Qualcomm official says 64MP and 100MP phones are coming in 2019
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Pabliell, 15 Mar 2019Look no further than for Lumix CM1. It's a smart camera (a ... moreIts cool but outdated phone wise if Google used Huawei Mates sensor and combine it with Night Sight its enough to blow away everyone
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 2019Well, ..... Bigger module Bigger lenses More heat ... moreAdd a bigger battery and you can flush the camera bump, add proper cooling no need to worry about heat but there is no denying the quality of 1" sensor
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AnonD-558092, 15 Mar 2019You mean some actual improvement and not a play on numbers?Yes and MP are important too if you want to print your pictures
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Why? Does anyone print out their photos poster size?
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If more midrangers use larger sensors, this will pretty much closen the gap of camera performance between midrangers and flagships as low light photography is getting even better. Sure, the megapixel count is kinda a marketing term now but it works. Also, Google Night Sight is another way of improving low light shots.
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Talking about detail resolving, not a SINGLE phone camera until today can capture more detail than Nokia 808 (Lumia 1020 is exclusion). And that's without any fancy frame stacking nor other computational 'wonders'. If you have 12 mp, you have 12 mp and that's that. Can't add more detail, unless we are talking about HDR as recovered highlights and shadows.
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 2019They have dedicated image processors too. I have a pocke... moreWell thats what i am trying to say.
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 2019there is a common misunderstanding what pixel binning is (m... moreYes. Great explanation friend.
For example 10MP downsampled from 40 will give same results of 40MP.
With much smaller file.
Binning from 40 to 10 will give results of a 10MP photos.
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 201964 megapixels might make sense. Huawei's 80mm camera can ca... moreThough I need to say that a tele camera would still capture less noise at base Iso because the physical (!) focal length is higher.
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Mediatek sux, 15 Mar 2019So theres no use for binning? How come the rn7pro capture m... moreMore noise reduction = worse texture = softer image
Samsumg uses the strongest NR among all brands.
Binning only works when camera detects lower light.
If you choose 12MP it will be the same like any regular 12MP.
Also imx586 is more advanced sensor.
Made to give better output than regular 12MP .
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64 megapixels might make sense. Huawei's 80mm camera can capture more details than the 40 megapixel main camera (even when you shoot in raw, I compared sample images). As Huawei uses a 8 megapixel sensor for the 80mm camera, a (80/27)² x 8 megapixel = 70 megapixel sensor + a very sharp lens could deliver the same result, possibly even a lower resolution like 64. You don't need pixel binning for this sensor. You can simply add a normal 12 megapixel sensor, so in low-light conditions the 12 megapixel camera is used, which would lead to slightly better results than a 16 megapixel camera with the same sensor size in extreme low-light conditions.
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 2019there is a common misunderstanding what pixel binning is (m... moreSorry, I just made a mistake:
"48 to 12 megapixel pixel binning does not give you more details than a 12 megapixel sensor unless there is a lot of noise because pixel binning only gives you a noise advantage!"
The correct version is: "48 to 12 megapixel pixel binning does not give you more details than a 12 megapixel sensor, it only gives you less noise than a 48 megapixel photo downsampled to 12 megapixels."
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there is a common misunderstanding what pixel binning is (most reviewers make this mistake):
48 to 12 megapixel pixel binning does not give you more details than a 12 megapixel sensor unless there is a lot of noise because pixel binning only gives you a noise advantage!
do not confuse pixel binning with downsampling!
pixel binning combines pixels on a hardware level, so less pixels are read out and so there is less read noise! you don't get more details than a 12 megapixel sensor because only 12 large pixels are read out, which need to be demosaiced.
downsampling combines pixels on a software level, then you get more details than a 12 megapixel sensor, but more noise because all 48 megapixels are read out, which leads to more read noise
. the lumia 1020 simply downsampled (you can do the same thing with photoshop/lightroom).
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"That's the opposite direction to what devices like Samsung's Galaxy S10, Google's Pixel 3 or Apple's iPhone XS are going." No, it isn't. Of course a 48 megapixel phone that uses pixel binning can apply multi frame noise reduction. Huawei already does this. Don't confuse pixel binning with downsampling. Pixel binning reads 12 million large (!) pixels out, downsampling reads 48 million small pixels out and downsamples to 12 megapixels. Downsampling leads to sharper results than pixel binning, but with more noise. Pixel binning lets a 48 megapixel sensor behave like a 12 megapixel one, you don't get more details than with a 12 megapixel sensor unless you downsample, but then you get more noise in the shadows.
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Mediatek sux, 15 Mar 2019So theres no use for binning? How come the rn7pro capture m... moreSource? YouTube is not a source FYI
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AnonD-558092, 15 Mar 2019Higher resolution on same sensor size = smaller pixels even... moreSo theres no use for binning? How come the rn7pro capture more details than an s10 in daylight then, with 12mp mode?
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LLL, 15 Mar 2019It was 4MP, not 8MP. And the size of the sensor was only 1/... moreSomeone told me that htc phone 2019 ( maybe a 5G version of u12 or u13) would have extremely powerful cam.
They said they are not giving up.
They should start to pay toutubers or give gifts for better reviews, other do it.
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AnonD-731363, 15 Mar 2019And yet even 10 years old DSLR cameras made by Cannon or Ni... moreThey have dedicated image processors too.
I have a pocket Kodak. 1/2.3" 12MP.
It is weaker than current phones, but it has 3x true optical zoom.
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Anonymous, 15 Mar 2019HTC tried to use 8MP with more than 2.0 micron...
Big fail... moreIt was 4MP, not 8MP. And the size of the sensor was only 1/3". That's why it was a failure in execution, but not in the concept. Imagine in 2014 if they had used an 8MP (capable of 4K video recording) 1/2.3" sensor (around 1.9 micron pixel size), things would have been much different.
It's all academic now though. HTC is half-dead.
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Actually 100Mp sensor cannot take 100MP photos.
Mobile sensors are 4:3 , when you make a diagram to show the area used by 4:3 and 16:9 you can see the corners are wasted because lenses are circle.
Usually 12Mp pics come from 12.3 MP sensors.
More resolution = more pixel = more pixels wasted in these areas. Not counting the fact phones use cheap lenses , impossible to take advantage of real full resolution.
Not even real cameras lenses can ..