The Snapdragon 875 will reportedly support 100W fast charging, cost dearly

29 June 2020
There are rumors of a significant price hike. The fast charging will be geared towards gaming phones, which typically have large batteries.

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  • Nxp
  • 01 Jul 2020

Re: 875 pricing,
factors that increase production cost - State of the art process node requiring more time per wafer. Larger high performance core + larger 'big' cores - larger die, fewer chips per (already more expensive) wafer. Projected performance increase vs competitors. Near monopoly on the Android SoC market.

While greed and a captive market are certainly factors, there are legitimate reasons for the price increase as well. Add to that the increased complexity of 5G modem/amps/filters/antennas and things get even worse. Hopefully Samsung Semi and Mediatek can win more designs in the coming years to put downward pressure on the discretionary portion of Qualcomm's increases.

    $250 seems too high for what is essentially just a faster chip, almost a 60% price boost, but depends on what exactly will it pack!
    Think about it, if it comes with 4K240 video recording, and maybe 4K960 short, 1080p960 unlimited. (Actually, Apple will have 4K240, that made me expect the same)

    It still means we will be able to see $700 Chinese phones and around $1200 starting price for proper brand flagships.
    Roughly in India, the Rs. 37000 worth IQoo 3 will cost around Rs. 45,000.

    But wait... did we add that a flagship can't have even other mid range components?? 12GB RAM, 256GB UFS 3.1 on the base version... All this will also cost dear!

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      • Anonymous
      • Nxp
      • 01 Jul 2020

      "the company is expected to release a Snapdragon 865+ next month. It will increase its prime core to 3.09 GHz, quite a boost compared to the 2.84 GHz clock speed of the current S865 chips."
      Quite a boost?? it's an 8.8% frequency bump! There must be architectural changes as well, otherwise why bother? I'm doubtful many(/any?) would be able to tell that one phone was an eleventh faster than another unless they were benchmarking.

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        • AnonD-754814
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        • 01 Jul 2020

        Spanky, 30 Jun 2020Still, I expect the 865+ to have a 100K boost, when compare... moreOkay, If SD865+ is launched we'll see.
        My guess is 20-30k boost at best.

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          • HonestCuriosity
          • nNJ
          • 01 Jul 2020

          Doesn't 100W give more problems than advantages? Price vs earned convenience?

            Maame Raggae, 29 Jun 2020If it doesn't beat Apple's A-series chip, price is not just... moreof course it is not going to beat, it is ludicrous to even think to sell chip for 250 dollars and not even fastest one, the world is mad

              Game over, 250 dollar just for the chip with modems are they high? No wonder flagship prices are insane, FU qualcomm, people should stop buying their garbage, they want cheap phone with top chipset but crying if phone does,not have qualcomm, well maybe stop crying and support mediatek as this is ridicolous

                Anonymous, 30 Jun 2020All of the wasted space packaging 10 individual cells would... moreThis is all subjective based on the technology available

                There was a time when dual cell technology made no sense

                Here we are now with phones commercially Available with twin batteries

                remember how a few kilobytes of storage was this massive object?

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 30 Jun 2020

                  MagicMonkeyBoy, 29 Jun 2020Erm... Excuse me... But the A78 micro architecture will roa... moreAnd what do you know about A14?

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                    • Anonymous
                    • xHb
                    • 30 Jun 2020

                    Android-Master, 30 Jun 2020SD865 Already beats them in real world performance. Alrea... moreSD875

                    Already beats them in real world price before arrived

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 30 Jun 2020

                      IpsDisplay, 29 Jun 2020What if they have 10 small batteries charging at 10w each i... moreAll of the wasted space packaging 10 individual cells would mean lower overall runtimes, and increase the risk of a bad cell rendering the pack unusable.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • k2v
                        • 30 Jun 2020

                        Anonymous, 30 Jun 2020I dont agree with any person who says that this SoC is expe... moreBruh
                        This SOC is really expensive for a PHONE, for The $250 this will cost you could buy a ryzen 5 3600 and have nearly $80 left. And no the SOC doesn't include RAM

                          The_Joker, 30 Jun 2020100 W Fast Charging !, Am I the only one who is sensing ... moreKABOOM!!!

                          Who wants to bet on which phones will be catching fire first. Will it be Samdung or a Chinese brand?

                            AnonD-754814, 30 Jun 2020SD865 has a score of around 560k and SD855 had around 460k ... moreStill, I expect the 865+ to have a 100K boost, when compared to the 865. Then, the 875 must provide another ~150-200K boost (over the 865+), to be truly a new generation chip.

                            I'm basing my assumptions on the X1's power, plus the rumoured price increase of the new SoC. Keep in mind that Qualcomm already knows the performance numbers and they set the prices accordingly, more or less. It doesn't make sense to have a small performance gain, but a ~65% price increase (even with the 5G modem built-in). They have to justify the price.

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                              • kvH
                              • 30 Jun 2020

                              "plus three Cortex-A77" ? I thought this was to have A78?

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                                • 30 Jun 2020

                                100 W Fast Charging !,

                                Am I the only one who is sensing the repeat of SAMSUNG NOTE 7 !!!!

                                  Blackk Mamba , 30 Jun 2020Heat suppression tech is outdated technology. Modern phone... moreLet me guess, some brand fanboy? how about headphone jack it is too old, is it outdated?

                                    IpsDisplay, 29 Jun 2020Hold on, is there any videos demonstrating this?Of course, search heat Suppress Sony xperia 1 mark 2, this is one of many videos.
                                    https://youtu.be/ol7yVXxFRd8

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                                      • 30 Jun 2020

                                      Anonymous, 30 Jun 2020I dont agree with any person who says that this SoC is expe... moreIs nothing imposible in the future the charging will be faster in the minutes or seconds due the maximum capacity batteries do you have

                                        Road to the death of Qualcomm. Time for flagships to be reaching the $2000 mark. What will just make this useless is if the upgrade is not much. MTK time to flood the market.

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