof that
1. there are NO 4k displays on smartphones
2. resolution alone doesn't save battery; on Samsungs the battery is saved because lowering resolution turns off the pixel antialiasing and upscaling (since the real resolution is lower).

I'm done here.

    AnonD-932544, 13 Jun 2020Haha! You're comparing a phone to a smartphone. WHAT A JOKE... moreSo you did get my point of comparing totaly different devices, goood, gooood.

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      Fearghast, 12 Jun 2020You have no relevant data for comparison and you are trying... moreHaha! You're comparing a phone to a smartphone. WHAT A JOKE! That Nokia phone you're talking about has a much smaller display can only play old games and can only be used to call and messaging, can you watch Youtube on it? NO! you're comparing apples to oranges.

        Suz, 13 Jun 2020I mean of course 120 and 90 is clearly smoother than 60 lol... moreOfcourse it's wasted on a phone - you don't draw there (sorry Note users), there are no good games that would benefit 60+ and smoother motion rendering when scroling is certainly nice, but hardly a deal breaker for any device.
        It's like a Qi charging on a device for me, I had that on my previous phone, I don't have in on my Sony - I don't mind at all.
        But it's easy to PR the hell out of it and when implemented correctly it does not have a single disadvantage, it can even lower power consumtion via syncing (like Gsync or iPad Pro etc.).
        There is a clear benefit for higher PPI and higher refresh rate and there is a clear point where more is wasted - we already have screens that surpass what is defined as "sharp as a knife" :D but we are still a bit behind on what high refresh rate can offer. The limit for max. refresh rate is believed to be around 300Hz.

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          TuGa121, 30 May 2020You cant compare dude from experience i own notes and rog p... moreI mean of course 120 and 90 is clearly smoother than 60 lol. But think about it. Do you really think people die if their phone isn't 120 or 90? Before all these high refresh rate screen blown up we don't even noticed of considered 60 laggy at all and who has time to just sit there scroll up and down just to appreciate the hella smoothness of the screen. Don't they have work to do?

            saved, 12 Jun 2020>>No, you can't check it. There is a difference in b... moreYou have no relevant data for comparison and you are trying what?
            To prove something? It does not work that way.
            Nokia 3310 has better battery life and yet it has a smaller battery ... what have we learned? Probably same thing as you are implying with your comparison .. in other words "nothing".

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                Vineet Reddy, 12 Jun 2020You are underestimating the 4K display and the quality incr... moreyou don't know what you're talking about.
                I OWN an XZ Premium with a so-called "4k screen" and I KNOW what it is.
                While for SOME use cases it's much better than fullhd, it's not much better than a 2k screen, but Sony wants to show off, and it doesn't cost any battery as I've already said; my old Xperia easily lasts 5-6 hours SOT in mixed use, and easily lasts up to 10 hours of video playback, which makes it no point for anyone in trying to prove to a 4k display user owner that his 4k display is a battery hog.

                https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
                all Sony 4k phones have decent battery life compared to their rivals, and even better than some more modern rivals, especially it's laughable that XZ Premium'17 has same battery life as Samsung Galaxy S20'20.

                there is no 4k on mobile phones.
                go read about pentile and about how resolution is calculated on OLED screens.
                Xperia XZ Premium has 16 million dots (3840*1440*3, full RGB)
                Xperia X1 has 12 million dots (R 1920*1644 + G 3840*1644 + B 1920*1644)
                LG G6 has 12 million dots (2880*1440*3, full RGB)

                tell me HOW does Xperia X1 have a 4k screen when there's actually the same amount of subpixels an LG G6 with a 2k screen has?

                and tell me also, what is the count of subpixels on a real UHD 4k TV with a full 4k RGB resolution.

                The reason you can't tell the difference in resolution between a real IPS 2k and an 4k OLED is there is no difference.

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                  Fearghast, 12 Jun 2020No, you can't check it. There is a difference in battery s... more>>No, you can't check it.
                  There is a difference in battery size, display size, Android version, battery profiles, different brightness, different SOC, different UFS versions etc.
                  Yeah, sure it's all just a screen ... clever girl.

                  Silly boy.
                  XZ Premium 2017 with 3230 mAh and a huge 5.5" 16:9 4K IPS display has the same battery life as Samsung S20 in 2020 with a 4000mah battery, with newer 20:9 2K OLED which is marketed as Super Energy Efficient!

                  If OLEDs are so battery efficient, and 2k resolution is less battery heavy, so tell me why does 3230 mah + 4k resolution + old SOC + old UFS + old battery profiles last same as 4000 mah + 2k + new SOC + new everything ?

                  MAYBE BECAUSE RESOLUTION IS NOT A BATTERY HOG?

                  OH NO IT CAN'T BE.

                  You're here trying to say 4k is a battery hog. You can't prove it and hence calling me a clever girl, LOL.

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                    • 12 Jun 2020

                    You have got to question the motivation of certain posters spending all day hanging around a comments section criticising a phone they don't even like. Don't believe the crap. Always try the phones before you buy. Go into the shops and compare screens and cameras if you can.

                    Most tech you tubers are paid by one company or another. Companies also pay people to slag other companies products off in comments sections like this. Take everything with a pinch of salt and make up your own mind.

                      Smithravi, 12 Jun 2020Interview excerpts from Sony’s Xperia 1 II development team... moreIn other words - DRAM was expensive, nobody was using it anyway, so we droped it ... deal with it scrubs.

                        Interview excerpts from Sony’s Xperia 1 II development team

                        On the lack of super slow motion recording:

                        We designed the video recording features in the Xperia 1 II around the needs of cinematographers and other video creators. The vast majority of the time they were using slow motion at around 4 to 5 times slower than real time. 960fps can’t be used for recording long scenes, so it was decided that 120fps (shot at up to 2K resolution) was enough.

                          Smithravi, 12 Jun 2020"Premium Gaming smartphone"- may be. But premium flagship (... moreWell simply being expensive is one of the dictionary definition of the word "Premium". And as far as gaming devices goes, makers like Asus and Xiaomi put all the best features they can offer in their ROG and BlackShark gaming devices.
                          Whatever, this isn't a linguistic website so we don't need to discuss about it here. So I'm ending it here.

                            I can't believe the latest arguments are re-igniting the 4K screen, HRR, the current status and target consumer of Xperia 1 II, and the naming scheme again and again despite being told and explained for times and times. For goodness sake, people!

                            4K has been staying on Sony Xperia for 5 generations already since Z5 Premium, why questioning now? Where are you before Xperia 1 II? HRR, even highly powerful SD865 unable to render 4K@90Hz, odd... Sony probably wants the application of HRR at 4K as well, not just FHD+ (all for one, not separated). 90Hz MBR is the current countermeasure to tackle the lack of proper HRR while waiting for the successor of SD865 to enable 4K@90-120Hz for 1 II's successor.

                            The status of Xperia 1 II is a halo-flagship premium device since the beginning, due to being an Xperia "Premium" heir lineup. Its price was never cheap (north of 750 USD). It falls the same stratification as Vivo NEX, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Samsung Galaxy Note. The market target for Xperia 1 II is also a niche and segmented, not general like the S20 series or iPhone 11 series. It's either for Sony-Alpha users, professionals, photographic and cinematographic enthusiasts, users who want manual controls over their phones, want their phones to look "different", and who wants complete-package flagship for 2020 (headphone jack, MicroSDXC, no-notch/punch-hole, versatile cameras, IP68/65 rating, front-facing stereo speakers, notification LED).

                            And for naming scheme? They borrow their naming scheme from Alpha and RX series since their involvement in the development of new-gen Xperia in 2019, so the Alpha/RX naming scheme should be expected here. I know it's unfamiliar, but when the target market for this phone is already specific, well you can't argue with that.

                            I know your perspective on 1 II, Sony nay-sayers and I'm deeply aware of it. Opinions to theirs. But the number of arguments in the comment is just got me to wonder again and again. Why?

                              TheGoldenMellifluous, 12 Jun 2020Well, they borrow over the naming scheme from their Sony Al... moreTBH it does make more sense compared to let's say Samsung or Apple naming conventions.

                                Vineet Reddy, 12 Jun 2020You are underestimating the 4K display and the quality incr... moreYou are greatly exaggerating your capability to see individual pixels or the raster.
                                I hate that PR B$, but there is a general PPI rule that does define image as sharp.
                                You are wasting power above certain PPI and you are wasting power with more than 300Hz screen.

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                                  • 12 Jun 2020

                                  Useless screen resolution, and bad 21:9 ratio. And superxpensive price for an inferior brand like this.
                                  Too bad.. you will fail again.. sony.

                                    saved, 12 Jun 2020>>4K is useless on a 6,5" screen - being amoled with ... moreYou are underestimating the 4K display and the quality increase you get from it. You think it is not noticeable then you are wrong. Going from 2K to 4K the quality difference is noticeable as it is going from FHD to 2K. 80% of time more than 80-90% of people use the smartphone by holding it around 6" away from face and at close distance it can be easily noticeable the difference in quality.

                                      Drigo, 12 Jun 2020And yet Sony keeps picking weird names for their flagship p... moreWell, they borrow over the naming scheme from their Sony Alpha and Cybershot RX series from 2019 since Sony Alpha teams now co-developing the new generation Xperia to bring all possible goods, especially software from their Alpha to the Xperia to showcase the technology they have and developed. That's including the naming scheme, of course, will be present here (with the format of "Sony [product] Mark [Iteration]")

                                      I can get over with if you're not familiar with the naming scheme because the naming intended for professionalism and unorthodox for general utilization, but you should at least expect this from the beginning when the Sony Alpha teams are involved during the development of the new-gen Xperia.

                                        saved, 12 Jun 2020>>4K is useless on a 6,5" screen - being amoled with ... moreNo, you can't check it.
                                        There is a difference in battery size, display size, Android version, battery profiles, different brightness, different SOC, different UFS versions etc.
                                        Yeah, sure it's all just a screen ... clever girl.

                                        Raising resolution increases required power -> more power -> more power consumption.
                                        Check what iPad Pro is doing and how it affects its battery life.
                                        Bigger number mentality is just sad, it's 2020 and people still fall for it.

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