Sony Xperia 1 II
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Tann Hauser, 20 May 2020That price is like a wake up smack on my device liking smil... moreTrue, but if I'm gonna use this mobile device for the next 3-4 years, that's equivalent to $400 a year (assuming no depreciation in value). What's so different than getting a new Chinese phone every year? What is this need to upgrade phones every year to follow the "trend" out of fear being left out if you don't change flagship phones every year?

If you have a great quality phone that lasts years like most Sony Xperia phones, you don't need to upgrade phones that often. Battery still good, software and security patches are ongoing, no problems. I don't see a reason why you need a new phone. Yes it's expensive, but it's also last longer. In the end, everyone still get what they pay for.

    six_tymes, 20 May 2020i'm waiting for the PRO version. I have doubts about a phone as powerful and filled with potential as this one will have a "pro" version.

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      • 20 May 2020

      i'm waiting for the PRO version.

        Pretty much answered every complaint people been asked. Translate and Read

        https://japanese.engadget.com/xperia-004024073.html

          Anonymous, 20 May 2020Price will be 1198 in USA.That price is like a wake up smack on my device liking smiling face.
          Ah well...
          Hope there are enough other people ready to cash out that amount for a mobile.

            One Xperia 1 mkII commercial I really dig, that should be official:
            https://youtu.be/5O-0R0ezqx0

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              • Anonymous
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              • 20 May 2020

              https://androidnext.info/?p=4196

              Fingerprint scanner is new type indded. Not same used by XZ Premium.

                Anonymous, 19 May 2020The Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war betwe... moreCorrect!

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                  • Anonymous
                  • Lj%
                  • 20 May 2020

                  Price will be 1198 in USA.

                    [deleted post]I find it very impressive that Sony added 3.5mm, 20% larger battery, wireless charging (1*), better speakers (2*), larger main camera sensor + TOF, and 5G (3*) all in a package that is 0.3mm slimmer than its predecessor, Xperia 1.

                    1*) I'm not a fan of wireless charging, but it's nice to have.
                    2*) I assume the speakers are bigger because it uses a much powerful amp. (Dual CS35L41)
                    3*) 5G modem not integrated on 865 SOC, so it takes up space.

                      Anonymous, 13 May 2020Phones can in some way "expire", they can be outdated. When... moreI think the pattern is that Sony always have availability of their new phones during summer months in Japan. In that case, they need to know why they're focusing on Summer Release. It could be accounting purpose that impacts their "financial year" periods. So there's only two options they can take:

                      1. Announce the phone late to make it as close to the availability date as possible. There's a risk involved here, if competitors announce ahead of time, they could lose the hype and lose market shares as customers got their hands on other competitor's phones early. It doesn't matter if Sony made a superior phone, customers won't spend money for another phone 3 months after getting another flagship.
                      2. Move the availability date earlier to MWC or even January. There's also a risk here, logistics need to be taken care of well ahead. Especially if they're aiming for a global availability. Manufacturing needs to be at full capacity well ahead, but because there's no announcement, they can't analyse the market on the demand for the phone. Overproduction would drive Sony to even bigger losses. They need to know how much their phone is in demand, and how to create new demand for their phones and manufacture them in the right balance to ensure cost-revenue is reached and start making profits.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 20 May 2020

                        Anonymous, 19 May 2020The Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war betwe... moreExcept how China doesn't even need to worry about laws, public opinion, or a tarnished image if the Chinese government wants any and all access to any data that is processed or stored on any machine in the country.

                        You can at least fight for privacy with non-Chinese companies/devices. Look what happened when American companies had back doors exposed, they were embarrassed and fixed them. China will just host the data or even the encryption keys and freely give that data to their government without warrant or even justification!

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 19 May 2020

                          Nick.B, 19 May 2020So works for Europe and all World doesn't it ? What country... moreThe Huawei ban in US is all part of a giant trade war between US-China, nothing else.

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 19 May 2020

                            Nick.B, 19 May 2020My oppo find x2 pro just arrived and I just realised xperia... more0.2 inches diagonal?

                              My oppo find x2 pro just arrived and I just realised xperia 1 mark 2's screen will be too small for my needs :(

                                YogiBear83, 19 May 2020I dont stay on US side but chinese try to tell people that ... moreSo works for Europe and all World doesn't it ? What country has it's own production and owners of their companies are all from same companies. Machines are designed build and sold in this country and on those machines are done other production 100% from this country.

                                Non :)

                                We just focus on China :) Not defending China as well me

                                What China does to electronics is pariable does not matter on what machines. Nobody can match them. Also they do make innovation themselves. I do believe companies like Huawei did not steal tech. Why 5G tech of Huawei is 3 years ahead of US tech since it's done on same machines for making codes and stuff ? Not all is hardware and that's main problem for US

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 19 May 2020

                                  Telephone, 19 May 2020I was just trying to agree with you. Another thing to note... moreYes it does have proprietary charging.
                                  But it also supports PD since it has a Qualcomm chipset.
                                  So in absence of the VOOC charger, you can still charge with standard Qualcomm 4.0 charger albeit at lower 18W speeds.

                                  Besides, the good things is that the 65W charger is bundled with the phone(they better do if they charging 1200 Euros) unlike Samsung where you have to buy 45W charger seperately with only 25W bundled in the box.

                                    Anonymous, 19 May 2020 Since fast charging in early days was with increasing vol... moreI was just trying to agree with you.
                                    Another thing to note. The VOOC is a proprietary technology. Which means you will need to have a VOOC compatible charger with a supporting cable. For convenience, it would be better to have a standard charging system (such as PD). The thing i don't like about proprietary tech is that the company who patented the tech makes money off of it when smaller companies use it in their products. An example of this is Apples lightning connector. I have seen iPhone cables selling at a higher price than USB (micro and type c) from the same cable manufacturer.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • Kxr
                                      • 19 May 2020

                                      Smithravi, 19 May 2020Coming from an anonymous name. Have some guts to put your N... moreThe above comment proves that you don't have any better comebacks or rational arguments to debate with or any valid links to prove your points.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • Kxr
                                        • 19 May 2020

                                        Telephone, 19 May 2020How about this. I'm going to agree with you that OPPO has a... more
                                        Since fast charging in early days was with increasing voltage which increased heat which in turn plays the most significant role in battery degradation.

                                        If you read the article carefully, when they say, traditional, it means without increasing voltage (the thing that used to exist on non fast charging phones).
                                        But there is nothing traditional about the method as current is increased here which obviously wasn't the case with non fast charging phones.