Sony Xperia 5 V

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• DarlingYext
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• 08 Sep 2023

IQ200, 08 Sep 2023Because we have POCO's coming with almost flagship spe... more"I probably forget to mention a few brands like Cat, Vertu, Qualcomm, HTC, Fairphone and some others but they are not really mainstream."

How is Qualcomm not really mainstream? I mean first of all, they don't even make phones, it is a completely different company than the rest you mentioned.

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• 08 Sep 2023

PhoneFreak45, 08 Sep 2023Why do so many people assume this phone is cheap to make? H... moreBecause we have POCO's coming with almost flagship spec for 500€ so people think these are regular prices for a flagship phone. People also think chipset is the most important thing on a phone so if phone has a Snapdragon 8 then they must be flagships, which again is not the truth. There is no 500$ flagship phone. Except in China.

In my opinion it's not fair to directly compare chinese brands with non-chinese when we talking about prices as chinese brands will always have a better value. But what if someone want something specific which these chinese brands don't have? You can't say they both have all covered because that's not true.

Price wise Xperia should be compared with Samsung, Asus, HMD-G Nokia and Google Pixel as they are the only mainstream non-chinese brands. I probably forget to mention a few brands like Cat, Vertu, Qualcomm, HTC, Fairphone and some others but they are not really mainstream.

There is a valid reasons why chinese brands can offer such a value and non-cinese brands just can't. It's just impossible to do what chinese brands can because they do everything in their own homeland. Everything!

Xperia line of phones was never affordable. Even when they had solid market share. So what is the real problem for xperia? I would agree with what MKBHD has suggested in his last video about Xperia 1 mark V.
Xperia needs a mainstream phone like Pixel 6a so people can buy those and with that profit Sony could easily fuel the niche premium offerings. Until then, it's a stricly niche product for camera focused enthusiasts who don't use auto-mode too much and those kind of buyers will often have a couple of lenses and a mirrorless camera which only means they won't have too much problem with paying the higher price.

For those who want to say, but why would a photographer buy him self a phone to shoot when he already have better device for shooting pics or videos? Yeah, but phone is always with us and the camera is not. Phone is more practical. It's not better, just more practical in most cases.

On this site there is many tech entusiasts, but most of them are focused just on benchmark scores. Not many people have a passion for photography in here. I get that. We all have different interests and hobbies. This phone is hard to reccomend to regular buyers. Price is not the main problem. Practicality is. This phone is not practical for average user.

Also.. they are producing a very small amount of phones each year so that means they can't get price discounts on each component like their more mainstream counterparts can.

Their midrange offerings has to be a lot better then it is. You all think 1 mark V and 5 mark V are expensive? Hell no!

Take a look at the Xperia 10 V for 500€... now that's way more expensive then it should be. They should focus more on 10 series.

Just my 2 cents

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• 08 Sep 2023

Anonymous, 02 Sep 2023The xperia 5IV is already an almost perfect phone (I use it... moreInstead of talking sht why don't you type in your favorite browser to find a difference between quad bayer sensors aka 32MP+ sensors and regular standard bayer to see what's the difference and why ALL phone brands have made a switch ?

Hint: bigger pixels

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• 08 Sep 2023

Anonymous, 07 Sep 2023Lost interest when they removed Notification LED & Tele... moreIt's the Sony brand tax. Even the midrange Xperia phones have it.

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• 08 Sep 2023

sunnyboyo, 07 Sep 2023This phone should be like $500-600. Over a grand is kind of... moreDear child, it's called the Sony brand tax. It happens even for the midrange Xperia phones.

Also, two years of Android updates is a dealbreaker. I understand if it's some smaller company with a limited budget. But this is Sony we're talking about.

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• ingramli
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• 08 Sep 2023

PhoneFreak45, 08 Sep 2023Why do so many people assume this phone is cheap to make? H... moreJust want to point out 5V is equipped with SD 8 Gen 2 (Gen 3 isnt out until end of 2023), but to be fair, some chinese phones do offer a 120 Hz OLED screen AND a 8 Gen 2 SoC at around USD500 price point (such as the Nubia z50), of course some corners are cut (such as the OS software support and meh camera algorithm), on the other hand $ony does offer some of the best camera software in the industry, but whether that is worthwhile for the extra cost, is the question to be asked.

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• 08 Sep 2023

sunnyboyo, 07 Sep 2023This phone should be like $500-600. Over a grand is kind of... moreWhy do so many people assume this phone is cheap to make? High refresh rate OLED display, Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, 5000MaH battery, headphone jack + DAC, cutting edge main camera sensor, memory card slot, various custom software apps for taking full advantage of the phones cameras, and you want this for 500? Are you kidding me? Sony would be taking a serious loss if they sold it for that price, even if they moved a huge quantity of units. As it is, there's a limited number of people who will buy this phone. Whether you think the hardware should be different or not, that doesn't reduce the price of the phone. Disagreeing with the hardware decisions made, does not mean you magically get to pay less for the same hardware. There is no argument that mitigates this. Sony may be able to sell this phone for 900$, but they certainly couldn't sell it for 5-600$ and still make a profit.

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• 07 Sep 2023

This phone should be like $500-600. Over a grand is kind of absurd. You can get older but similar devices with the jack and SD slot for less than a third of the cost.

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• PhoneFreak45
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• 07 Sep 2023

Anonymous, 07 Sep 2023Lost interest when they removed Notification LED & Tele... moreNotification Led results in little to no cost reduction. We're talking cents of components here. Telephoto lens, would normally have a cost reduction, except the main sensor on this phone is far more high end than the previous model, so that easily eats the cost of the previous mediocre telephoto. I encourage you to learn a bit more about what it actually takes to bring a product to market, because your price expectations are rather unrealistic for a small phone company launching an enthusiast phone with cutting edge technology.

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• Anonymous
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• 07 Sep 2023

LOL, 07 Sep 2023Overpriced? Of course, it's the Sony brand tax. Onl... moreLost interest when they removed Notification LED & Telephoto Lens & not adjust the price for the removed features.

Hope this flops hard.

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• 07 Sep 2023

Since it's a Sony phone, expect to get it around Christmas time.

Assuming of course, it is available for your country.

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• 07 Sep 2023

PhoneFreak45, 06 Sep 2023Yeah I think it's rather interesting. On the surface i... moreOverpriced? Of course, it's the Sony brand tax.

Only the most hardcore Sony fans will buy this. Most other former owners of Xperia phones have moved on to other brands.

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• Anonymous
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• 07 Sep 2023

potentially my next phone, depending on how much Pixel 8 jacks up the price.

A compact phone with top-tier camera is hard to come by these days. And the Pixel 8 is losing a lot compared to the Xperia - chipset performance, battery life, storage space (i can add 1TB for less than $100 to the Xperia), heaphone jack, speaker quality...

It's a lot of compromises but if the Pixel 8 is priced low enough, I'll live with the compromises. And vice versa... if the Pixel 8 is priced close enough to the Xperia 5V, I'm willing to pay a bit extra to get all of the above.

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• PhoneFreak45
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• 06 Sep 2023

ingramli, 06 Sep 2023IMHO 10V is a very unconventional phone by today' stan... moreYeah I think it's rather interesting. On the surface it's a crazy good deal for the screen but also it's overpriced for the rest of the specs, but it also has great features to back up that screen like expandable storage and wired audio.

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• 06 Sep 2023

PhoneFreak45, 06 Sep 2023Yeah although it makes sense as a way to maximize profit. S... moreIMHO 10V is a very unconventional phone by today' standard, the screen is miles better than phones of its price range, on the other hand the SoC (SD695) is way worse than the competition (We are talking about a SoC used by sub-$200 class phones, not something you would expect on a $400 phone)....

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• 06 Sep 2023

Anonymous, 06 Sep 2023LinkedIn, netflix, Facebook, all of those third party apps ... moreYeah although it makes sense as a way to maximize profit. Sony doesn't move a lot of units. LG did the same thing .. seems to be common among phones with actual features. However, you can uninstall those services on LG phones, no restrictions on that. I don't know about Sony phones.

I'm not sure why the bezels are so thick. I don't see it as a deal breaker but if I was planning to keep a phone for a long time, I'd wait for the next gen just based on that. There's been some rumors going around that it's the same panel as the 10 V, which on the surface is a really bad thing, since it seems they cheapest out, but also the screen on the 10 V is really really good for its price class.

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• 06 Sep 2023

DarlingYext, 04 Sep 2023Can I not form my own personal opinion about something with... moreThey also removed the notification LED... So yeah your totally right.. glad I purchased 5 IV for 700 euros and guess what also the 256 GB version and no more overheating

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• Anonymous
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• 06 Sep 2023

PhoneFreak45, 04 Sep 2023When people on the internet say they're genuinely curi... moreLinkedIn, netflix, Facebook, all of those third party apps that you can just download on the playstore.

I didn't mean sony own softwares, video pro, cinema pro, all of those are good apps.

I mean third part random apps. Those apps like facebook, linkedin, etc etc. You can always download it later if you want. Its weird why they need to make it preinstalled.

And post is not completed yet now I read it again. I meant "To be honest, Even I hate punch hole design so Id rather have straight bezel. But the 1mm thickness on the sides is a lot, this is phones were talking about, especially compact phones. 1mm bezel increase is a lot and is pretty noticeable, at least for me, that's what I notice first when I saw the trailer."

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• Anonymous
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• 05 Sep 2023

AnonD-1001623, 05 Sep 2023Every country that has major Nuclear reactors dumps their w... moreTotally different from Directly Contaminated Water used in Meltdown vs Normally Operating Water Cooled Reactor (No Meltdown).

It's not about hating or transparancy either whether they are even telling the truth or not rather owe up with their failed safety measure, they unethically endangered the entire ocean ecosystem in the pacific.

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• Anonymous
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• 05 Sep 2023

rad3oN, 05 Sep 2023Why they ditched the tele lens? Oh dear this makes it signi... moreBecause a 2x crop on the 48MP main camera produces as good of an image, if not better.

Source: I have a phone with a similar arrangement (Zenfone 10). Definitely aren't missing a 2x zoom.

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