The jury reached a verdict in Apple vs. Samsung case

24 August, 2012
After short deliberation, the jury decided in Apple's favor. Samsung should pay $1.05 billion in damages.

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  • Anonymous
  • v0q
  • 27 Aug 2012

Zayit, 27 Aug 2012By Miyoung Kim/Reuters Seoul: While Samsung Electronics... moresamsung is the sole supplier. but apple can just contract another manufacturer. apple just have to license a manufacturer to produce chipsets according to apple's apple architecture.

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    • blueglue
    • D1S
    • 27 Aug 2012

    AnonD-25929, 27 Aug 2012Wont be long like that my friend the reliability on each ot... moreApple, in the near future cannot replace samsung from their supplier list. There are very few companies which manufacture quality Products inside the SOC. As you assumed,Apple has to get it's 'Own Unit' to produce a equally quality SOC ( entire SOC) like Samsung, else it shall lose the rep and market. Apple cant take the risk of changing the vendor to some nameless chinese chip maker(no offense meant).

    Talking about the future, Samsung themselves are self sufficient and attimes finds difficult to manage the supplies for their mobiles , in addition shall definitely get a class leading client.
    Samsung have quite few new Designs in Concept and few are ready for mass consumption. Apple will not be able to get near them and with no Master supplier it will be difficult for them to catch up with the latest tech(leave aside the marketing tricks and few goofed up followers).
    To me, i see that Apple will be at a bigger loss in long run, Samsung will definitely see a dip in their profits (Profits only), but have more chances to bounce back very soon.

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      • Anonymous
      • v0q
      • 27 Aug 2012

      isahil, 27 Aug 2012truly samsung did very wrong...!!!so true

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        • Anonymous
        • v0q
        • 27 Aug 2012

        Lapax, 27 Aug 2012Consumers are the biggest losers.samsung and iphone consumers. sony and nokia consumers are winners.

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          • Marius
          • 9xA
          • 27 Aug 2012

          The very good, maybe the best word for the situation would Apple go home :)

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            • Dee
            • v}7
            • 27 Aug 2012

            Italian people should sue Apple for every piece of junks they sold for copying similarity name from their country! iphone>>>>>italy? Now,who copied who???

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              • zayit
              • f3g
              • 27 Aug 2012

              Anyone on earth can patent anything which he did not invent as long as the original inventor is not careful enough to patent it in time.Its case of being a fox on the part of a person who steals someone elses ideas and quickly runs to patent those ideas for himself.Apple did the same thing.The rectangular shape and rounded corners on cellphones had been in existance before the iphone but no one patented them,then Apple rushed to patent those shapes and punishes anyone who uses that invention which was not theirs in the first place.That's really being foxy and they are benefitting from that.

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                • Peter and Paul
                • SvB
                • 27 Aug 2012

                lucy, 27 Aug 2012Does anybody have got patent for circle or not? I am thinki... moreCongratulations ! You put a smile on my face. Very smart and very funny comment ! You are right. Instead of wasting time and money with those legal procedurea, they should spend the time and the money producing smartphones for us, the consumers to enjoy, to buy and ultimately to make them even richer !

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                  • sSs
                  • 49x
                  • 27 Aug 2012

                  mfan, 27 Aug 2012I love all Apple shiny products... buying SG S i,II,III mea... moreApple failed in 5th grade. And Samsung cheated and he passed. Shame on apple. Now he want Samsung to pay.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 3dv
                    • 27 Aug 2012

                    ARM Holdings plc

                    The company was founded as Advanced RISC Machines, ARM, a joint venture between Acorn Computers, Apple Computer (now Apple Inc.) and VLSI Technology.

                    Samsung manufactures ARM CPUs for their phones too

                    But do they have a license?

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                      • AnonD-65736
                      • nYs
                      • 27 Aug 2012

                      I do not like Apple but I think it's quite fair they won this particular trial, Samsung did quite obviously copy them on various designs and features.

                      Too many companies working on Android or any other platform still manage to make phones with clear differentiators. Samsung should be able to be the same instead of walking this fine line.

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                        • Mcy
                        • 27 Aug 2012

                        What a pathetic education system in US which make people (including the honorable Jury!) think they are buying Apple products while they are actually buying Samsung...Its a shame...No wonder companies like Apple need to lure Asians and Europeans with huge money and green cards to operate...

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                          • AnonD-25929
                          • ITJ
                          • 27 Aug 2012

                          Gavin_Is_A_Man, 27 Aug 2012And there we have the Cath 22 situation: Apple cannot simpl... moreWont be long like that my friend the reliability on each other will end :).As apple slowly but steadily wiped off google from partnerships when intially the iphone launched now is doing the same with apple bringing in sharp , lg for displays while setting up its own processing plants. In the long run bigger loss will be to samsung as its no 1 client profit wise for them is apple.

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                            • AnonD-25929
                            • ITJ
                            • 27 Aug 2012

                            lucy, 27 Aug 2012Does anybody have got patent for circle or not? I am thinki... morePatents are there so others do not steal someone else inventions , research and development.Its not only got to do with the shapes its with the softwares which they blatantly copied.If they wanted to be objective and innovative then instead of ripping of the iphone they would have come up with there own unique softwares , something different.Also Apple offered samsung to pay royalties to there patents which samsung refused. In short justice has been done and in the long run consumers will benefit instead of iphone clones popping up now samsung and others will put some serious time in research and development, so to create something different and innovative.

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                              • Gavin_Is_A_Man
                              • iIR
                              • 27 Aug 2012

                              zayit, 27 Aug 2012Aug 27 (Reuters Breakingviews) Though Samsung doesn't br... moreAnd there we have the Cath 22 situation: Apple cannot simply bin Samsung off as some of their products appear to be Samsungs in drag. Samsung cannot bin Apple off as it is relying on Apple's current popularity to sell Samsung's own hardware for a premium price. It's a bit like buying a VW Golf GTi when you could have a Skoda Octavia VRs for several thousand pounds less. They're basically the same thing, one simply costs more because of its badge.

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                                • Fuck Apple
                                • Jh{
                                • 27 Aug 2012

                                Companies like Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony, Nokia and Motorola are in telecommunication business and some of them producing mobile phones since 1981.
                                From 1981 till 2007 all these companies have produced hundreds of mobile phones models and have sold billions of units worldwide before Apple was ever thinking of producing a mobile phone in 2007.
                                In contrast Apple was not a telecommunication company like the others and had zero history or research & development put in the field of developing mobile phones.
                                So in 2007 Apple just copied all the technology they could have found in all other mobile phones, smartphones and smart devices, and with all that stolen knowledge and technology they have created the iPhone.
                                Obviously they couldn't have been innovative in any way with their first mobile phone since all the technology was stolen from others, Apple's iPhone was nothing but a copycat.
                                If you wanna see what models of mobile phones, smartphones or smart devices did Apple just copied with their iPhone just check the following list of models that were produced way before the year 2007 when the first iPhone was released:
                                - remember the Compaq iPaq models released since year 2000 upwards
                                - then the old HP iPaq models released since year 2004 upwards, running on Windows Mobile featuring touchscreen displays with hand write recognition models: HP iPAQ h6320, HP iPAQ h6325, HP iPAQ rw6818, HP iPAQ rw6815, HP iPAQ rw6828
                                - Motorola models released since year 2004: Motorola A1000, Motorola A1010, Motorola ROKR E6, all smartphones with big touchscreen displays
                                - many HTC models based on Windows Mobile started from year 2002 upwards, including the first Windows Mobile phone released to marked, here are some model examples since year 2006: HTC P3300, HTC TyTN, HTC P3600 they are all smartphones with big touchscreen displays and hand write recognition
                                - in 2004 Samsung released a Windows Mobile phone model Samsung i700, again a smartphone with big touchscreen display
                                - Nokia Comunicator series released since 1998 models: Nokia 9000 Communicator, Nokia 9210i Communicator, Nokia 7710 touchscreen display, Nokia N95 they are all smartphones with big displays
                                - model from year 2006: LG KE850 Prada again with big touchscreen display
                                - model from year 2006: Philips S900
                                - models released since 2002 from Dell Axim X5 family:
                                Dell Axim X5
                                Dell Axim x50v
                                Dell Axim X30
                                - more models released since year 2002 upwards:
                                HP iPAQ hx4700
                                HP iPAQ rx3700
                                ASUS MYPAL A730
                                O2 XDA IIs
                                O2 XDA II
                                O2 XDA II mini
                                O2 XDA mini S
                                O2 XDA IIi
                                O2 XDA Neo
                                O2 XDA Exec
                                O2 XDA mini S
                                O2 XDA Trion
                                O2 XDA Orbit
                                Qtek S100
                                Qtek S110
                                Qtek 2020i
                                Qtek S200
                                Qtek 9000
                                Qtek 9090
                                Qtek 9100
                                Qtek 2020
                                Qtek 9600
                                Dopod 686
                                Dopod 818
                                Dopod 828
                                Dopod 818 Pro
                                Dopod 838
                                Dopod 838 Pro
                                Dopod D810/CHT 9100
                                Dopod D600
                                Dopod P860
                                i-mate JAM
                                i-mate JAMin
                                i-mate JASJAM
                                i-mate PDA2k
                                i-mate PDA2
                                i-mate K-JAM
                                i-mate Pocket PC
                                - all these smartphones models are made by HTC:
                                released in year 2004:
                                Orange SPV M500
                                T-Mobile MDA Compact
                                - released in year 2005:
                                Vodafone VPA Compact
                                Orange SPV M600
                                T-Mobile MDA Compact II
                                - released in year 2006:
                                Vodafone VPA Compact GPS
                                Orange SPV M650
                                Orange SPV M700
                                Orange SPV M3100
                                T-Mobile MDA Compact III
                                T-Mobile Wing
                                Cingular 8525

                                For the ignorants just check the above mentioned models to see how much iPhone resembles them in look and functionality.
                                http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_pocketpc_smartphone.php3

                                Guys just keep in mind that there are many Apple employes which post pro Apple comments on sites like these trying to deceive people like you, they are among the biggest deceivers.
                                If you wanna know who is the biggest deceiver just read the Bible and you'll find that Satan is.
                                Ironically this doesn't seem to be the first time when Satan is using an Apple trying to deceive humanity.

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                                  • Gavin_Is_A_Man
                                  • iIR
                                  • 27 Aug 2012

                                  So how do Samsung bounce back from this? Obviously they will, they're the dominant manufacturer and Android is the dominant smartphone OS for good reasons, though I think they should concentrate more on consolidating what they've got: offering ICS and JB on more of their existing models in a timely manner would be a good start.

                                  The Galaxy line-up is generally (in my experience) better equipped, more reliable and vastly better value for money than the iPhone. Galaxies are at least one generation ahead at present (a situation that will continue for as long as Apple release one new phone every 2 years). Samsung should make it easier to customise their phones, that's a real issue for me. So all they really need to do is improve ease of customisation, their update schedule and generally make their phones easier to use.

                                  Really Google are the ones under pressure: they should concentrate on making Android easier to pick up and use, as this is one major reason why a lot of my customers prefer Apple. It's easier for even the thickest or oldest user to get used to. If Android was easier to use, I think Apple would be finished in the UK; we already get nothing but complaints about its cost and reliability.

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                                    • mfan
                                    • uSg
                                    • 27 Aug 2012

                                    I love all Apple shiny products... buying SG S i,II,III mean you buy the copycat products...No Samsung but think about NOK, LG is waiting for you and more advantage.

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                                      • zayit
                                      • f3g
                                      • 27 Aug 2012

                                      Aug 27 (Reuters Breakingviews)

                                      Though Samsung doesn't break down sales, court filings suggest the United States only accounts for about 4 percent of its global smartphone revenue. Even if the damages in the court case treble and Samsung can't sell another phone in the United States for a year - the time the company would need to design and release new non-patent infringing models - the financial hit would at most be about $4.2 billion. That's roughly what Samsung earns from smartphones and other mobile devices in just three months.

                                      Samsung and Apple have a love-hate relationship. Though they compete in smartphones and tablets, Samsung is also key supplier of chips and screens to Apple. Arguably, Apple needs Samsung more than vice versa. About 25 percent of every iPhone is Samsung-made, while Apple accounts for only about 5 percent of Samsung's total revenue

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                                        • European
                                        • S0I
                                        • 27 Aug 2012

                                        It is very well known and easily seen that Samsung tried thievery to beat Apple and Nokia. All most popular devices tightly resemble & almost match the design of Apple and Nokia not to mention the software patents. They are good copy-makers however lack the innovative approach that Apple has always had. I think it is for the greater good that this verdict took place because it would make Samsung people to hire somebody who can actually DESIGN something and not just copy icons, colors, silver linings, shapes, etc...

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