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I wish I didn't have or need to use protective case and glass, they namely spoil the joy of holding/using the phone. I hope manufacturers find a solution to this annoyance. I usually don't drop my phones, but you never know... Accidents are there to happen!

Some people never clean their phones, it's disgusting. I use my phones as a TV. I don't like seeing my fingerprints on the panel while watching TV, so I wipe them at least once a day. A protective glass becomes more of a necessity, because the physical wiping will ultimately wear the sensitive panel otherwise, irrespective of how the wiping is done.

And by the way, I want to thank all the contributors sharing their knowledge/experience on this thread. I actually learned something new. I never thought of a thin plastic or metal frame having an impact on the signal, that was an interesting piece of info, because waves are capable of penetrating several thick walls and concrete.

    DarlingYext, 04 Nov 2023"Can you show sources for your claims of better signal... moreIn general yeah, but i wanted to see him try it out since hes a indian phone reviewer, to see if the gaps in metal frame are enough to keep up with plastic.

      pl2rts, 04 Nov 2023Metal frame also heat up faster cause of your body heat whi... moreHeat goes from high temp to low temp. When you're gaming is your body hotter than the phone? What are you talking about holes? They have nothing to do here. Glass also conducts heat better than plastic.

        DarlingYext, 05 Nov 2023"Is there tools to compare better reception for the an... more"That's true, that can happen, has happened before, but it shouldn't happen, and doesn't always happen. On the other hand phones with plastic sides are less durable everywhere, not just where the antenna lines would be on a phone with metal sides."

        For the antennae lines it makes a cap between metal even tough it's tight it is still a weak point as a crack while plastik frame is solid all around. But yeah the weak points should be around the power and volume buttons.

        Also for the case i rather have it all sides and not for the sides protection but the phone screen protection as the chance to that the higher edge protect the screen. I dont see much of a point for the cases that dont have edges covered as that will protect more of the back of the phone and only corners. Also i dont want to get the protection glass on my screen as that makes the phone like 1mm thicker. I had that at first with my old phone Redmi note 5 AI and i didnt like it. The already installed screen protection film is enough for scratches but wont protect the screen on impact probably as the extra added 1mm thick glass would protect more but then again the last time i actually dropped phone was back in the day when i had Nokia 5210 and thats like 20 years ago and i used it for as long till the 4G phones come out

          pl2rts, 05 Nov 2023Is there tools to compare better reception for the antennae... more"Is there tools to compare better reception for the antennae ?"

          Most likely yes, but not accessible for the average person.

          "Also would that mean that the budget to middle class phone just have cheaper antennae ?"

          Yes, and the reception depends on the chipsets too.

          "I will most likely have the phone in the case anyways."

          Same, but what I prefer and thus use, are the types of cases that don't cover the sides of the phone, there is no need to protect that anyways.

          "..that antennae line can make the phone no so durable and be bendable if these be like in the middle and then be a weak point."

          That's true, that can happen, has happened before, but it shouldn't happen, and doesn't always happen. On the other hand phones with plastic sides are less durable everywhere, not just where the antenna lines would be on a phone with metal sides.

            DarlingYext, 04 Nov 2023"Can you show sources for your claims of better signal... moreIs there tools to compare better reception for the antennae ?
            Also would that mean that the budget to middle class phone just have cheaper antennae ?
            Also i would think that when you need the antennae lines then that restrict you in the phone inside where you place the antennae as they cant place it in everywhere cause that antennae line can make the phone no so durable and be bendable if these be like in the middle and then be a weak point. There can be a lot of argument.

            I dont really care for the material on the phone is it metal or plastic as that is not something i look for when i buy a phone. I will most likely have the phone in the case anyways. Like i have now in the case the F5 come with. Also i am waiting my wooden case that i ordered from aliexpress like few weeks ago. I would of went with nilkin but it was too expensive for a case. Something 10 euro plus shipping and the shipping was over 10 euro. I got a 4 euro case that had wooden back but i picked it cause it had the side gripp texture that i wanted so i dont much care is that back or it wooden texture or not. As most cases dont have the side gripp texture and it was only like wooden back or the nilkin case

              Mediatek sux, 04 Nov 2023The hot af metal frame dissipates heat better, while plasti... more"Can you show sources for your claims of better signal reception?"

              I think he just meant, in general, if so he is partially correct, if he didn't mean it like that, then he is completely wrong. Either way, it doesn't make much sense, reception depends on way too many things, to just say that plastic is better, especially because usually high-end phones have better reception, which have metal frames.

                pl2rts, 04 Nov 2023Metal frame also heat up faster cause of your body heat whi... moreYes, the metal frame heats up faster and easier than the plastic ones, but not the phone itself with said frame.

                  Mediatek sux, 04 Nov 2023The hot af metal frame dissipates heat better, while plasti... moreMetal frame also heat up faster cause of your body heat while you cover two sides of the phone with your hands where usually also are the holes for speakers and microphone so your hands are blocking these holes.

                  I dont know much or anything about thermodynamics but it makes sense.
                  Glass sandwich and metal frame where are glass holds heat well and also amplifies it in under direct sunlight.

                  Also if you talk about having a case then that will drap the heat even more in your phone

                    Man with mostauche, 03 Nov 2023Plastic is superior than those metal frame phones. And its ... moreThe hot af metal frame dissipates heat better, while plastic traps it. If you are seriously gaming on a phone, no reason to prefer plastic. Its not like the metal will burn you, especially if you have a case.

                    Can you show sources for your claims of better signal reception?

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                      Plastic is superior than those metal frame phones. And its not like the plastic like in a chair, its a strong plastic you see on those motorcycle helmets. Basically in terms of strength, plastic frame durable as F.
                      Plastic frame also handle heat way better than metal frame. While metal frame feels cool when not use, but during gaming when the temp are rising, metal frame gets hot as F unlike plastic.
                      Plastic frame recieves way better signal than metal frame. Thats why you see plastic "antenna" band on those iphones just to get better signal. Better signal but doesnt compare to plastic frame when we are talking about signal strength.
                      Weight. Lighter phone is always better than heavy. If you drop a heavy phone, chances are the glass screen will crack. Lighter phone is more durable pound for pound wise.
                      Price. Plastic is always cheaper and better.

                      The only advantage I can think of metal frame phone is the 'premium' quality feeling. However, in every criteria plastic phone is better.

                      -sincerely, a Indian phone reviewer who has a ton of phone.

                        DarlingYext, 02 Nov 2023As if you needed to be strong to handle phones that weigh l... moreFitness dumbbells also dont weight a lot the small ones so phone just helps you out

                          Mediatek sux, 02 Nov 2023Nah, just that his right hand is really jacked up.As if you needed to be strong to handle phones that weigh little over 200g..

                            JimmyTheGreatest, 31 Oct 2023Are you a bodybuilder or what...Nah, just that his right hand is really jacked up.

                              JimmyTheGreatest, 31 Oct 2023Are you a bodybuilder or what...The interesting, or I guess underwhelming part is that I'm a small guy with fairly small hands and I love one-hand typing on my 7 inch, 80mm wide vivo, then again sometimes it does feel risky, so I have to type with two hands, but I can one hand it as well if I want to.

                                DarlingYext, 31 Oct 2023It's specifically because it's softer and lighter... moreAre you a bodybuilder or what...

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                                  JimmyTheGreatest, 31 Oct 2023It's good that you own several brands/models, because ... moreExactly!
                                  https://www.androidauthority.com/photographer-phone-camera-quality-3330606/

                                    Spanky, 31 Oct 2023I actually prefer plastic frames and it is something I take... moreIt's specifically because it's softer and lighter is why I dislike plastic frames. I prefer heavy phones so I know for sure I have it on me, I know exactly where it is, and when I'm holding it, it has a substantial feel. However I can completely understand why some prefer the exact opposite, but when I'm holding a lightweight phone, so under 190g, it just feels like I'm holding basically nothing.

                                      DarlingYext, 31 Oct 2023I know you said disregard the camera, but let's just s... moreI actually prefer plastic frames and it is something I take into consideration when buying a phone. If it has a metal frame, I will not buy it. I never understood what is the big deal with the metal frames. Not only is plastic softer, more pleasant to the touch, but it is also lighter, which is another important factor for me. I will never understand why some people prefer heavy phones, as if the increased weight gives them some sort of added value.

                                        JimmyTheGreatest, 31 Oct 2023It's good that you own several brands/models, because ... moreI am even worse then you on using a camera on a phone.
                                        I actually use the phone camera very rarely and even then for like take a picture of some product in shop to read the tiny text of description and use the camera as magnification and i need to take a picture as my hand shake so i cant read by just magnifying the camera to see whats written. Oh yeah once a month i take pictures of hot and cold water to see the numbers that i need to report and then pay for,