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RishiGuru, 22 May 2020I smell a Sony fanboy. But their is nothing wrong with that... moreI take no offense in getting called Sony fanboy (though I'm a man now). I can proudly say I'm fan of Sony innovations as a brand.

Now coming to your raised questions, what you call 5% can be 80% for another. It is subjective. Good display, Accurate colours (videos,images,movies and games), camera manual, design aesthetics, no puncholes etc.,. these might be 5% for you but not for many including me. Minor details like no lag experience while using simple tasks (touch lags), water ip rating, microsd expansion, music app, seamless bleutooth connections... these are minor things yet annoying things in cheap mobiles. This is what I called user experience.
I have been using Sony Xperia for almost like morethan 8 years. I have used my friends mobiles samsung, apple iphone, realme, nokia etc.,,. Many features what they have recently added into their UI and made them wow, i have seen those features in Sony Xperia like ages ago. For example: Notification bar and in-built screen recording.

As I said, one must use the mobile for years and check other mobiles, only then you will notice the difference. I'm not arguing that 5 year old sony flagship is better than today's SD765 cheap mobiles from china. Of course today non flagship SD is more powerful than old flagship SD chips. Point is from the point of buying till you switch next mobile, one expects really nice experience. I'm not a fan of using multiple devices in short period of time. I would rather stick to 3 minimum years to a flagship than cheap mobiles. That's just me. I want that complete experience with no compromises (subjective, for you/gamers refresh rates could be high importance) for the whatever period I use that specific mobile.

    Smithravi, 21 May 2020The difference is the experience. Using the features of Xpe... moreI smell a Sony fanboy. But their is nothing wrong with that. I also rather be one than not. However blind fanboy-ism can be devastating. I have owned smartphones from different brands. Both flagships & mid-rangers. In the android eco-system I have used Sony, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Motorola and many Chinese brands like Vivo, Oppo, Xiaomi, Realme Lenovo, Meizu to name a few. I maybe had around 25 smartphones till date. I sold many I did not like.

    In the end of this long journey I have realized, no one mobile manufacturer is the best and very model of every make have some pros & cons. As a consumer being brand neutral is the best way to save my hard earned cash while being brand loyal I always end up loosing chunks of money. No manufacturer in reality cares for their fans (its a marketing gimmick, they only want more revenue), so why should I care about them. Better care for my hard earned cash. I also find a lot of Chinese phone haters here. And from their comments it is self evident they had never actually used a true Chinese flagship ever in recent years. However they go on commenting how bad they are. I just smile at how ignorant they are.

    I am an Indian and we have the liberty to access many of their true top-tier Chinese phones. Smartphones are like daily vegetables here, 10 new models launched per week. All smartphone brands through out the world just goes on opening new manufacturing units and locally manufacture their phones. Hence phones are also very cheap and we are frankly spoiled of choices. India being a very price sensitive market, Chinese phones obliterate others. Sony for example is unable to sell phones here and they went back. It is not to imply they make bad phones, on the contrary they make great flagship phones. Just their pricing is not right for our country. The latest Chinese flagships are so good now-a-days, maybe 95% as good as a top tier brand like Sony at half the price. I am taking 5% difference in software only, as in the rest they are same and sometimes even better. By just loosing 5% of the total experience factor I maybe saving around $700. Good save and totally worth rather than be a blind fanboy and buy a Sony or Samsung Exynos version.

    My comments are in no way to hinder your enthusiasm for Sony and to buy their latest flagship. I hope you get hold of one soon and share us some valuable feedback for others to buy.

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      • 22 May 2020

      The phone will launch in Japan tomorrow and the official price is 1120$ not 1200 euros.

        Anonymous, 21 May 2020yea logically it's supposed to be like that,the hardware st... more"Supports android 4 or higher". Android 4 is 7 yrs old now. Thats even more backward compatibility support than I thought...
        Well, I guess official 2 yr android mobile support is easily user safe 6 yrs in the future.

          Xperia 1 II – clearer audio with Intelligent wind filter:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_MHXpyIwA

          Xperia 1 II – effortless capture with Optical Steadyshot™
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L-ZoQ29Di8


          Photography Pro Full Pro Tips:
          Introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EErQ7vAX6po
          Program Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAz-xM7L6x0
          Shutter Priority Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqvxruy76Y
          Exposure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRyjNimNSxs
          Focus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ5-YX0IvQw
          Practice Shooting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpsg8laDZ2A

          These are the small details Sony really understands and all other flagships segments fails. Headphones jack, MicroSD expansion, Manual mode (though design and other features are subjective)

            Rameyuk, 21 May 2020True, but if I'm gonna use this mobile device for the next ... moreThe difference is the experience. Using the features of Xperia during that period is what makes any product worth the money. Same can be said to 1300$ laptops and 3000$ cameras.

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              • Anonymous
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              • 21 May 2020

              Telephone, 21 May 2020Sometimes its better not to update. Some drivers are more s... moreyea i know. i still using old laptop and windows 7 and tablet from 8 years ago with i don't remember jellybean or kit kat os. not having much time trying apps on those tablet so no idea about compatibility, mostly just for watching video and browsing

                Anonymous, 21 May 2020the problem would be the os. at most it'll only get 2 os up... moreSometimes its better not to update. Some drivers are more stable than others. So unless there is something in the update you need, you don't need update.
                Processors do not degrade over time (does not get slower). So it should last a very long time as long as the programs are supported and does not require too much resources. Also Apple did slow older phones via software updates in the past. (Apple got fined)

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                  • Anonymous
                  • sSV
                  • 21 May 2020

                  Tann Hauser, 21 May 2020My phone model is 4 yrs old now. Havent had any OS, securit... moreyea logically it's supposed to be like that,the hardware still alright for not really demanding apps but for some reasons sometimes that's not the case. i don't play games on my phone so i don't have any problem with compatibility and stuff that, but i do sometimes do banking and make payment from my phone, most of the time just chatting and browsing. so when this kind of thing happen, perhaps there'll be next
                  https://www.androidcentral.com/whatsapp-ending-support-outdated-versions-android

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 21 May 2020

                    Anonymous, 21 May 2020Majority of apps still support Android 2.3 and others. Ve... moreyou need to update your info bro
                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51329882

                    and for intel processors, pretty sure they released some patched on linux and windows, even windows 7 got that patches back in some years ago. that's why i said it's not about the hardware most of the time,it's the os, once they stop support, you're on your own

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                      • Anonymous
                      • Kxr
                      • 21 May 2020

                      Anonymous, 21 May 2020the problem would be the os. at most it'll only get 2 os up... moreMajority of apps still support Android 2.3 and others.
                      Very few apps (almost none) which require you to be on absolute latest version.

                      Unless a group of hackers specifically target you using the security hole or vulnerability (if it exists) which is not fixed through a security patch, you have nothing to worry about. The likelihood of such a thing happening is 0.00001%.

                      So lack of security patches don't affect the end user in the real world.
                      Ppl and several businesses used Intel chipsets for years without issues despite the Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities. As I said, unless a team of hackers specifically target you exploiting that security loophole, you are safe.

                      Ppl continue to fall for marketing gimmicks where they feel if they don't have the latest security patch, they are vulnerable or worse the phone becomes unusable after 2 years. These are the same people that can be hacked using a simple phising link and they are worried about vulnerabilities in the system that are less likely a threat.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 21 May 2020

                        an, 21 May 2020you dont understand. Its 1200eur,its a car price in some co... moreThe same can be said about any flagship. On others you pay 1200€ and don't get 4k. So it depends if you think high refresh is more important than overall sharpness. If you play games go for a high refresh if you watch films go for 4k simple. If Samsung and Apple can charge that price without too many complaints then so can Sony. Because depending on what's important to you they are all the best at something

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                          Anonymous, 26 Apr 2020yeah, as it's turned out just from reading this page, some ... moreyou dont understand. Its 1200eur,its a car price in some countries,if you have ultimate price you should provide ultimate feature,the main ultimate feature in 2020 is 120hz refresh rate. The 60hz screens is a 90's era,its not used even in 2002 military scope flir's.

                            Anonymous, 21 May 2020the problem would be the os. at most it'll only get 2 os up... moreMy phone model is 4 yrs old now. Havent had any OS, security or app support problems so far. Everything works.
                            Prior to this I had been using a model up to 5yr from release, same case, everything worked up until I got myself a new one.
                            So android updates or not after official 2 yrs of support, I assume one is safe in OS/security/app performance for 5 yrs after model release.

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 21 May 2020

                              Telephone, 21 May 2020Moore's law curve is flattening. So it will take longer to ... morethe problem would be the os. at most it'll only get 2 os updates, i'm not even sure about security patch support on android, and then comes the apps developers, that most likely would stop their support of their apps on older generation android, for older popular apps they might prolong their supports but for some newest trending apps that might be a problem.the hardware might be good enough but once the apps stop working just because they don't support the older os, that might be a blow. this kind of things might worth to consider, some people care, some people don't.

                              android supposed to be open source so perhaps the community have some guidelines about all that thing,emulator perhaps, or updating os and stuff,patching security all those but i haven't research that much

                                Rameyuk, 21 May 2020Did you not watch the keynote speech when they announce Xpe... moreObviously I didn't if I wasn't aware of a potential "Pro" version. Use common sense.

                                Also, as the other guy said: "Pro version wont even be sold as a consumer device, but as a proffessional video/photo tool in dedicated proffessional oriented stores only."

                                  Rameyuk, 21 May 2020True, but if I'm gonna use this mobile device for the next ... moreMoore's law curve is flattening. So it will take longer to see improvements in processing power and efficiency. The next Snapdragon may have 5nm. In the future, phones should still feel fast even after 4-5 years.

                                    Rameyuk, 21 May 2020True, but if I'm gonna use this mobile device for the next ... moreYeah, but 3 yrs ago youd pay 500-700 tops for the same flagships
                                    Now that level raised to 900-1200 for flagships.
                                    Thats almost double.
                                    Well, at least the 300 worth headphone bundle is here again.

                                    I ll wait and see what Xp 5 II will cost, and then decide.

                                      Rameyuk, 21 May 2020Did you not watch the keynote speech when they announce Xpe... morePro version wont even be sold as a consumer device, but as a proffessional video/photo tool in dedicated proffessional oriented stores only.

                                        Crackling Doom, 21 May 2020I have doubts about a phone as powerful and filled with pot... moreDid you not watch the keynote speech when they announce Xperia 1 Mk II? They literally said the other device they're announcing is the Xperia Pro.

                                        That being said, I like the Xperia Pro, but I don't want to buy it. It doesn't seem to be practical on a daily basis. It's designed for professionals with mmWave 5G technology, which to my understanding requires line of sight with the transmitter. It's cool and fast, but highly impractical. And it looks like a brick. Again, practical for professional environment. But not for daily use.

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