Sony Xperia 1 II
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  • 01 Jun 2020

They say that there is no option for 4k60p in regular video app?
You have to use the video pro app to get 4k60p but can you record 4k60p in 16:9 AR ?
I got the feeling that if you use the video PRO app you get the cinema AR 21:9 when recording 4k.
So the question is can the phone record 4k60p in AR of 16:9 or are you stuck with 21:9 in the PRO app?

    joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... moreSamsung & Other Chinese brands will not even able to use AF used in Sony Xperia for next 4-5 years. That's what I call generations behind.

    Plain 8K at 24fps is worse than 4K HDR 30fps. Period. 8K is a gimmick for pools.

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      YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020S20 sensor is 2 generation behind in terms of "noise" at hi... moreThat was only silly replay to that guy.
      But about AF, Canon need 3 years to make similar AF like Sony (Sony A9 -> Canon EOS-1D X Mark III). Samsung engineers working hard to copy that. Premiere - next year.

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        joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... more>>can't shoot 8k

        Sony shoots 4k at 90mbps
        Samsung shoots 8k at 80mbps

        This fact alone can prove sony to have more detail in 4k than samsung in 8k, wake up

        and professional cameras have 200-400mbps in 4k, and 1000-2000 mbps in 8k

        whereas sony's 4k@90mbps is, say, at worst, quarter quality of a professional camera, samsung's 80mbps in 8k are not even 2,5% of a professional camera.

        What is your point?

          Ali Bashir, 01 Jun 2020Lol, can't shoot 8k? your phone can't even stream 4k, and y... moreI don't understand what you are trying to say. 4K streaming has been supported since the XZP (maybe earlier)
          4K is higher bit rate than 1440p and 1080p. So even if the screen wasn't 4k, there is still more information per frame than 1440p or 1080p.

            joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... moreLol, can't shoot 8k? your phone can't even stream 4k, and you trolls been saying the 4k display on this phone is gimmick the whole time in the first place, LMAO.

              YogiBear83, 01 Jun 2020S20 sensor is 2 generation behind in terms of "noise" at hi... moreWell how you come up with that? How much time is a generation? No being rude here but i don't see this camera perform bad. Bit better than other flagships (sorry motorola, I love you but your flagship is bad at pictures) . And is it generations like each flagship camera released by sony?

                Finally a good phone. An actual good phone! They know their priorities: a very very good screen,in exchange for 90hz,which i wouldnt mind (kinda expensive to not have it, but it does so great at camera that i'm giving it a pass), fastesr chip,no need for those 16gb Ram, just 8, to not increase the price probably, excellent design and, probably the best camera on the market,software wise and photo quality. Great phone sony! Some photographers will buy it, other people i don't think so...

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                  joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... moreS20 sensor is 2 generation behind in terms of "noise" at high ISO, and 4 generation behind in terms of autofocus.

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                    joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... moreHow do you want 8K video on 12mpx sensor?

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                      joe nodden, 01 Jun 2020I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per s... moreyea please tell us about 1/1.7" sensors with 10ms full readout that came out in 2018 and allowed for electronically and optically stabilized 4k@60 without heavy cropping, 60fps exposure computing and 20fps burst photography.

                        NeonHD, 01 Jun 2020Oh man, I just realized how good this phone must be for VR ... moreThe Xperia XZ Premium was really nice with vr. It's probably one of the sharpest vr experience on a smartphone. I wish the lenses used for smartphone vr was better.

                          Anonymous, 31 May 2020So you didn't say that Sony's cameras are 2 generations behind? I did because they are. 60 exposure level adjustments per second and 20 fps burst shots aren't enough to change that. Can't shoot in 8K so that's a generation behind. And it has sensors that are only on par with ones from multiples generations ago. I'm talking 2018 here.

                            AlexP, 31 May 2020$350 cheaper and no security using web browser......oOoHhH nOoO. You don't have proper security when using the built it browser that nobody uses? HOW TERRIBLE!

                              Oh man, I just realized how good this phone must be for VR with that 4K display. Plus it's OLED this time, so it should handle VR wuite well. If only Google Daydream could come to Sony phones...

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                                • 31 May 2020

                                I don't know what I'm talking about. Sorry i had a severe lapse of judgment.

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                                  • 31 May 2020

                                  joe nodden, 31 May 2020No, that's your false point. I said word for word, "My point is".So you didn't say that Sony's cameras are 2 generations behind?

                                    Anonymous, 31 May 2020No, the. Point is, you are unable or unwilling to see what ... moreNo, that's your false point. I said word for word, "My point is".

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                                      • 31 May 2020

                                      mi 9t owner, 31 May 2020I have compared the photos made by gsmarena in the reviews.... moreUnfortunately the photos are taken on different days and even different angles most of the time.
                                      Personally I think the Sony manages noise a little better in darker areas, but still nowhere near DSLR quality (as would be expected) As for colour management you would have to be the one taking the photo to know which is the more realistic.
                                      But again different days, different light, different angles. (The simple fact of having a white car in the picture as opposed to a dark one, changes a lot in that area) Compressed files. As long as the photos look good enough to you, that's all that matters. And they both will be fine most of the time

                                        Ali Bashir, 31 May 2020Yeh you made a point, in fact, i have noticed many times th... moreLewis?
                                        Oh you mean that Lew Unbox Therapy guy...
                                        Yeah, well he is a hype YT machine, not much of a reviewer. But a little hype about a Sony phone for a change, doesnt hurt.

                                        Juan and TK review discussions are great and down to the ground.

                                        And Well yea, but its still overpriced. With that bundle not so exageratly much.
                                        I guess Sony is going en route keeping the premium price, for brand recognition among other premium priced (its a consumer psychology thing), but realising its too much, bundels in the expensive headphones to ay least ease the customers mind.

                                        Either way, after these couple early reviews Ive seen and read (not the lacking Arenas tho), I seriously consider to overpay for the overpiced. :D