The 64MP tele camera of the Galaxy S20 is for 8K video, not 4-in-1 binning

29 January 2020
The Galaxy S20's 64MP tele will be used through cropping for pictures and 8K video.

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Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020You still haven't told me how iPhone is ahead in videograph... moreHow do I know which one is which one as you don't have a name. Normally I don't reply to someone who doesn't have a name.
But anyway I don't have to explain to you how iPhone is better than every other phone in video. You'll find it everywhere.

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    • 30 Jan 2020

    AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2020Well i understand that but small phones can have only small... moreEverything that has advantages , has disadvantages as well.
    What's important is Which advantages one seek to have and which disadvantages one can ignore.
    For me I can ignore low capacity battery anytime as long as it's not smaller than 3000mAH.

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      • 30 Jan 2020

      AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Everyone doesn't want to carry bulky camera with them all t... moreWell i understand that but small phones can have only small batteries.
      Unless we finds a way how an antimatter of size of a one piece of sand can be used to fuel and power your device phones gets only bigger.
      Also there is no sign of using irridium cells for now. The only power capable of refueling or renewing.
      Apart te antimmater which would and should provide infinite energy but is very unstable.
      Thus likely impossible to use.
      Like we cannot gather energy from two stars moving in space crashing into each other just for now.

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        • 30 Jan 2020

        Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020If you want to record 8k footage for an hour or so continou... moreWell tell that to a guy i was replying.

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          • KSu
          • 30 Jan 2020

          Felipers, 30 Jan 2020That's not entirely true. The iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro c... moreIt's not true hdr as the other user explained.
          You can see the difference on a big TV.
          Plus the display on iPhone isn't true 10bit either.

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            • 30 Jan 2020

            AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Sorry ! I was saying 1080@960fps. Sony has slow motion 1080... moreYou still haven't told me how iPhone is ahead in videography compared to s20.
            Cat got your tongue?
            You just triggered to hear facts about Sony Hence the typo.

              AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Who is Huawei again ? It seems I have heard this name somew... moreAnd how is this comment anything to do with what we're discussing here?

                S Yu, 30 Jan 2020That 720p is questionable considering the actual resolution... moreAn easier way to evaluate would be taking 1080p 960fps and 720p 1920fps footages in the same medium to low light conditions to see any exposure change. When it hits the sensor's max. supported ISO then the difference in shutter speed becomes apparent.
                Not quite sure why you like to talk so much about the resolution though, I mean Xperia 1's 720p/1080p super slow mo footage are clearly upsampled from 480p/720p resolution and my S10 spits out 720p footage that looks like interpolated 240p with tons of oversharpening. And comparing Mate 30 Pro and my S10 in the store, the former produces a video that is a LOT sharper (though a bit difficult to compare in terms of clarity since Mate uses UWA camera for super slow mo).

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                  • 30 Jan 2020

                  S Yu, 30 Jan 2020That 720p is questionable considering the actual resolution... moreOn that technical part, further proper test needed indeed.

                  But the 720p@1920fps samples i saw with my own eyes are downright impressive.

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                    • 30 Jan 2020

                    AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Who is Huawei again ? It seems I have heard this name somew... moreOh you forgot about it already?

                    Still doesnt change the fact.

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                      • 30 Jan 2020

                      Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020IPhone does 4K60 but doesn't do 4k hdr. Sony does 4k HDR b... moreThat's not entirely true. The iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro can actually shoot at 4k60 with HDR.

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                        • 30 Jan 2020

                        Shui8, 30 Jan 2020You forgot about Huawei Mate 30 Pro. It can do true 1080p@9... moreThat 720p is questionable considering the actual resolution of the output, it looks more like 720i, with additional line skipping above everything else.
                        I believe this could be tested for by evaluating the motion blur of a fast moving object. 720i@1920fps should have an actual shutter speed half of 720p@1920fps, therefore the motion blur would be twice as prominent. It would also be about a stop brighter but that's harder to evaluate due to the extensive processing of the output.

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                          • 30 Jan 2020

                          Shui8, 30 Jan 2020You forgot about Huawei Mate 30 Pro. It can do true 1080p@9... moreWho is Huawei again ? It seems I have heard this name somewhere.
                          But where !!!
                          Oh wait ! I remember it now.
                          Huawei's the brand which was banned by USA and can't use Google services.
                          Poor Huawei ! I kinda feel bad for them. Xiaomi and Vivo are getting most out of this.

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                            • 30 Jan 2020

                            AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Sorry ! I was saying 1080@960fps. Sony has slow motion 1080... moreYou forgot about Huawei Mate 30 Pro. It can do true 1080p@960fps as well, with capabilities of producing true 720p@1920fps, along with interpolated 7680fps.

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                              • 30 Jan 2020

                              Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020Others can't do 1080p@60fps? What are you smoking boy? E... moreSorry ! I was saying 1080@960fps. Sony has slow motion 1080p@960fps(others don't).
                              You should have guessed it's 960, not 60.

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                                • 30 Jan 2020

                                AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2020Well man but camera is something completely different. Ev... moreEveryone doesn't want to carry bulky camera with them all the time. I don't even like the bigger smartphone(like s20 ultra).

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                                  • 30 Jan 2020

                                  AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2020Advancements in battery tech and fast charging - - - > i... moreIf you want to record 8k footage for an hour or so continously, better get a professional camera.

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                                    • 30 Jan 2020

                                    AnonD-754814, 30 Jan 2020Seriously ! Are you saying one shouldn't do 8k because it ... moreWell man but camera is something completely different.
                                    Even the 150 euros cannon or Nikon does a lot more and lot better photos than your desired phone no matter if it will do 4 or 8k.
                                    Just for example Nikon D405 can be bough for 250 euros now but even the best Samsung device in next 5 years wont do even as half as good photos as this camera.

                                    And even the best phone in next 20 years wont beat Mark III by Canon company.
                                    Instead of having a cellphone for 1500 bucks one should buy camera for 1500 or camcoder it will be a lot better and viser choice.
                                    Phone can replace many things but each of theses things if we speak about middle or high end class is a lot better than a phone can be.
                                    Like that camera comparison.
                                    Best navigation from TomTom for example will outbeat navigation from a cellphone no matter app you will use.
                                    Same goes for many else.
                                    Just sayn.

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                                      • 30 Jan 2020

                                      Anonymous, 29 Jan 2020Oh wow, you already know it's gonna drain BATTERY to zero w... moreAdvancements in battery tech and fast charging - - - > ignored.
                                      Man battery is the same like before its else Li-po or Li-lo unless the phones gets graphene batteries or irridium cells nothing wll change. And charging speeds have nothing to do with how long your battery will lasts. more times you will charge your battery faster it will drain and endurance will get lower thats the fact.
                                      There is no battery tech. Battery is just battery.

                                      Latest chipset with latest ISP consuming extremely less power - - - - > ignored.
                                      Well i can understand that SD865 will consume less battery but still set to 8K it will be drained within a hour. Sony Z5 premmium for example set to 4K died from 100 to 0 in roughly 42 minutes brand new phone.
                                      This is 8k and uses far better CPU than Sony Z5 premium had 5 years ago. But still it will last less than a 3 hours using 8k technology only.

                                      Cooling solutions provided on modern smartphones - - - > ignored.
                                      Cooling is great for long gaming sesions not for photography.
                                      Using camera wont make your phone heating bigger like gaming for several hours.

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                                        • 30 Jan 2020

                                        Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020Xperia does not do 4K60 for same reason Pixel 4, Mi9, OP7 d... moreIPhone does 4K60 but doesn't do 4k hdr.
                                        Sony does 4k HDR but doesn't do 4K60.
                                        Pixel doesn't do either.

                                        Samsung meanwhile giving both 4K60 and 4k HDR.
                                        That's called real CHOICE.