Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC
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- mustafa kashif
- sS5
- 07 Oct 2020
i am literally having such a hard time deciding should i buy a31 or poco x3 cuz ik if i buy a31 it will work nicely for 2 years straight but idk about xiaomi i dont trust the brand poco x3 is a really good phone but talking reliability here will it work same after 2 years?please guys help me.
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Ok i am giving up from here now . Its my roomies who are taking over from this point.
Had a nice discussion with you Mike.
1 more comment from me means my gadgets are in trouble peace
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- Be kyazi wanai che
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Again you're going with subjective views and anecdotes... moreI agree with you also.
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- Merwin Neil Fernande
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020Judging by what you have jotted down here .
You refuse to ... more+1
Well put
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- AnoM
- Eq@
- 07 Oct 2020
At the end of the argument, Poco brand is more like Realme brand, aim at lower price but with higher specs.
Me for one of course picking Poco by Xiaomi over others for the price per specs ratio. Of course, not every country are selling those smartphones equally for the same price.
No smartphone is perfect, and there always newer, better, and cheaper smartphone released in near future.
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020Judging by what you have jotted down here .
You refuse to ... moreCorrections
*$475 nor rm
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Again you're going with subjective views and anecdotes... moreJudging by what you have jotted down here .
You refuse to be a mi Fan boy yet you speak very high of them .
Cheap marketing at vendors , bus stops etc .
That's region specific .
May be in Malaysia or even in india do that but when it comes to gulf market there is a standard .
Here apple , samsung ,huawei, vivo and oppo all share a same standard for branding . Majority of the Xiaomi devices come without warranty if not all .
Your another statement .
You gave an example of ZTE and being a first at something .
There are 2 things
1 bring first at something and that's dead on arrival
2 You take a lead and the other follow .
What ZTE did is what they did everyone is trying and let me tell you it was not ZTE who brought the in display camera but a prototype of oppo , do a proper fact check first.
Next about apple and samsung .
Apple devices cannot be compared with an android one's .
That is a completely different eco system and they are ultra premium devices.
But when it comes to apple when was the last time you heard or have seen them coming up with something that shook the world . My memory is a bit weak so help me with that . Samsung at least on the other hand from copying apple designs has made a name in the mobile world with its innovative note series and great S line up . I am a bit worried about how you perceive things .
Huawei i mentioned a fluid os and do you by any chance have an idea about how big the Huawei is .
May be they will not be present in all the markets by the end of the year or so but what i stated is about the quality they provide .
Ok P40 pro or plus is without Google support no doubt about that but my point was the kind of devices they manufacture . Where does Xiaomi come close to that .
No they cannot and you know why because they know they can't .And going by my statement I said about the best devices without taking os into consideration .
P40 pro is master class device with an unbelievable camera and stunning display but lack of Google support is there but my statement will remain valid as I put Huawei in the list of innovators only and nothing else.
So better would be to understand the logic behind any statement and not reply to anything as per your perception .
Again mi 10 in its price range not providing optical lense at that price point .
You are missing on my statement here .
I clearly said it's a Xiaomi device and not a device someone would flaunt that its my $800 mobile . I wont invest that much in a mobile brand known for cheap advertisements in its devices and software full of bugs .
For me Xiaomi is better in the range of $200 to $300 and I believe there are many others like me who will accept that .
Mi 10 at 52k INR , 2700aed UAE or even 2500 AED and as per you 475 RM which is nothing but a white lie even the cheapest you can have will cost you around $580- $600 (128 gigs) and the highest would be $700+ for 256 gigs . Don't know how good Xiaomi is there that they can afford to provide this device at 475 in malaysia and more at other regions. Come on be realistic the mi 10 was shamed all over the world for its abnormally high price , be honest here .
Xiaomi could be better for some and can't but you cannot force everyone to like something that they don't want to .
Use in my opinion instead of providing a general statement .
I am here differentiating between more than 2 brands and not sticking to just one and then calling myself I ain't a fanboy . That cannot be digested.
Yes Xiaomi under the redmi brand used to provide the best value for money but not anymore except for the midrange devices . Poco ultra affordable introduced as flagship killer but later changed to smooth af.
For how long can a brand maintain ultra affordable price offering , learn from Xiaomi as they introduced the concept of advertisements in the mobile. How cheap is that ?
Now your one last statement that said obsolete dead on arrival phones ...
Do you really mean that or its the Xiaomi spark or love that makes you say so .
Dude you heard about find series of oppo , x series of vivo , p series of Huawei or just to remind you malaysia is not the whole world .
Xiaomi might be selling good there or even in india or any other part of the world or the whole world but that doesn't mean the other brands are of no use .
Coming to the numbers or global rankings Huawei is still at no. 1 with 54 m devices sold and Xiaomi selling 26 m in the quater and oppo and vivo selling 24mn and 22 men respectively .
So as per you 46 mn devices sold by oppo and vivo are dead devices or of no use right!!!
Now coming to the user base of oppo and vivo 70 percent people are in young age category and rest 30 are above 35 years of age . Hard facts buddy .
Xiaomi is officially available in 90 markets where as oppo in 40 and vivo in less than 40 markets .
Do you understand what i mean .
Numbers speak louder .
I will again say I am not here to bash Xiaomi but i am telling you there is more than just Xiaomi in the world .
And the way you are highlighting things about Xiaomi does make you no less than a fanboy.
I am neutral towards any device and will speak my opinions and the things that I will experience .
You don't have a vivo , oppo or even a Huawei device and yet you speak so low of them where as i am using all the devices and i know what brand is providing what stuff .
There is a difference between your statements and mine.
You speak outta love for brand and I speak after experiencing things .
First things first I will not invest a bill of $700 in a phone carved with either mi or Xiaomi on its back .sorry thats not me . I will look for brand value and innovative stuff .
For $700 i have plenty of options . If i would want to flaunt a device I will chose a Samsung , Google , Huawei , oneplus ,oppo or vivo
If i want performance and brand doesn't matter to me i will go for Xiaomi , realme and even asus .
And if want gaming
I have poco , iqoo , rog , balckshark another Xiaomi and a redmagic .
The question is there is much more in the market than just Xiaomi .
The only factor that differentiates them is the price point .
P.s
Iqoo is not only for mainland China . Check before you make a statement .
Its available in asian markets and its not a china exclusive anymore and would be available in gulf nation in the coming months ...
Peace
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- Anonymous
- MSJ
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Again you're going with subjective views and anecdotes... moreAgree with you on Xiaomi pricing for budget and fully equipped flagships. (often wrongly criticised +without knowing background) Even more applies to Europe where these Chinese brands not present so reading ppl asking for OIS or telephoto all the time on any phone sounds ridiculous, especially since they usually make wrong phones comparison. As for innovation, Xiaomi's under screen camera is ready to go and coming quite soon and I think it'll be good one.
(not trying to join all Chinese brands discussion here)
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- Mike Coxlong
- fIW
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020Coming to the innovations .
Xiaomi can't compete with... moreAgain you're going with subjective views and anecdotes man. You need to analyse based on pragmatic and objective truth. No the Poco UI is not the UI with the 'maximum complaints about the UI, lags etc'. Samsung does, because of all the bloatwares and the duplicate apps, own gallery, own app store etc, they are notorious for being laggy not even one year into ownership, which is unlike any other skin
"xiaomi can't compete with vivo, oppo and huawei?'. What? With the tiny device portfolio and the incompetence in the high end market, it's more appropriate to calll Oppo and Vivo a marketing company. Being first at something? Well ZTE has been the first at something for a while now, first at having under display front camera, but does that represent anything of value to them? Why hasn't Apple or Samsung the first at anything? Are they not innovating? And coming to Huawei, boy, are you wrong. Huawei phones without Google support is dead-on-arrivals especially if you're not mainland Chinese. Their flagship P40 Pro depreciates so much it's laughable. Latest news is Huawei is shutting down its mobile phone division following the continued US sanctions. So you tell me, do you really believe yourself when you make that statement?
Mi 10 series being expensive at $800. In Malaysia the Mi 10 could be had at $475 or even cheaper on line. Mi 10 doesn't have optical lenses. You know what other phones at sub $500 that doesn't have optical lenses and way more overpriced? The whole range or Vivo, Oppos and etc. At least you're getting flagship stuff from a Mi 10. The Mi 10 Pro however, checks all the right boxes at $800. And if you think it's expensive, the Find X2 Pro is $1000 and has the same spec as Mi 10 Pro. Also, being expensive is relative these days as the truly expensive high ends are often $1000-$1400. $800 flagship is therefore considered cheap or cheaper.
On the Xiaomi not being innovative with its varied ecosystem. Well it's a hell of a lot better than Oppo and Vivo that I can tell.
Does all this makes Oppo and Vivo a bad company, no. But it definitely emancipates the lesser known truth that Xiaomi works hard to give the best value to its customer through its ecosystem and phone offerings, and that Oppo and Vivo are marketing company disguised as phone company with its original intention of being a cheap chinese phone maker has turned into a chinese phone maker who sells exceedingly overpriced and outdated obsolete dead-on-arrivals phone to pay for their egregious marketing campaign.
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- Mike Coxlong
- fIW
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020I dont know about your country but leta be honest here with... moreI'm in Malaysia, we're pretty lucky with all the attention that we have from xiaomi and especially the strong ringgit which makes a lot of phone prices relatively cheaper. Xiaomi regularly does flash sales and so does Oppo and the rest. They have many concept stores here where you can experience all of their ecosystem which is varied, high quality and competitively priced. It's much more varied than even Huawei, Apple etc. All this points to a conclusion that Xiaomi, unlike Oppo and Vivo, knows how to use their resources properly, instead of investing a majority of it on pointless advertisements, they put it on innovation. Oppo and Vivo on the other hand, you might as well call them a marketing company since they will put ads everywhere, elevators, buses, cheap street vendors, third rate shopping malls etc. Not even Apple or Samsung is stupid enough to waste money on that. The result of that reckless spending has made their phones exceedingly overpriced and dead-on-arrivals. They are no longer the 'cheap chinese phone maker' we used to know. Their phones are either cheap low ends or overpriced mid range. The IQOO series is for mainland China only so it doesn't count. Their phone portfolio is mediocre and they are basically invisible in the high end segment, unlike Xiaomi with its Mi 10 series. I'm not necessarily a Xiaomi fanboy, I just have to state the obvious. I came from a long list of iPhones and only lately, LG V50 and Poco F2 Pro.
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020I dont know about your country but leta be honest here with... moreIgnore the grammatical errors . At times my phone tries to act smart and changes the words itself .
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Vivo Iqoo Z1x is $340 in my country and vivo Iqoo series is... moreComing to the innovations .
Xiaomi can't compete with their chinese brands that's Vivo, oppo and Huawei ...
They are only in the market cuz of their low prices .
I love them for what they are offering at a price which other brands can not even think in their dreams .
But that changed with the mi 10 series right .
An 800 dollar phone with no telephoto lens and they had to advertise about the phone being without advertisements .
Coming to innovations
There are only 2 names who have been coming up with new technologies and the others are copying .
Full screen displays by Vivo nex
The world followed
In the age of 5 v 1 amp charging oppo launched a vooc charging concept that was 5 v 4 amp ... 30 minutes full charge or i guess it was 25 minutes full charge when devices took hours .
Elevating cameras , in display fingerprint technology , , rotating cameras, best selfie cameras to amazing rear cameras.
Dual front cameras , fast charging with highest security standards .
A tooth brush , shoes , bags , mi air purifier and bla bla bla are not innovations ...
Xiaomi is known as apple of china because its copying apple and its products .
There is no innovation dude.
Nex from Vivo , find X by oppo , mate 30 pro by Huawei are master pieces .
While Xiaomi was busy eating up the mid range market .
The rest of the brands cemented their positions in the upper mid range and high end market .
Xiaomi is late to that segment .
I will purchase an mi 10 pro if it's made available for $400...
That's how I see Xiaomi a brand with ultra affordable products and insane specs .
But since realme and iqoo has hit the market the Xiaomi brand is not seen as the only option by majority .
I am an end user i will keep purchasing devices but what i have shared here is my analysis that i have done either by talking to people or by reading articles or watching reviews and the comments that follow them .
The last best device by poco was a poco f1 and by Xiaomi i dont remember them making any good devices with good prices now.. yeah redmi note 9 deserves some applaud for its price , but add a few more bucks you will get an ad less mobile with a fluid os from none other than realme ...
At the end of the day we consumers are getting benefited but chosing a device wisely is what is required .
Patience is the key
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Vivo Iqoo Z1x is $340 in my country and vivo Iqoo series is... moreI dont know about your country but leta be honest here with the vivo z1x pricing and the poco x3 nfc ..
They are both retailing for $270 .
I have paida $270 for poco in uae .
But at the same time if you compare it with iqoo z1x its not where near to what iqoo is offering .. from insanely hrr of 144hz to blazing fast 5g.
Now one more thing you said that we end up paying for there advertisements .
I will pick up a device with funtouch os or color os over miui or poco ui anyday .
Reason they are fluid and smooth with zero lags and almost no bugs .
The present version of funtouch os is near to stock os.
May be you got the best deal of $190 but not everyone would be lucky .
Here we are getting it for $270 .(6/128)
For $270 I don't see it a worthy device except for a 732g processor , great loudspeakers and hrr with 240 touch sampling rates ..
There is nothing else that amazes me .
I am using poco , oppo ,samsung, vivo, iphone and a Huawei device .
Out of all i will tell ya
The haptic feedback on poco is very good and can be compared to samsung and apple only compared but at the same time they are more premium but i love what poco has done here .
Huawei , oppo , vivo and apple they are lag free devices .
Samsung has slowed down with time .
Poco is full of bugs .
Honestly if I will get a chance to pick any other device over poco x3 nfc ,i will chose a device which is compact and light weight , my personal preference .using this device for longer durations will hurt your hands for sure. But at the same time i don't see any other option but a device from mi only and that's mi 10 lite ... Nothing beats that , yeah !! you will miss the hrr on 10 lite .. but you will get superb cameras , great battery and a wonderful amoled display ...
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- Mike Coxlong
- wc6
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd , 07 Oct 2020Ok lets break it down in this way .
Coming to vivo , oppo ... moreVivo Iqoo Z1x is $340 in my country and vivo Iqoo series is technically bound only for China market. So good luck with your warranty claim. Poco X3 is available everywhere. A lot more than Vivo IQOO that's for sure.
To compare the V20 Pro ($450) with Poco X3 ($190), for $260 more you're getting a slightly better processor (765G vs 732) but you lose great stereo speaker, 4000mah instead of 5160mah, 60hz amoled which has been around since 2008 instead of 120hz and 240hz touch sampling previously available only on >$1000 phones, no headphone jack and no memory card, and if we're being honest, worse camera and video recording capability. To me, that's a downgrade and by a pretty long mile. And you're paying $260 more.
And let's be honest here. You're not paying more for premium with Vivo or Oppo phones. You're paying more to help them pay for the egregious advertisements they have lol. Still they have to cut cost by using an outdated processors. Imagine if they had gone for 732 like Poco, it must be $600 - $700.
And let's be even more honest here. You said Oppo and Vivo are expensive because you paid for their innovations? Xiaomi has a whole ecosystem riding on their back. You name it they got it. Hell they even got cars and gaming laptop coming up. They are more innovative that Oppo, Vivo put together.
Let's be honest here.
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- Mike Coxlong
- wc6
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd, 07 Oct 2020No doubt i chose Poco x3 over a realme 7 pro .
The reason... moreHonestly the 120hz is great on this price point. But to be even more honest, I think its useless. It eats up battery quite a bit and it's hard to see the improvement even side by side. I would prefer an amoled over this but 120hz comes with 240hz touch sampling which is nice for gaming, which this phone intend to excel at. Let's hope xiaomi can continue to make great phones at cheap prices and not end up like Oppo, Vivo, or god forbid, OnePlus.
(Oppo Reno 4 Pro has a Snapdragon 720G same with Redmi Note 9S, and it retails at $580, thrice the price of Poco X3)
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020Let's put it all down.
1. Vivo V20 SE, a ' com... moreOk lets break it down in this way .
Coming to vivo , oppo etc
You know what you are trying to do here .
See poco is in a different league you just can't compare it with a vivo v20 pro .
If i will go for a v20 pro i will definitely take design and other things like display , features and after sales in to consideration .
Going for a v20 pro means casual gaming but a phone that has beauty with brains .
Poco on the other hand is cheap .
In xiaomi devices one thing is common and that is damn advertisements .
Coming to the aftersales of a xiaomi device ... everyone knows thats the worst part.
Vivo oppo has a premium price tag cuz they invest in innovations . What does poco do .
Gives you the best specs on paper but the device gets better after several updates as they provide a half baked os with their devices . Poco is the brand which has the maximum complaints about the ui, lag , features not working , camera issues etc but what does the oppo and vivo provide a final os thats complete with a near to 0 percent of flaws .
Poco has a different audience where as vivo and oppo has its own audience .
Color os and funtouch os has emerged from a laggy os to a near to perfect os now .
Camera quality on vivo and oppo cant be matched by poco any day...
They are charging premium for the features .
Xiaomi still doesn't provide the carrier aggregation with its midrange devices but x3 has it i guess its a 2ca but at the same time vivo and oppo unlocks every premium feature in their upper mid range devices .
Yeah they chose the outdated chipsets to cut down the already high costs even i hate that but the quality is not compromised for the sake of performance .
If you will ask me about a gaming phone better than poco x3 then you should look for a vivo iqoo z1x or vivo iqoo series on ali express .
Nothing beats that .
144 hz refresh rates 44 to 55 watts charging .
240 touch sampling .
All at a nominal cost ...
Just dont compare a poco with a device which doesnt even compete with it.
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- Fahd
- Hxi
- 07 Oct 2020
Mike Coxlong, 07 Oct 2020You need to see things more objectively. Let me put it down... moreNo doubt i chose Poco x3 over a realme 7 pro .
The reason is that x3 is a complete package but then one should understand that on paper its a beast but the reality just hit me hard .
Few things i wanted in x3 which are present in realme .
1- Design and back matte finish unlike the fingerprint magnet in x3 prone to scratches. You have to use a cover any way that adds to the already available bulk .
2- Compact size
3- A plain back instead of this ugly huge poco figure .
I know for sure the 120 hz stutter will remain there as it remained in 730g poco x2 ...
Finger's crossed lets hope for best .
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- Mike Coxlong
- wc6
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd, 07 Oct 2020That seems a lot of praise for this little monster but what... moreLet's put it all down.
1. Vivo V20 SE, a ' coming soon' $300 midrange Vivo has a shit snapdragon 665. Same with Redmi Note 8, Realme 5, Xiaomi Mi A3. The V20 Pro with Snapdragon 765G is about $450.
2. Oppo A92, $300 midrange released May 2020, has a snapdragon 665. Same with the above.
3. Oppo A93, another newly released $330 midrange, has Mediatek Helio P95. It scored 200,000 in antutu v8, worse than Snapdragon 675 (210,000 antutu v8).
4. Oppo Reno 3 Pro, $550 POS midrange, also uses Mediatek P95.
The $190 Poco X3 NFC beats all the above with some more trick up its sleeve.
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- Mike Coxlong
- wc6
- 07 Oct 2020
Fahd, 07 Oct 2020That seems a lot of praise for this little monster but what... moreYou need to see things more objectively. Let me put it down for you and everyone to see.
1. Poco X3 has Snapdragon 732. Thats at least 10% faster than 720G which Realme 7 Pro AND Realme 6 Pro has. Credit where it's due.
2. Poco X3 has 120hz IPS LCD. Realme 7 Pro has a 60hz Amoled. Amoled are great but you can't deny the fact that it suffers from yellow and green tints, black spots and burn ins. I owned several oled panels that has all kinds of issue. Is oled worse than lcd? No, but a 60hz oled has been around since Nokia first introduced it in 2008 with Nokia N85. HRR is a newer tech and new is always better. 120hz IPS and 240hz touch sampling is therefore, better than a standard 60hz amoled panel. Credit where its due.
3. Battery life. Poco X3 has 5160mAH, Realme 7 Pro has 4500mAh. Credit where it's due.
4. Stereo Speaker. Poco X3 stereo speaker rivals the 11 Pro Max. It doesn't have Dolby accreditation but the quality speaks for itself. Realme 7 Pro is just loud and according to smartprix .com, you're better off listening through earphones. It's just loud. I'd say this is a tie though. Credits where its due.
5. Charging speed. Realme has 65watt fast charging. They are fast. I'd give it to them. But the 33watt on the Poco X3 is not a slouch either.
So you see, the only thing the Realme 7 Pro has over Poco X3 is the charging speed. And its $330 vs $200 for Poco X3. I actually got mine at $190. That's 75% more expensive. You're really paying 75% more for a 65 Watt charging with the 7 Pro and you'll get a more inferior product than a $190 Poco X3.
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- Syed Kazim
- sy3
- 07 Oct 2020
can anybody tell me the quality of 3.5m jack. I am talking about the audio quality of this set as gsmarena mentioned the 24 bit chip is included in this mobile. Is there any external DAC in this set just like MI 9T and other LG phones.