Samsung Galaxy S22 and S22+ to have 50MP main cam, proper telephoto lens
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
SigmaR, 23 Jun 2021All cameras have the same sensor size? What does it mean? All are full frame cameras.
This means that larger pixel is better at night is myth.
Current tech has solved this issue years ago.
The camera with near 8 micron pixels got saturated by light before other that have pixels of 5,6 micron or smaller. One of them has 3,75 micron.
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- 23 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2021Where would Samsung find space inside the phone to have all... moreActually the camera parts can be hotter than CPU.
But they do keep the distance most of the time.
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- XSy
- 23 Jun 2021
What's wrong with you guys !!
It's not going to happen.
Samsung will use a new sensor. Probably 1/1.1" 144MP Nona Bayer sensor. which will be able to do 16-1 binning for extremely low light 9 or 8MP image and up to 4k videos.
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- 23 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2021Just little curiosity. For those that still believe pixel ... moreAll cameras have the same sensor size? What does it mean?
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 23 Jun 2021The pixel size still matters a lot on sensors smaller than ... moreYes, tell that to Google and Apple that used to have 1,55 micron and now use 1,4.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
walkman8, 23 Jun 2021It's about time!
And I really hope S22 Ultra follows ... moreWhere would Samsung find space inside the phone to have all this?
If you have not noticed, phones with periscope that uses more than 5x the FL of main camera have small sensors to keep whole system small.
There is no way any phone comes with 240mm periscope and 1/2", 1/1.8" or 1/1.5" sensor.
Also, OEMs need to have space to keep cpu away from cameras to avoid the heat that can damage the cmos.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
walkman8, 23 Jun 2021It's about time!
And I really hope S22 Ultra follows ... moreI doubt S22 Ultra is gonna use this 50MP.
Samsung Semicon is working on 1" sensors with 200, 300 and 600MP.
Also many WRGB sensors (108MP with 82MP of them as "white" pixels).
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- walkman8
- 3q5
- 23 Jun 2021
It's about time!
And I really hope S22 Ultra follows the same footsteps.
Sensor size and quality over mp race.
Why should it have 200 MP sensor? Because it sounds "Ultra"?
For Pete's sake, Mi 11 Ultra has a 50 mp sensor and nobody dares to call it "Vanilla".
If I had any saying in creating S22 Ultra's camera, this would be my ideal configuration:
1)50 MP main GN3 sensor (same size as MI11 Ultra, but improved) with perfectly usable full 50 MP photos
2)50 MP ultrawide from One Plus 9 Pro that also acts as macro unit
3)50 MP periscope with variable optical zoom (2x-5x or 3x-10x)
4)same 40 mp selfie cam, just positioned on the side (less intrusive)
All cameras (except) selfie capable of video recording @8k 30 fps & 4k 120 fps
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- Nick Tegrataker
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- 23 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2021Just little curiosity. For those that still believe pixel ... moreThe pixel size still matters a lot on sensors smaller than 1 inch.
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- 23 Jun 2021
IMHO Ultrawide should have more than 12 MP, for such a large scene taken on ultrawide there are no enough details, I hope they add at least macro
I was expecting 3x for S22 and 5x optical zoom on S22+
Maybe S23 :-)
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- Anonymous
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- 23 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2021Just little curiosity. For those that still believe pixel ... moreYour data (withouth any source, eventough) simply shows one side of the story. There are many other reasons why low megapixels is far better than high megapixels on smartphones.
The low light image quality is far better than concescions due to the limitations of bright light scenes : someone will more probably notice the low image quality in low light than the limited bright light the camera can handle.
Due to the low megapixels count, well the speed at wich the sensor can be read is far higher, thus enabling features as better HDR which will be better on low megapixel cameras (yes, imaging DSP are faster and faster every year, but this is a fact).
Finally, colors will be better because there is less noise due to high megapixel count.
To sum up, high megapixel count is not as bad (the first high megapixel camera that was out was the Nokia 808, in... 2012 I think and its image quality is still on par with recent cameras, it even had an ND filter for bright scenes) but it must be well made.
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
Just little curiosity. For those that still believe pixel size matter in 2021.
This data shows single pixel saturation by light. All cameras have same sensor size.
Higher value means pixel can grab more light before it reaches its limits.
This list shows that, among the 5 cameras with better values, only two have less than 40MP (both are 24MP).
While the weakest of this list , is the one with 12MP.
SL2-S : 2780e-/um2
A7R3 : 2670e-/um2
A9M2 : 2660e-/um2
S1R: 2560e-/um2
A7R4 : 2540e- / UM2
EOSR5 : 2270e- / UM2
EOSR: 2200e- / UM2
A7S3 : 2120e- / UM2
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- Anonymous
- JT5
- 23 Jun 2021
Should be bayer.
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- 0VP
- 23 Jun 2021
Afther almost two years of using Huawei devices (P10,20,30 and 40) i buy (change P40 for S21) S21 wich Exsynos 2100 chip because in my country SD chips are not available in Samsung devices.
Yes, phone is fast BUT!
Battery life is garbage compare to Huawei.
Charging speed is JOKE!
Camera is GARBAGE compare to last two my phones P30 and P40!
Phone is too HOT when i taking photos using Stock or Gcam mod.
Front camera is worst front camera i ever find on any phone!
S21+ is the same story.
Great looking phone, good software, good dimensions, and that is it.
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- 80i
- 23 Jun 2021
They should stop fooling people with their rubbish Exynos first.
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- Anonymous
- mH4
- 23 Jun 2021
960, 23 Jun 2021Little difference between S10 in fact. That is, aside from ... moreThanks. I'm glad it's not just me. Funny you should mention the s10. I have a friend who bought the S10 Plus just after it came out and I cannot recommend they upgrade any time soon. An under display camera and significantly faster charging, along with an Arm V9 processor would have persuaded me but now the under display isn't coming and most likely no faster charging either forget it!
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- 23 Jun 2021
actually, digital zoom with a hi-res cam is better than an optical 3x lens because, you will have lossless zoom up to 3x. in optical lens,you have to stick with digital zoom of 12MP main cam up to 3x. I see the lossless zoom benefit in s21. if they will use a 75-80mm lens for zooming in s22, they need to provide lossless digital zoom with the hi-res main cam, too.
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- rvc
- 23 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2021Am I alone in thinking that if you remove the camera differ... moreLittle difference between S10 in fact. That is, aside from all the downgrades, like 1440p to 1080p display, loss of headphone jack and heart rate sensor, and loss of glass back. Samsung really fell from making brilliant phones to garbage in less than 2 years.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 Jun 2021
Sounds good.