Samsung developing a massive 1" 150MP sensor, Xiaomi phone with it coming in Q4
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- Anonymous
- tu6
- 17 Mar 2020
Xiaomi is having fun being samsung lab rat lol
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- Anonymous
- LQu
- 17 Mar 2020
Whackcar, 17 Mar 2020Screw this NonaBayer crap. This doesn't compete with the na... moreSony Semicon will allow companies to buy the 1" sensor used by compact cameras.
Sony RX100 I, II and III used 20.1MP non-stacked, same used by old versions of RX10 series.
I do not know if Canon compacts uses 20.1 MP too.
- Whackcar
- 6QD
- 17 Mar 2020
Screw this NonaBayer crap. This doesn't compete with the native 40MP beast that Nokia put out 8 years ago. S20 Ultra was an epic fail, but they still wanna continue on that direction.
Hopefully someone else will develop a proper 1" sensor with QB approach instead. Not only would that provide better detail with 37.5MP snaps, it would also allow proper 8K video (8K requires 34MP~)
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- Anonymous
- ILe
- 17 Mar 2020
AnonD-762416, 17 Mar 2020You don't have to mention the potato processor that was the... moreThat's not the case at all
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- Leo
- XUi
- 17 Mar 2020
The s20 ultra clearly proved that this technique has reached a point of diminishing returns.
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- Anonymous
- ILe
- 17 Mar 2020
Pabliell, 17 Mar 2020And once again GSMA forgot that we already had 1" sensor in... moreYup. Just like they removed the 808 from the dinghy chart so others could get better scores rather than being impressed by how long it held a lead.
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- tonyy77
- mt3
- 17 Mar 2020
3k$ DSLR Nikon D850 has only 50 MP, crazy to think phone cameras will be 3x better quality soon.
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- Anonymous
- ILe
- 17 Mar 2020
Shanti Dope, 17 Mar 2020To eliminate a lot of software-based HDR processing and per... moreActually pixel size of 3um in a single Bayer array would perform all those tasks way better.
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- Anonymous
- ILe
- 17 Mar 2020
This is becoming ridiculous. With a 1 inch sensor they'd be the only ones to match the Panasonic cm1. That is huge. But making it over 150mp is such a waste.
If they made that about 40mp with dual pixel focus, ois, and their dual aperture it would smoke the competition. It would produced very detailed photos. But still have large enough pixels to operate nicely in low light, hdr, exposure, noise, etc. And it wouldn't need to be so aggressively processed.
The 108mp of the s20 ultra still can barely match the 40mp Nokia 808 from about 7 years ago! That's sad
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- six_tymes
- kvH
- 17 Mar 2020
going to be great looking video, more accurate color saturation, and finally phones will have much less warping of images. (fish eye affect)
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- Anonymous
- ILe
- 17 Mar 2020
Shui8, 17 Mar 2020The high resolution megapixel count purely to fool average ... moreOr at least 40mp which would still give around 1.8um... Give or take.
A whopping one inch sensor and still poor resolution results? That's sad.
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- Alex
- aXx
- 17 Mar 2020
My Nokia 808 destroyed s20 ultra image quality
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- Shui8
- KZK
- 17 Mar 2020
The high resolution megapixel count purely to fool average joe & marketing purposes are getting ridiculous.
This is not a medium format sensor for godsake. We already saw how wasted S20 Ultra has done to the sensor. Just put 20mp with 2.4 micron pixel size with that 1" sensor without pixel binning and call it a day!
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- g3L
- 17 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 17 Mar 20209 x 16 = 135 Where did the 15 MP go?9x16=144. where did your maths go?
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- Mobilemaster
- 0C9
- 17 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 17 Mar 20209×16=144OK. I did not calculate it but I knew it is less than 150 MP. :D
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- Shanti Dope
- C9a
- 17 Mar 2020
M, 17 Mar 202012MP with 3 micron pixel size would be better. Why need for... moreTo eliminate a lot of software-based HDR processing and perform HDR capturing on the sensor instead.
Combining the light signals from 9 pixels and forming into one super pixel would mean a great boost in dynamic range.
It also explains why the S20 Ultra takes less flat-looking images compared to last year's S10/Note 10 series.
The HDR is still working, except less software enhancement is performed this time, making the final result more realistic even if it means less eye-catchy.
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- Anonymous
- 8pc
- 17 Mar 2020
Mobilemaster, 17 Mar 2020Good point bro. :D Something is not OK.9×16=144
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- Anonymous
- LQu
- 17 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 17 Mar 20209 x 16 = 135
Where did the 15 MP go?Image circle of lens does not cover whole sensor.
You lose corners.
150 is total count, effective is always lower value.
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- Pabliell
- mN{
- 17 Mar 2020
And once again GSMA forgot that we already had 1" sensor in the Android realm.
Lumix CM1, by some called a smart camera, was actually an Android phone with compact camera capabilities and was a response to Galaxy K Zoom.
It was a proper flagship back then, with SD801 and 2GB of RAM. The rear camera was a 1" 20MP sensor, with pixel size of 2.4 micron. And all that released in late 2014.
Compare that to Galaxy S5, released the same year, but with a tiny 1/2.6" sensor.