The punch hole screen camera is the way forward

30 December 2018
In order to have a good-looking phone from the front, we have to go through some unpleasant notch and cutout stages.

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AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018Again, calling someone dense while repeating dense argument... moreGo get some basic electrical engineering experience and then come back and rebut. Calling our kind 'developers' is frankly an insult. We design the hardware that puts up with the mounds of crud that 'developers' churn out. The fact that these systems run at all is nothing short of a hardware miracle.

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    • 30 Dec 2018

    Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018Read the question properly. It asks why you would ever even... moreThe gain is obviously diminishing the higher the pixel density gets, but even Apple has finally abandoned their decade old industry lie about "retina displays", because anyone with a fairly good eyesight can see a clarity difference between a "retina display" and a 1440p display.

    But that is one of the things you pay extra for on an expensive flagship device, to get that marginally better hardware.

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      • 30 Dec 2018

      Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018"someone who's done engineering experiments." God you're ... moreAgain, calling someone dense while repeating dense arguments doesn't really work. Try again. If you're really a developer you would understand the basic correlation between resolution and performance.

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        • 7tX
        • 30 Dec 2018

        AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018What? I think you're asking the wrong person here? I'm the ... moreRead the question properly. It asks why you would ever even need greater than 2160x1080 on a 6.5" panel. You're saying you need the high end SoC to push pixels. I'm demonstrating to you that those pixels are wasted and that it is in fact you, who is the unbridled glutton.

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          • 30 Dec 2018

          I wholeheatedly agree with these comments, if anyhting the designers attempt to score brownie point from their bosses and this is tultimately the result.

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            • 30 Dec 2018

            AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018You're the dense one here, mate. If the SoC is designed fo... more"someone who's done engineering experiments."
            God you're clueless. Change that to someone with 20 years experience under their belt that designs dashboard entertainment systems, many of which run, you guessed it - Android. The iMX6 SoCs I mentioned before? I'm about to do the same thing again with the iMX8 line.

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              • 30 Dec 2018

              Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018Let me also flip the question your way. You're asking, "why... moreWhat? I think you're asking the wrong person here? I'm the sensible one saying you don't need more than midrange processing power for a low resolution screen. You do need as much power as possible on a 1440p+ screen, for the obvious reason that you'd need to be able to manipulate every pixel at a good frame rate to make the resolution worthwhile.

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                • 30 Dec 2018

                AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018You're the dense one here, mate. If the SoC is designed fo... moreLost cause. Good luck in life. Let the record show, that an attempt was made to educate you.

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                  • 30 Dec 2018

                  Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018You really are dense. "as long as the SoC is designed co... moreYou're the dense one here, mate.
                  If the SoC is designed for high bandwidth, it's designed to run a lot more internal AND external hardware. That is why we need 4,000+ mAh hour batteries these days, because flagship devices draw that much power everywhere. We accept that as we can do THAT MUCH MORE on a big screen.

                  I'm also not impressed by someone who's done engineering experiments. I worked with computers back in the days when replaced components on mainboards to tweak performances on our home computers.

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                    • 30 Dec 2018

                    cheebc, 30 Dec 2018I can accept bezel, but I cannot accept a hole on the screen.Word

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                      • 30 Dec 2018

                      Disagree. The Mi Mix has it right.

                        I guess the author woke up late when the news about the first phone with notch was introduced. =D

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                          AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018I guess you also buy graphics cards like RTX 2080's for 720... moreBro you are way too focused on your PC game, smartphones are something entirely different.

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                            Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018It was sarcasm...No it wasn't...

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                              Frank846, 30 Dec 2018I don’t see how a punch hole or notch (big or small) is any... moreNarrow bezels are better than notches and cutouts. The latter are just bad attemps at reinventing the Wheel just for the sake of selfies. Even having a secondary screen is a better effort at that.

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                                Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018Honestly why do we even care about a 100% STB? having b... moreTo be honest, nobody lays his thumbs onto the side bezels. The thumbs are the thing to interact with the screen in landscape mode, and the other fingers hold the rest of the phone. By your logic, we would also need some huge side bezels to rest our thumbs on in upright mode.

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                                  • 30 Dec 2018

                                  It is getting silly, when there is like 2mm bezel people commenting like it is the worst thing ever, and company need any trick for marketing so they try to make bezel-less phones, i mean it is not the end of the world if there is a some bezel around the screen, if it serve function then why try to remove it?

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                                    Anonymous, 30 Dec 2018Honestly why do we even care about a 100% STB? having b... moreI blame tech sites like this and YouTube reviewers. Every time a new phone gets released they always say "now with smaller bezels!" and the end results is the abomination we have now

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                                      • 30 Dec 2018

                                      AnonD-762416, 30 Dec 2018I guess you also buy graphics cards like RTX 2080's for 720... moreLet me also flip the question your way. You're asking, "why do you need a top end SoC for a 720p screen" (as an aside, I never said I wanted a 720p screen. My M9 has 1080p on 5" - that would be just fine). I'm going to ask you, why do you need such a high resolution on such a relatively small panel? Are the already indistinguishable pixels on the 320ppi screen on something like the XZ1 compact really that bothersome to you that you require 500ppi+? And don't you dare say "but muh 4k content", because a) you don't have a 4k panel, so it's already being scaled down, and b) if you can see the pixels on scaled down 4k content on a 1080p/720p panel, I'll eat a bowl of feces. 2160 x 1080 on 6.5" panel would be >370ppi. If what I'm asking for is unbridled gluttony, what would yours be?

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                                        cheebc, 30 Dec 2018I can accept bezel, but I cannot accept a hole on the screen.+1