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  • SonyFan
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  • 07 Dec 2021

It's a shame that they don't sell in as many regions as they used to. If they adjust their prices and expanded upon the market, they might sell more of their devices.

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    • tu2
    • 07 Dec 2021

    joe nodden, 02 Dec 2021What's new on this phone? The trash 12MP sensor resolu... moreu know megapixels doesnt really matter in a smartphone. that's why the iphone 13 pro max is about on par with s21 ultra

      joe nodden, 06 Dec 2021There's that dumb mentality, "every other company... moreIt shows your hypocrisy, you're treating this as if Sony is the only one "lying" when all manufacturers have been doing the same thing for years. Suddenly when Sony puts it on a smartphone it's "lying". The sensor is there, they had reasons for not using the full thing which are actually fair reasons.

      I wouldn't expect you to actually understand how marketing works since you seem to fall for everything including "1-inch" sensors and the MP hype. You were the first person to comment on the hands-on review and complain about MP count, but then don't take into account that other manufacturers using QB also have an emulated 12MP count which makes your point irrelevant.

      If you go back in the comment section you can see what is the most important when it comes to camera hardware, which is: 1. Sensor size, 2. Pixel Size, 3. MP count.

        SuuperBaka, 06 Dec 2021["1 inch type sensor" and "1 inch sensor&quo... moreThere's that dumb mentality, "every other company does it so it's ok for Sony to do it"

          joe nodden, 06 Dec 2021"1 inch type sensor" and "1 inch sensor"... more["1 inch type sensor" and "1 inch sensor" mean the same dang thing.]

          Of course, they do, but that's part of marketing.

          I can see that you don't understand how marketing works. They advertised it as a "1-inch type" to make a sort of distinction for marketing. Almost all, if not all 1-inch cameras aren't actually 1 inch. It uses terminology from back when they used Vacuum tubes, and still use that to market it.

            jonoddenisatroll, 04 Dec 2021ok then read this :) https://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_sma... moreAnd why do you think that is? Why do you think I mentioned the pricing strategy change? Did you not understand a word I said?

              SuuperBaka, 03 Dec 2021"Hadn't realized they lied about the sensor size.... more"1 inch type sensor" and "1 inch sensor" mean the same dang thing.

                DevWarehouse, 06 Dec 2021I mean Sony phones do get hate on a normal basis, so camera... moreExactly, the camera bump will give them more ammo to use, but Sony phones aren't as bad as they make it seem. I still can't find a flagship offering headphone jacks and SD cards anymore, clearly Sony doesn't want to remove them.

                  SuuperBaka, 05 Dec 2021The bump here isn't that noticeable since they don... moreI mean Sony phones do get hate on a normal basis, so camera bump is just an extra to those giving hate to Sony

                    DevWarehouse, 05 Dec 2021Are people really arguing over a camera bump...The bump here isn't that noticeable since they don't use the whole sensor, but if they had to cover the entire thing then the bump would be pretty big.

                    Then you would get people calling the bump way too big and using that to fault the phone. It really doesn't matter what Sony does, they will get hate either way

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                      • Anonymous
                      • 4Y4
                      • 05 Dec 2021

                      No matter the high-end electronics, the physics of the optics limits the performance at the objective lens point: without a large objective little light (few photons) get to the sensor and the phone shot will never be as bright and clear as a much larger dedicated camera.

                        Anonymous, 05 Dec 2021Mi 11 ultra has bigger main sensor than 808. 1020 has a sma... more"Mi 11 ultra has bigger main sensor than 808."

                        and a bigger body as well.

                        "The reason bump isn't that noticeable is due to advancement is technology over almost a decade."

                        It's also because other parts are smaller and some things removed to make space for them, and the bigger bodies.

                        "Now its also wrong to say 1020,808 doesn't do pixel binning, give they output is 5mp and 8mp by default respectively. Look up PureView oversampling."

                        No it's not wrong to say that the 1020 and 808 don't do pixel binning. They DONT do binning, they do downsampling which is different. They use a regular Bayer for their cameras which is also why their bump is bigger.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • 3xv
                          • 05 Dec 2021

                          SuuperBaka, 03 Dec 2021They don't have a big camera bump lmao, a camera bump ... moreMi 11 ultra has bigger main sensor than 808. 1020 has a smaller sensor, and many phones on market today has bigger sensor than it, such as pixel 6/6pro, s21 ultra etc.
                          On top of that, these new phones include multiple cameras. The reason bump isn't that noticeable is due to advancement is technology over almost a decade.
                          Now its also wrong to say 1020,808 doesn't do pixel binning, give they output is 5mp and 8mp by default respectively. Look up PureView oversampling.

                            Are people really arguing over a camera bump...

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                              • Bulbul
                              • XP2
                              • 04 Dec 2021

                              Really I love these camera bump and design I haven't seen these type of beautiful camera bump design really love it

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                                • jonoddenisatroll
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                                • 04 Dec 2021

                                joe nodden, 03 Dec 2021Huh? Are you slow or something? Obviously it should be chea... moreok then read this :)

                                https://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_smartphone_division_is_up_25_yoy_for_q2_2021-news-51628.php

                                  SuuperBaka, 03 Dec 2021They don't have a big camera bump lmao, a camera bump ... moreforget those old things, I'm talking about today's Mi 11 Ultra's 50MP 1/1.12", 1.4µm where the bump is huge; Mate 40 Pro's 50 MP, 1/1.28", 1.22µm and the bump is minimal here; The Pixel 6/Pro's 50 MP 1/1.31", 1.2µm where the bump is huge; Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max's 12 MP 1/1.8", 1.9µm; S21 Ultra's 12 MP 1/1.33", 1.6µm; S21's 12 MP 1/1.76", 1.8µm; all of them have camera bumps and I am talking about a 1/1.5" 24MP 4000x6000p sensor which is smaller than the mi 11 ultra and S21 ultra's sensors and this will have a slightly smaller size and the pp will be around 1.6µm and this can be comparable to the IMX718 20MP 3600x5400. for reference, OnePlus 9RT has a 1/1.56” optically stabilized sensor within a 8.3mm thick body. So you don't need to be worried about the BUMP! that's all from me.

                                    sohail shafayat, 03 Dec 2021Most 12MP (48/108MP) phones have a huge camera bump these d... moreThey don't have a big camera bump lmao, a camera bump that's big would be the Lumia 1020 and the N808. They have a big sensor and they don't use binning. Having the huge sensor requires you to have the lens for it.

                                      SuuperBaka, 02 Dec 2021"we have already seen excellent 41MP and 20MP sensors ... moreMost 12MP (48/108MP) phones have a huge camera bump these days. You can't name 5 names without a camera bump in 10 seconds, you have to ransack!

                                        Also @Joe Nodden,

                                        I agree with you on the pricing, it's expensive and should be lower, even if it's targeted towards a more professional audience.