Sony Xperia Pro-I
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- sohail shafayat
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- 02 Dec 2021
SuuperBaka, 02 Dec 2021Ya mb I didn't notice the misclick, it's 2.4, not... morewe have already seen excellent 41MP and 20MP sensors on Lumia 1020 and 950s backed by Qualcomm S4/808/810 SoCs & 2/3GB of RAM, so 24MP 1/1.5" sensors can be easily handled by today's flagship SoCs as standard. We already have the IMX718 20MP, which produces fantastic images, just need to make this type of sensors regular. you can check out the Huawei Mate 40 Pro ultra-wide images. if you can place this sensor behind an optically stabilized 24mm lens, you will get outstanding output!
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 02 Dec 2021
sohail shafayat, 02 Dec 2021It's 2.4, not 2.5 but I think that mobile photography ... moreYa mb I didn't notice the misclick, it's 2.4, not 2.5. The problem is that we are limited because it's also a phone. We either make the sensor bigger, or the pixels bigger, or we work on an insane AI to help capture multiple frames and stack them instantly.
Sure we have the same 12MP standard, but we're using phones at the end of the day. So our options are limited.
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- sohail shafayat
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- 02 Dec 2021
SuuperBaka, 02 Dec 2021"MP count is irrelevant to image quality but 12MP is q... moreIt's 2.4, not 2.5 but I think that mobile photography has reached its peak. no matter how large the pp or what the MP is, the result is more or less same. You end up at 4:3 boxy 12MP images and with slightly different color, color temperature, brightness, WB etc. And it's boring now. Same hardware Year after year.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 02 Dec 2021
sohail shafayat, 02 Dec 2021MP count is irrelevant to image quality but 12MP is quite a... more"MP count is irrelevant to image quality but 12MP is quite a tiny thing now"
Agreed that MP count is irrelevant but 12MP is still decent and usable for most things anyways.
"24MP sensor which will have a pp of around 1.5micron."
This phone has 2.5micron pixels, which is without binning.
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 02 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 02 Dec 2021If you think you can objectively say sensor resolution isn&... more"If you think you can objectively say sensor resolution isn't the most important thing in photography you don't know a damn thing about photography."
Except it's not the most important thing in photography. Go take some photography courses to actually learn so you can stop embarrassing yourself.
"No factor is objectively the most important."
Except it's the sensor size, there is a reason why FF performs better than APS-C, MFT, 1-inch, and smartphone cameras. The sensor size lets more light in than a smartphone.
"So there's resolution and sensor size."
It's sensor size, pixel size, and then resolution. Sensor size allows more light in the camera, and the bigger pixel size allows more light to be absorbed by each pixel. I'm not saying the resolution isn't important, but it's not the most important factor as you're making it out to be.
"This has a 1 inch sensor, however that's useless without a high resolution. A sensor with a 9x higher resolution and 33% smaller size is going to perform better as a result. (like on the S21 Ultra"
Maybe because it doesn't actually use the entire 1-inch sensor? So you're fine with complaining about how it doesn't use the entire thing in the review section, but now you want to assume that it uses the entire sensor? Very convenient of you.
"You can see it in GSMArena's camera comparison tool. Even in the worst lighting the S21 Ultra produces a better images in all areas over the the Pro-I."
Lmao? The colour accuracy is much better on the Xperia and it has less sharpening done. No need to be biased. Also, define "better".
"An scenario that should theoretically be better suited towards a larger sensor size."
Again conveniently ignoring the crop, but go on.
"Unfortunately, the Pro-I is crippled with a horrible resolution and fails to produce good images as a result."
Yeah, you need to get your eyes checked. The Xperia has better colours, the grass in the snail photos (in their reviews) looks much better than the S21 Ultra. Again the resolution had nothing to do with it since the S21 Ultra is binning to 12MP.
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- Anonymous
- K1F
- 02 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 02 Dec 2021What's new on this phone? The trash 12MP sensor resolu... moreNo one ever made a 1" 12MP sensor until Sony arrived with this phone.
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 02 Dec 2021
SuuperBaka, 02 Dec 2021"False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12... moreIf you think you can objectively say sensor resolution isn't the most important thing in photography you don't know a damn thing about photography. No factor is objectively the most important. There's mainly resolution, the focus, the sensor size, light, and exposure time. What you can say objectively is that if any one of those areas is too poor the shot will come out poorly. However, if we're arguing about what makes the cameras on this thing good or not, we can rule out exposure time, focus, and light. So there's resolution and sensor size. This has a 1 inch sensor, however that's useless without a high resolution. A sensor with a 9x higher resolution and 33% smaller size is going to perform better as a result. (like on the S21 Ultra)
You can see it in GSMArena's camera comparison tool. Even in the worst lighting the S21 Ultra produces a better images in all areas over the the Pro-I. An scenario that should theoretically be better suited towards a larger sensor size. Unfortunately, the Pro-I is crippled with a horrible resolution and fails to produce good images as a result. (y'know, a phone that, despite being absurdly overpriced, still costs $420 less than this)
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 02 Dec 2021
Alpha, 02 Dec 2021At least with this phone there's something new, with I... moreWhat's new on this phone? The trash 12MP sensor resolution? The mediocre 4500mAh battery? The overheating 888? None of those are new.
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- Viliam
- jD2
- 02 Dec 2021
1.800 usd for this, wow !!!!!!
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- sohail shafayat
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- 02 Dec 2021
SuuperBaka, 02 Dec 2021"False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12... moreMP count is irrelevant to image quality but 12MP is quite a tiny thing now, and the 4:3 image sensors are old fashioned too. it's time for a change, i would like to see a 1/1.5" 6000x4000p 24MP sensor which will have a pp of around 1.5micron.
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- Alpha
- 80i
- 02 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 01 Dec 2021Not 1, not 2, BUT THREE people have gave me with bs. And ea... moreAt least with this phone there's something new, with IPhone they increased the inner storage to 1Tb and called it a day.
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- Alpha
- 80i
- 02 Dec 2021
Ali Bashir, 01 Dec 2021Because it is a camera flasher not a torch in the first pla... moreIts also to preserve battery and lengthen the lifetime of the LED bulb!
- SuuperBaka
- q}I
- 02 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 01 Dec 2021False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12MP sen... more"False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12MP sensors while claiming their cameras to be their selling point. "
If you think MP count is the most important thing in photography then you have no idea what you're talking about. Sad how ur the first one to cry in the Xperia 1 iii review
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- Anonymous
- 8Kf
- 02 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 01 Dec 2021Not 1, not 2, BUT THREE people have gave me with bs. And ea... moreThis is much better than iphone. Do you want it to be cheaper?
Pro Max 128GB should be $990, not $1100 in USA and $2000 in other places.
1" exmor with few gigabites of DRAM is not cheap. Nor 4K screen.
This is not like chinese phones that cost $410 to be made and sold for $1200.
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- Anonymous
- 8Kf
- 01 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 01 Dec 2021False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12MP sen... moreQuadbayer that putputs 12/12.5 do not offer same detail level of bayer 48/50.
Also, brands like Apple, Samsung and google apply tons of sharpening to make you believe photos have better texture.
Go read photography websites instead of watching MKBHD or Supersaf.
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- Anonymous
- 8Kf
- 01 Dec 2021
joe nodden, 01 Dec 2021And in those same places this will be over $2000. Not my fa... moreIphone 13 pro max is closer to 5iii than closer to this one.
Sony does not sell in Turkey, India and South America, places of most expensive iphones.
And cheaper than iphone in China.
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 01 Dec 2021
Jay, 01 Dec 2021You complain about spend 2000 dollars on a phone. Where I&#... moreNot 1, not 2, BUT THREE people have gave me with bs. And each of the 3 times I did not care. Not in the SLIGHTEST.
It is not my fault you come from a terrible country with a terrible market. That doesn't change the fact that Sony priced this thing at $1800 when Apple priced their most overpriced phone at $1600. We're talking about corporate greed here, not your country's terrible market.
- joe nodden
- j5{
- 01 Dec 2021
Alpha, 01 Dec 2021Still better than Chinese phones!False. Chinese phones don't stick with measly 12MP sensors while claiming their cameras to be their selling point. Sony fanboys can overhype these sensors all they want, they can't deny the inferior detail that comes out of them. Gsmarena's camera tests prove it.
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- Ali Bashir
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- 01 Dec 2021
Dimitri, 29 Nov 2021I really like Sony. But always, ALWAYS smartphones Sony hav... moreBecause it is a camera flasher not a torch in the first place, thats why every single Xperia phone have the same flashlight brightness since forever which is lower than other smartphones as you mentioned.